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Gosh where to start?
Who are the men in blue and why do they appear to be pushing the Met around? There's been quite a few stories about them fighting with the Police and one another)
How much MONEY was spent on policing this event?
Why wouldn't Gordy Brown touch the torch? (Clue, he said on the radio earlier that only athletes would be carrying it. Err, athletes like Blue Peter presenters?)
What's the betting the French manage to get the flame out?
Where's it going next?
Dozens of Police officers in their big fluorescent jackets huffing and puffing as they try to keep up with the torch carrier 
The French are spot on.... throw water on the Olympic torch, and China will let Tibet do what it wants... if only we figured that out earlier; all of the world's issues could have been solved
EdelBrock wrote: The French are spot on.... throw water on the Olympic torch, and China will let Tibet do what it wants... if only we figured that out earlier; all of the world's issues could have been solved
Isn't it called taking a moral stance, something your lot pretended to do over Iraq so you could nick their oil?
Let's everybody eat the frogs&snails, seems it has a very good influence on men behaviour
well done Frenchmen.
James Thomas wrote:
EdelBrock wrote: The French are spot on.... throw water on the Olympic torch, and China will let Tibet do what it wants... if only we figured that out earlier; all of the world's issues could have been solved
Isn't it called taking a moral stance, something your lot pretended to do over Iraq so you could nick their oil?
Attack the torch bearer, yeah that's a real moral stance there
Well who would you attack? The Chinese Government?
Done a great job of bringing the Tibet to the minds of Westerners.
It won't do any good, but at least it's a laugh to watch this po-faced procession get so wonderfully disrupted in favour of something real.
It's quite funny, but a shame really because the Olympics is such an amazing sporting event. It's right that these protests should try and disrupt this torch carrying bollocks, because if you're gonna protest about something what better platform in which to do so! It's just a shame that it's taken this long to get people to notice and to get the media interested.
We all know the UK won't rock the boat because London has the Olympics in 2012, so any moral stand is right out the window.
And let us be honest about this - the real problem is that China should never have been awarded the Olympics in the first place by the Olympic Governing Body - another backward institution full of pricks.
She's right you know.
This flame parade is intended, in part, to be a demonstration in favour of China and their holding of the games. It's absolutely necessary for anyone with a counter opinion to demonstrate at this event, and to disrupt the event of they feel like it.
Quite a few of the people participating in the event have voiced concerns over Tibet. Connie the Blue Peter presenter was planning to wear a t-shirt with a Free Tibet message but seemed to have changed her mind by the time she took the torch. The Chinese are doing their best to suppress these statements.
Boycotting the games is not really an option for the athletes and most governments will blanch at making official statements against the Chinese. The mood of the world community is being expressed by these protesters. I think it's great.
It's freedom in action, EB. I would have thought you'd be all for that!
Biggest Thing on Two Wheels wrote: Connie the Blue Peter presenter was planning to wear a t-shirt with a Free Tibet message but seemed to have changed her mind by the time she took the torch.
You mean she shit herself out of it 
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Biggest Thing on Two Wheels wrote: She's right you know.
This flame parade is intended, in part, to be a demonstration in favour of China and their holding of the games. It's absolutely necessary for anyone with a counter opinion to demonstrate at this event, and to disrupt the event of they feel like it.
Quite a few of the people participating in the event have voiced concerns over Tibet. Connie the Blue Peter presenter was planning to wear a t-shirt with a Free Tibet message but seemed to have changed her mind by the time she took the torch. The Chinese are doing their best to suppress these statements.
Boycotting the games is not really an option for the athletes and most governments will blanch at making official statements against the Chinese. The mood of the world community is being expressed by these protesters. I think it's great.
It's freedom in action, EB. I would have thought you'd be all for that!
That's a bunch of crap and you know it. So disrupting the torch bearer can bring about world acknowledgement of what is important or more correctly, what other people think is important? If that is the case, then there wouldn't be a torch running through any country, as all have some bone to pick and demonstration to make 'awareness' with some other country.
