start of goth v current goth

when i was a lad siouxsie,cure,bauhaus,coc's,killing joke,bunnymen,joy division were all bloody great and have now been considered the start of goth. now modern day goth music is like fooking 'death metal'.its changed!!,so for fucks sake stop getting the two era's confused will you,or i'll give you a thick ear.alright thats all i wanted to say...does that count as a blog or whatever? banshee@atalatepissup.com

and don't forget that first New Order album...goth as they come, even if those around here would be loath to admit it.

Indeed*!*

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: and don't forget that first New Order album...goth as they come, even if those around here would be loath to admit it.

Indeed*!*

ahhhhhhhh pope,pixies,they are surely goth.get to bed you gothic pope

actually i am playing editors and they sound a bit goth like

banshee wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: and don't forget that first New Order album...goth as they come, even if those around here would be loath to admit it.

Indeed*!*

actually i am playing editors and they sound a bit goth like

I always thought they sounded a bit crap...but what's the difference?

Bob just got fatter

I never considered myself as a goth.

Once I went to a club where they played old tunes you are speaking about. A real delight. Then I went there another time. They played current music for the same audience. It was boring, without soul, only the sounds, the voices - no spirit.

Well after saying that, I remember a genre called coldwave. Did you not use this word in England? That's it. Never considered myself as a goth, but a coldwave fan, no problem with it.

Sisters Of Mercy were the only one i was big on.Then came shit like Balaam And The Angel , Rose Of Avalanche

What the fuck are you lot talking about

Why don't you all piss off to the churchyard and swap eyeliner tips over a plastic bottle of warm cider

My second favorite artist of all-time:

THE CULT (Gothic Rock)

Indeed*!*

banshee wrote: when i was a lad siouxsie,cure,bauhaus,coc's,killing joke,bunnymen,joy division were all bloody great and have now been considered the start of goth. now modern day goth music is like fooking 'death metal'.its changed!!,so for fucks sake stop getting the two era's confused will you,or i'll give you a thick ear.alright thats all i wanted to say...does that count as a blog or whatever? banshee@atalatepissup.com

If your point is that start of goth is better than current goth, I'll agree with you there. Is the new stuff even still called goth? Can someone name me some new goth bands?

LeggyD wrote: a plastic bottle of warm cider

you say that like it's a bad thing.

anyone watch that weird show with Rocco and Dawn buying a pad in Spain. mad it is. his nose is fuckin huge. and he wears gigs that make his eyes look massive too. he was in flesh for Lulu. she's a canadian bimbo. are they goths??

btw Bansh...Killing Joke were Punks.

listen to their Revelations album. its a dead giveaway. KJ goths??.

King John Honest John wrote: btw Bansh...Killing Joke were Punks.

listen to their Revelations album. its a dead giveaway. KJ goths??.

Most of the bands Banshee is talking about have never been goths, really. Two options :

1. Current goth bands claim that they had been influenced by the bands we never considered as goth.
2. It is a journalist error. A 40 years old journalist would say that KJ has always been a punk band when a 20 years old journalist may think that, indeed, KJ and others were goth bands.

Anyway, in my opinion, bands like Sisters of Mercy, Cult, Mission and so on were goth bands... I do not know anything about current goth which does not sound like the older bands to my ears. The only thing which seems to remain goth are the overalls and the haircuts...

What i was trying to point out was that all these youngsters called 'goths',tend to like modern death/heavy rock type stuff.siouxsie and the banshees,cure,joy division etc.dont sound anything like that so are NOT goth

It seems to me that new goth is only about shock value. Something that states a love for the morbid and death, which is what original goth was never about. Its become some sort of in-yer-face rebeliousness.... any time I hear this new music (or see the morons included with it) I think of the Cake lyrics from "rock& roll lifestyle":

Excess ain't rebellion.You're drinking what they're selling.Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them.Your chaos won't convert them.They're so happy to rebuild it.You'll never really kill it.Yeah, excess ain't rebellion

banshee wrote: What i was trying to point out was that all these youngsters called 'goths',tend to like modern death/heavy rock type stuff.siouxsie and the banshees,cure,joy division etc.dont sound anything like that so are NOT goth

i know what you're sayin. like these murderdolls crew.