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NO Regret wrote: Hooky is so inspiring I nearly bought a New Order record. Unfortunately I didnt have the money and continued to listen to the genius of Erasure and Modern Romance.

If I was to buy my first New Order record (or CDs as they call them now) what would anyone recommend? World or Raise The Pressure?

I suggest gettting their Sam's Town album first, definately a classic!

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i love keyboards and pianos. been playing since i was 11, but not classically trained. not really have a fav keyboardist. but i like new order's songs cos they are fairly quick to pick up on and learn.

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EdelBrock wrote:

NO Regret wrote: Hooky is so inspiring I nearly bought a New Order record. Unfortunately I didnt have the money and continued to listen to the genius of Erasure and Modern Romance.

If I was to buy my first New Order record (or CDs as they call them now) what would anyone recommend? World or Raise The Pressure?

I suggest gettting their Sam's Town album first, definately a classic!

Quality:abovelol: The Killers have been a great tribute act

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Doctor? wrote: Could never figure out if he had B E on top or C F (for the sake of keeping the whole thing in fourths).

I'm willing to bet money it's EADGBE - watch how he plays the opening riff of Dreams Never End.

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So far I have been disappointed with my zoom b1 and had more success with my brothers zoom 607. Seems easier to get the balance of warmth and crunch.

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Ive bought a cheapo bass, I am looking for a practice / ebay bargain amp. Are there any recommended on line or written tutorials??? I am left handed if that needs to be borne in mind?

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Being left handed makes no difference to the amp you use.

Go for something cheap and solid. Check out some on Google - the cheap range are all pretty similar. What tends to make the difference on a practice amp is the weight/build, especially for bass. If it's good and solid, it generally won't rattle around and you'll get a better sound. No matter what anyone says about tone, response, etc. you won't notice the difference on a cheap practice amp.

Tutorials won't matter either - you (no joke) just need to look at the bass tabs upside down - their 'top' or 'E' string will be your 'G' and vice-versa... Oh, and in that case, read the tabs from the bottom of the page, right to left...

Bloody left-handers! :laugh:

:beer:

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:abovelol: The leftyness was a referance to the tutorial Chris, I realise that my awkward handedness didnt matter in terms of the amp:laugh:

I will search out a book or dvd to get me started, I just wondered if the tutorial needed to be for a lefty?

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Not sure you'll find 'How To Learn bass When You're A Lefty'

When you listen to a tune, can you pick out the bass part in your head?

I learned to read music when I was five years old, and had forgotten by the time I was ten.

All the instruments I can now play, I learned simply by copying what I heard - maybe that would be your best bet.

Try 'Transmission' - it's a good one to get you picking the strings in time and at regular intervals. There's not alot to it really. :thumb:

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dt4 wrote: Ive bought a cheapo bass

Nice one

Have you tried playing it yet?

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Chase, I'm pretty sure leadfoot's info can be considered to be of an equine oral nature (even if, as a drummer, "tuning" to him, means fucking about with the floor tom until it rattles something on (preferably, IN) every other shell :lol: ).

Other thoughts......

Southpaw bass=normal bass+3mins+(1xhand drill)+(1xscrewdriver). In fact, since most strap nubbins are fitted with self tapping screws, you can usually omit the drill, you just poke a hole 5mm deep with something, and start screwing. Obviously, swapping the strap nubbin works best on symetrical-ish basses, doing it on some freak thing with a huge top horn and a near cutaway at the bottom is going to knacker the balance of the thing. However, necks are not generally profiled accross-ways, so work both ways up. Saddle heights need adjusting too, BUT, you can just swap them around (take the one from the 1st string, put it where the 4th was, and vice-versa), this is a good plan since it negates having to try and set the string radius....which is a bitch, 22 years behind a bass, and I still make a hog's fanny of it mostly. Why am I suggesting all this surgery?

  1. You'll find a lovely bass, that doesn't some in "sinister handed".
  2. You know dick until you've been elbow deep in your bass's inerds :nod:

Praccy amps, are, quite honestly, horrid things. Avoid like the proverbial, seriously. By all means, buy a low-wattage amp, but if the words "practice amp" appear within 4 feet, think "wasp in a cereal packet" and walk away.

If not hitting the higher end of the ricther scale is an issue, just buy some nice heaphones, and a nice long minijack to 2xphono cable to connect your PC to your Hi-Fi, and a semi-decent soundcard (anything with full size 1/4" sockets (in which case, sod the minijack lead), the low end M-audio delta's for instance, quite reasonable on ebay), then beg/borrow/steal/buy Native instruments Guitar Rig. Problem, 100% solved, minimal cost, and guitar rig even comes with a hooky preset (well, it's like a goth-shit guitar preset really, but kill the 'verb and delay, and bung a bass through it and yer onto a winner).

This post has been brought to you by the fact that the usual suspects are not being all that funny, nor indeed prolific, so I've had to post something that might be useful instead of talking about anal prolapses. I feel ashamed.

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cheers Doc, I understood about 10% of that at the first reading, I will keep coming back to it:thumb: I am on the look out for a "decent" amp, deffo not one that has practice in its description.

Chris Nash wrote: Not sure you'll find 'How To Learn bass When You're A Lefty'

When you listen to a tune, can you pick out the bass part in your head?

I learned to read music when I was five years old, and had forgotten by the time I was ten.

All the instruments I can now play, I learned simply by copying what I heard - maybe that would be your best bet.

Try 'Transmission' - it's a good one to get you picking the strings in time and at regular intervals. There's not alot to it really. :thumb:

I can hear the bass parts fine and can assimilate that into hand action, the next step is to work out what shape my right hand needs to take to produce the noises in my head:thumb:

Rev Big wrote:

dt4 wrote: Ive bought a cheapo bass

Nice one

Have you tried playing it yet?

I have picked it up a few times and cant understand why my ability doesnt match my enthusiasm.

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Well you have to start somewhere, so I dived into PC & L Had a go at Age of consent and Leave me alone. Both efforts bare a passing resemblance, close but no cigar.

I need some tuition I think to show me the basic chords etc.... Looking for boks and dvd's now.

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