Protesting is one thing, but attacking the runner is ok? Who draws the line, what issue is important for this to happen and which isn't? Lets have fucking riots on the streets cause everyone has some issue with the world. Hell, let's bomb train stations and crash planes into buildings, then the world will REALLY take notice.
I already was aware (and most people are, hell its all over the news) without some fucking retard attacking an innocent person carrying a torch for the Olympic games. They aren't represtenting China, they are representing the Olympics; and last time I checked it travels from place to place, not belonging to China.
Why is this board soooooooo angry towards the Olympic games, or is it just cool to be pessimistic?
It was hardly an 'attack' on the torch bearer. It's a bit hysterical to liken someone trying to grab a flaming tube off a TV presenter and nicking aircraft and driving them into buildings.
I'm not anti-Olympics at all, but there is much about the Olympics that I feel uncomfortable with. The Olympic Committee smells like a corrupt organisation to me and the selection of China to host the games is not right and places the athletes with moral dilemmas that have no place in sport.
I don't like the idea that China can impose their will on our country one bit though. The sight of those Chinese in blue tracksuits marching around our streets makes me feel uneasy, as does the shadowy information machine that seems to be hovering around, cancelling an event in Paris because they don't like the banner on City Hall - bugger that.
The Olympics is being seen by China as a way to improve their reputation around the world, after years of damaging reports of their domestic human rights record, Tianneman Square and Tibet. It's quite correct for people to disrupt these atttempts to gloss over these issues with a flashy promotional campaign for a bit of running.
EdelBrock wrote:
Biggest Thing on Two Wheels wrote: She's right you know.
This flame parade is intended, in part, to be a demonstration in favour of China and their holding of the games. It's absolutely necessary for anyone with a counter opinion to demonstrate at this event, and to disrupt the event of they feel like it.
Quite a few of the people participating in the event have voiced concerns over Tibet. Connie the Blue Peter presenter was planning to wear a t-shirt with a Free Tibet message but seemed to have changed her mind by the time she took the torch. The Chinese are doing their best to suppress these statements.
Boycotting the games is not really an option for the athletes and most governments will blanch at making official statements against the Chinese. The mood of the world community is being expressed by these protesters. I think it's great.
It's freedom in action, EB. I would have thought you'd be all for that!
That's a bunch of crap and you know it. So disrupting the torch bearer can bring about world acknowledgement of what is important or more correctly, what other people think is important? If that is the case, then there wouldn't be a torch running through any country, as all have some bone to pick and demonstration to make 'awareness' with some other country.
Protesting is one thing, but attacking the runner is ok? Who draws the line, what issue is important for this to happen and which isn't? Lets have fucking riots on the streets cause everyone has some issue with the world. Hell, let's bomb train stations and crash planes into buildings, then the world will REALLY take notice.
I already was aware (and most people are, hell its all over the news) without some fucking retard attacking an innocent person carrying a torch for the Olympic games. They aren't represtenting China, they are representing the Olympics; and last time I checked it travels from place to place, not belonging to China.
Why is this board soooooooo angry towards the Olympic games, or is it just cool to be pessimistic?
Mate,
There is a massive difference between flying a plane into a building or bombing tubes and killing people for a 'cause' then trying to demonstrate against a country that has been allowed to cause the most horrific acts of human abuse on a once spiritual and peacful country. I don't think attacking the individual carrying the torch is the pupose here, is it? Or to cause actual harm to another human being - unless you get some wayward div who thinks that taking it to that level is ok, but then that's an altogether different thing. It's to get that flame and put it out. It's a symbol of the Olympic games which is a great/ amazing sporting event - that I don't think anyone is denying. But with China hosting, considering the political status in Tibet, how can anyone justify the Olympics being held there?
