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Anyone else notice this?

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/04/16/uk\_music\_industry\_demands\_an\_ipod\_tax\_and\_the\_law\_is\_still\_an\_ass.html

UK record companies demanding a levy on mp3-players, NOT to cover illegal downloading, but as a charge for 'format shifting' i.e. people ripping their legally purchased cds.

The infuriating bit is that they have the EU on their side.

I liked the comment that said:

"We acknowledge that we have made piles of money from 'format shifting' throughout the history of recorded music and now that particular gravy train has been unceremoniously derailed. Could everyone please help us lift it back onto the tracks...? Anyone?"

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i like this:

"I sometimes think about a song I've heard, playing it silently in my head. Do I have to pay the 'brain levy'?"

this isn't going to happen though, surely? (not the brain levy, the other thing)

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Hmm desperate I see....Record companies and their lobbying groups lost the battle long ago-as soon as the first person did P2P.

The only logical idea was that an Ipod could ghave an additional $80 fee, but, downloads over the life the plaer are covered.

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We acknowledge that we have made piles of money from 'format shifting' throughout the history of recorded music and now that particular gravy train has been unceremoniously derailed. Could everyone please help us lift it back onto the tracks...? Anyone?"

says it all. :nod:

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BonoShed wrote: Hmm desperate I see....Record companies and their lobbying groups lost the battle long ago-as soon as the first person did P2P.

The only logical idea was that an Ipod could ghave an additional $80 fee, but, downloads over the life the plaer are covered.

I predict dramatically shorter player lifetimes in that event.

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

BonoShed wrote: Hmm desperate I see....Record companies and their lobbying groups lost the battle long ago-as soon as the first person did P2P.

The only logical idea was that an Ipod could ghave an additional $80 fee, but, downloads over the life the plaer are covered.

I predict dramatically shorter player lifetimes in that event.

:nod: Never :nod: you're a paranoid :nod: cynical :nod: cunt :nod:

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I used to have BOXES of cassettes when I was a kid. C90s with an album on both sides. Some albums were longer than 45 minutes long, so you'd pick the weakest track and leave it off the tape. You could buy C90 + 5 tapes too, so that you didn't have to do that.

So why the sudden outcry from the record industry? We're copying music, what's new.

Has the price of cocaine just gone up or something?

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serves them right for dropping good bands and signing shit ones:nono: :deal: :angry:

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So serious.

Sirius or its XFM equaL.
Labels not just recognizing that Bands don't need 'em as much, or if at all.

Ste. Dr? in style.

Result. CBC.ca. Doesn't always take a polished co. for success.

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Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

BonoShed wrote: Hmm desperate I see....Record companies and their lobbying groups lost the battle long ago-as soon as the first person did P2P.

The only logical idea was that an Ipod could ghave an additional $80 fee, but, downloads over the life the plaer are covered.

I predict dramatically shorter player lifetimes in that event.

True-but it was one idea. No easy way out of this for sure

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What's annoying about this is that it's the EU who are responsible for it all. Some commissioner or other has ruled that member states must either ban 'format shifting' altogether or introduce a levy like this. The UK govt, as I understand it, sensibly proposed introducing a levy of zero pence, but the record companies have objected.

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BIGINLYCRA wrote: I used to have BOXES of cassettes when I was a kid. C90s with an album on both sides. Some albums were longer than 45 minutes long, so you'd pick the weakest track and leave it off the tape. You could buy C90 + 5 tapes too, so that you didn't have to do that.

So why the sudden outcry from the record industry? We're copying music, what's new.

Has the price of cocaine just gone up or something?

You could get C90+5???? I reckon your making that up. Although I do remember C15's which were popular for storing computer games on for your Spectrum.

And on the subject of tapes...what was a "metal" tape? On your ghetto blaster you had a setting for playing either a "shite" a "chrome" or a "metal" tape. Never saw a metal tape for sale in my life....:scratch:

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GlasVegas wrote:

BIGINLYCRA wrote: I used to have BOXES of cassettes when I was a kid. C90s with an album on both sides. Some albums were longer than 45 minutes long, so you'd pick the weakest track and leave it off the tape. You could buy C90 + 5 tapes too, so that you didn't have to do that.

So why the sudden outcry from the record industry? We're copying music, what's new.

Has the price of cocaine just gone up or something?

You could get C90+5???? I reckon your making that up. Although I do remember C15's which were popular for storing computer games on for your Spectrum.

And on the subject of tapes...what was a "metal" tape? On your ghetto blaster you had a setting for playing either a "shite" a "chrome" or a "metal" tape. Never saw a metal tape for sale in my life....:scratch:

The metal tape recorded at a super high quality and didn't degrade as you listened to it like regular tapes. They were super expensive. the main downfall is that you could only record on it once. If you tried to record over it, instead you would overlap one song over the other, and they would play at the same time.

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EdelBrock wrote:

GlasVegas wrote:

And on the subject of tapes...what was a "metal" tape? On your ghetto blaster you had a setting for playing either a "shite" a "chrome" or a "metal" tape. Never saw a metal tape for sale in my life....:scratch:

The metal tape recorded at a super high quality and didn't degrade as you listened to it like regular tapes. They were super expensive. the main downfall is that you could only record on it once. If you tried to record over it, instead you would overlap one song over the other, and they would play at the same time.

You could 'blank' Metal or CR02 tapes if you blank-recorded them around 6 or 7 times. They retained a residual original recording though. As long as you recorded something at a high enough level, you could wipe the original.

In the early 80s, bands walked away from recording studios with 'Metal' cassettes to listen to before the studio tapes were sent for production/mastering. They were good quality, heavy buggers. Useless for anything except for the original recordings!

I think I may still have a couple somewhere :eek:

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