Depakote

Never take this fuckingshit unless you want to die.I'm pissed cos I started having worse side effects after starting this in february, justnow in feck allnovember.

question: is it just me or does the crackheadsin thepharmaceuticals industry not realize that an anti convulsant does not treat manic depression very well? NO> cos they make money and theydont give a shit.They could careless if you have PERMANENT FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGE FROM THIS TRASH.

if i am still alive in a few days, someones gonna get an ass beating with a made in china, leadpaint covered blunt toy.

get the b.s. of well theres ceretain things in depakote that treatmanic depression. HOW CAN THAT BE IF NO ONE KNOWS THE MECHANIUSM OF ACTION OF the DAMNED DRUG.they dont know how it treats epilepsy ,bastards!:mad4:

much better now.

As with any meds that are giving you bad side effects, see your doctor and insist on a different prescription.

Yeah thats the thing I have a doctor who doesnt give a shit as well as the lady who handles on the side. Ive pretty much decided theres nothing in the form of a drug that will help so I have to conform to a strict diet and so on. Ive been through nearly 20 ceuticals,nonehave helped,and have caused moreharm than good.

Sounds like you need a second opinion. There must be other doctors even if you have to travel a little/a lot further, but this is your life we are talking about.

Animadversion wrote: Never take this fuckingshit unless you want to die.I'm pissed cos I started having worse side effects after starting this in february, justnow in feck allnovember.

question: is it just me or does the crackheadsin thepharmaceuticals industry not realize that an anticonvulsant does not treat manic depression very well? NO> cos they make money and theydont give a shit.They could careless if you have PERMANENT FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGE FROM THIS TRASH.

if i am still alive in a few days, someones gonna get an ass beating with a made in china, leadpaint covered blunt toy.

get the b.s. of well theres ceretain things in depakote that treatmanic depression. HOW CAN THAT BE IF NO ONE KNOWS THE MECHANIUSM OF ACTION OF the DAMNED DRUG.they dont know how it treats epilepsy ,bastards!:mad4:

Depakote? Must be it's American proprietary name. Do you know it's generic name? (It's chemical name)?

I know you say it's used as an anticonvulsant, but a lot of drugs/chemicals have more than one effect/use.

(Like Valium; it can be used for anxiety, insomnia, and migraine, to lessen alcohol withdrawal, as a sedative, a pain killer, for the spasm of tetanus and poisoning and even as a treatment for asthma).

There's no doubt that the pharmaceutical companies are ONLY concerned with making a profit and not effective drugs.

You say your worried about the mechanism as well, but what does it matter as long as it's effective? The only thing that makes a drug worthwhile is it's efficacy: does it work or does it not?

You've got to mind that it can (sometimes) also take several weeks (or even months) before the chemical/s build up in your system, and the drugs can begin to have an appreciable effect.

I've had to take drugs on a daily basis for the last 38 years, and I've no doubt that without them I'd have shuffled of this mortal coil long ago, in fact I would never even have reached my teens without them.

Of course I've had to learn to live with the side effects, while trying no to worry too much about ones I've not developed yet: like heart trouble, kidney failure, strokes etc (according to the warning leaflet/s).

Hope things work out for you, but if your not happy with you Doctor/treatment, as Ron says...

NOOLigan wrote: There must be other doctors...
...this is your life we are talking about.

I'm coming to the end of my time on Roaccutane , it should have been 4 months but was extended for another 2 because A. It hadn't quite finished the job and B. I have the liver of a blue whale, apparently most of my readings (choleserol, triglycerides and various other fats and sugars are checked, to make sure liver function is not impaired to the point where it's basic housekeeping is suffering), got better not worse Here's the really odd thing....... I've been working while on them, but while on a week's holiday spent on the sofa, things started to clear up really well, and within a day or two of returning to work, got worse again. So I asked to go on reduced hours until the pills are done. That was fine and now I'm only doing 2 nights a week. Since then things are getting MUCH better. BUT, not only have the effects increased, but also the side effects...... Eg. 2 hours in Asda with my mum the other day left me feeling like I used to feel after an 18 hour day doing sound and humping PA around, you know when the nervous energy leaves you and you realise all your muscles are twatted. I was a mess and had to sleep it off and could hardly walk for 2 days. Also I've started getting pill induced depression. A very strange thing, I have, as everyone has, been depressed before, but this feels qualitatively different, like no matter how low I actually feel, I can rationalise that there is no reason for it, and that gets me through it. Everything's dried up, my eyes are sore, my nose is blocked with bogies that have turned to concrete in the absence of appropriate nasal mucus, and my brething is getting bad because my lungs are not secreting enough cleaning substances. Still, 2 more weeks, just two more weeks, and with any luck my life will be normal, as it is, the condition is totally on the run, and at this stage the cure is becoming more bothersome than the disease.....but that's a good thing.

As for the drug companies and ethics.....they think ethics is a small town in Idaho. Doctors are often on what amount to commission ....prescribe 600 doses of dodgygear4000 this month and you get a golfing holiday in Florida. This is far more prevailent with "panacea" drugs, those that work on numerous things, as there is a tendancy to say "I could clock up another 10 does if I used it against $CONDITION which is might just work on cos it worked on $OTHER_CONDITION".

Actually, that is how roaccutane came to be used on my little problem....it was originally used on classic acne in severe cases....and since my thing is related to acne they gave it a go. However, there has been no dodginess in prescribing it for me. I was given gobs og info, and briefed thoroughly over several months before finally being given it, and made totally aware of everthing that could go wrong. Example...loads of suicides, although my own GP (rather than the consultant prescribing it) made the very valid point that as an antiacnoid, most people getting it were 15 year old ugly bastards with no girlfriend

Even if the condition finally fucks off, I will be a different person, forever changed. I've lost contact with mates (can't go out, cos I can neithr drink nor stand crowds), and I've been RIGHT to the brink of sanity and peered over the egde (pointing out, as my nearest and dearest did, that I live on the clifftop anyway will not garner any agument from me). If it weren't for some of the folks round here and two real world mates, I'd never have come this far.

I'm rambling, how very out of character. Soz

the last prescription i got, i didnee even bother gettin the medicine. hassle. got better nyway.

Its not just the side effects, its when the drugs themselves cause you to end up in the hospital because of them causing new symptoms.I've pretty much learned how to control the problems and deal with what comes my way.Biggest obstacle yet-cutting out dairy from my eating habits. All that animal matter,gluten,wheat and crud. Theres something to it,cos after fasting and testing which foods trigger shit.Thats what I came up with.Since all these bastard ceuticals have ran through my system and screwed things up....

Depakote is divalproex sodium.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I used to take the shit...big pink pills...

then I figured what the fuck...convulsions are fun!

Sorry guys..I should'nt laugh,sorry.Blame Jeff.

Animadversion wrote: Never take this fuckingshit unless you want to die.I'm pissed cos I started having worse side effects after starting this in february, justnow in feck allnovember.

question: is it just me or does the crackheadsin thepharmaceuticals industry not realize that an anti convulsant does not treat manic depression very well? NO> cos they make money and theydont give a shit.They could careless if you have PERMANENT FUCKING BRAIN DAMAGE FROM THIS TRASH.

if i am still alive in a few days, someones gonna get an ass beating with a made in china, leadpaint covered blunt toy.

get the b.s. of well theres ceretain things in depakote that treatmanic depression. HOW CAN THAT BE IF NO ONE KNOWS THE MECHANIUSM OF ACTION OF the DAMNED DRUG.they dont know how it treats epilepsy ,bastards!:mad4:

Send me over some, and i'll snort them