But China have the Olympics - a great sporting event is to be held in a country that for reasons stated above, is being allowed to host such an event that is meant to bring some kind of unity to the wrold - if only for a month. There has to be something very wrong there, where Chinese rule surpresses another country, and not least in the decision by those responsible in the Olympic Board to allow this to happen, when China is the cause of such pain and suffering through disgusting rule in Tibet.
Of course there are many issues and problems in many countries and any of those can be justified in thinking that they can demonstarte this - the point being here my friend is that the reason this demonstation is taking place here and now and because of the Olympics, is because it's all related in some way - China, Olympics, Tibet, the idea of world unity and peace. So it's an obvious reasoning that this will be the way those demonstrating will try and get noticed.
I'd have had the balls to wear the 'Free Tibet' t-shirt though.
While I completely agree that I don't like the power China has... and that it's growing at an exponential rate... and I agree that the Olympic committee does seem very corrupt... but that is no excuse for the attack upon the torch bearer (and yes it was an attack, they put their hands on her in a forceful manner).
The Olympics are a time for countries to put their differences aside and compete in athletics. Such competitions can help heal relations. Including China in the Olympics is only going to help situations. Shunning them and alienating them will only cause them to go towards thier own direction with more vigor.
It is not a far cry to bombing and piloting into structures... all three are done by a small group of individuals trying to force thier thoughts upon others by shock-news attacking symbols and not the actual issue they have; the only difference is the degree to which they are done. One leads to the other. Each person wants to top the last to keep the news shocking.
Demonstrating the Chinese Embassy, or not purchasing Chinese goods, etc. is a more direct and proper demonstration against China. But this act was complete idiocy.
EdelBrock wrote: (and yes it was an attack, they put their hands on her in a forceful manner).
It is not a far cry to bombing and piloting into structures...
I'm just nipping out to find a plane and some bombs there was a doorman who got uppity with me at the pub last week
Minx wrote:
EdelBrock wrote: (and yes it was an attack, they put their hands on her in a forceful manner).
It is not a far cry to bombing and piloting into structures...
I'm just nipping out to find a plane and some bombs there was a doorman who got uppity with me at the pub last week
That would be PETER PARKERs mate....CHINAMAN
I guess you can compare this to when the olympics were in nazi germany. Good thing not everybody kept quiet.
Calm down !!! Where have you seen the French defend a stance ?
Throw water on the flame was the only thing we could do to get a second of attention during these games. Well, tonight, we are number 1, the competition is not over, but still gold medails is virtually ours at the moment...
To take the first place :
But there is something we are already very pround of : we did better than the English !!!
Minx wrote:
EdelBrock wrote: (and yes it was an attack, they put their hands on her in a forceful manner).
It is not a far cry to bombing and piloting into structures...
I'm just nipping out to find a plane and some bombs there was a doorman who got uppity with me at the pub last week
What a splendid, well thought out argument.
Jiphy wrote: Calm down !!! Where have you seen the French defend a stance ?
Throw water on the flame was the only thing we could do to get a second of attention during these games. Well, tonight, we are number 1, the competition is not over, but still gold medails is virtually ours at the moment...
To take the first place :
- Extinguish the flame at least one time.
- Make the protocol extinguish the flame five times in one day.
- Make it travel by bus and/or police car.
But there is something we are already very pround of : we did better than the English !!!
WEE-you taking the PISS.
bushwick bill wrote: I guess you can compare this to when the olympics were in nazi germany. Good thing not everybody kept quiet.
Exactly
EdelBrock wrote: Demonstrating the Chinese Embassy, or not purchasing Chinese goods, etc. is a more direct and proper demonstration against China.
Not purchasing Chinese goods means : . Go back to the age of transistors. . Walking barefoot if you have not enough money to buy "luxury" shoes. . Walking barefoot and naked if you have not enough money to... . Surely avoid to buy plenty of products made in everywhere but China because most of the components in those must be done in China...
In my opinion, this is the main reason all the countries which did not attend Moscow 80 or Los Angeles 84 will be in Peking this year. Like someone said in another thread "it is just business at the end".
