Race to be London's mayor is too close to call
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Burt Reynolds wrote:
I've just suggested to a lass, that we go for a meal in the town centre of Bromley in Kent, over the weekend. She asked me when the last time I'd been there. Apparently its a war zone of youthful exuberance and blue flashing lights on a Saturday night these days.
I have to admit I am not that familiar with war zones, but when I was out in Bromley a few Saturday nights ago it didn't feel like I imagine Baghdad to be on the weekend.
biggyonacid wrote: Ooh a lady?
A real one, or just your mate Dave in a skirt again?
PAH!
And he's had a shave as well. 
Shhhh...
Boris Johnson is London Mayor figurehead.
Tory Central Office wouldn't allow him to run London. MI5 wouldn't allow him to run London.
We now have a Tory puppet as Mayor.
Burt Reynolds wrote: OI!.. fix the thread Delilah.
And whaddya mean you were in my town?
my my my.
it's all gone a bit wierd, don't know what I did there. Too many mojitos, perhaps 
Don't worry, no plans for a return visit to the badlands of Bromley any time soon. Wrong side of London for me, anyway, don't normally stray east of Clapham
Chris Nash wrote: Boris Johnson is London Mayor figurehead.
Tory Central Office wouldn't allow him to run London. MI5 wouldn't allow him to run London.
We now have a Tory puppet as Mayor.
So a puppet, not a muppet? Or can he be both?
Of course he won't be 'running' London, but he will have licence to say stupid things (see above), embarrass the hell out of us and make us have to apologise for him whenever we travel out of the Greater London area. And probably within it too. Someone somewhere will have started producing the obligatory 'Don't blame me, I voted for Ken' badges already...
I'd move back to Wales if I could but they've all voted Tory down there as well!!!
Oh please,
so Boris might say (more than) a few stupid things. Anymore than Ken? And does it really matter?
Ultimately, Boris has been elected by the majority of people of those who bothered to go out and vote. Therefore, he deserves a chance.
If I was still a Londoner I'd vote Ken at the end of the day- Boris can be funny, but God knows what kind of shit he could cause if he gets real power.
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh please,
so Boris might say (more than) a few stupid things. Anymore than Ken? And does it really matter?
Ultimately, Boris has been elected by the majority of people of those who bothered to go out and vote. Therefore, he deserves a chance.
In the end that is what its all about. I think personally, voting Ken out is a revolt of the taxpayers in London. Especially if you look at the boroughs that voted against him. The ones that voted for him, as per usual, were the ones of high employment/council housing and he got the Muslim vote en masse, as expected.
DigitalWaters wrote: If I was still a Londoner I'd vote Ken at the end of the day- Boris can be funny, but God knows what kind of shit he could cause if he gets real power.
You know, I'm surprised that the whole of the National Press hasnt just stopped so they could get this in.
Where's your anti BNP rant anyway? They scored 2.84% of the vote in the mayoral election. And the huuuuuge (and non existent) gains they made across the country.
Uncle Liam wrote:
DigitalWaters wrote: If I was still a Londoner I'd vote Ken at the end of the day- Boris can be funny, but God knows what kind of shit he could cause if he gets real power.
You know, I'm surprised that the whole of the National Press hasnt just stopped so they could get this in.
Where's your anti BNP rant anyway? They scored 2.84% of the vote in the mayoral election. And the huuuuuge (and non existent) gains they made across the country.
I could pull an anti-BNP rant off the shelf for you if you really want one?
Who do you vote for in the locals?
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh please,
so Boris might say (more than) a few stupid things. Anymore than Ken? And does it really matter?
Ultimately, Boris has been elected by the majority of people of those who bothered to go out and vote. Therefore, he deserves a chance.
In the end that is what its all about. I think personally, voting Ken out is a revolt of the taxpayers in London. Especially if you look at the boroughs that voted against him. The ones that voted for him, as per usual, were the ones of high employment/council housing and he got the Muslim vote en masse, as expected.
Merton, where I live, has average employment, some council housing and an average Muslim population. The bastards voted for Bo Jo...
So the theory doesn't quite work.
P.S. There's no such word as 'ones'. One, by definition, is singular. *NOOLGP*
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh please,
so Boris might say (more than) a few stupid things. Anymore than Ken? And does it really matter?
Ultimately, Boris has been elected by the majority of people of those who bothered to go out and vote. Therefore, he deserves a chance.
In the end that is what its all about. I think personally, voting Ken out is a revolt of the taxpayers in London. Especially if you look at the boroughs that voted against him. The ones that voted for him, as per usual, were the ones of high employment/council housing and he got the Muslim vote en masse, as expected.
Bloris has been elected because
1- He's not Labour
And thats it. Its a protest partly at the congestion charge and partly at National government.
I should also point out that Boria recieved more votes (quite a few more actually) than Ken did in either of his election victories. The votes have bene counted, and a winner has been decalred. Suck to live in a free speaking and democratic society, I guess. 
Uncle Liam wrote: Suck to live in a free speaking and democratic society, I guess.
Especially when the BNP come a close fifth to the Green Party...
Uncle Liam wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh please,
so Boris might say (more than) a few stupid things. Anymore than Ken? And does it really matter?
Ultimately, Boris has been elected by the majority of people of those who bothered to go out and vote. Therefore, he deserves a chance.
In the end that is what its all about. I think personally, voting Ken out is a revolt of the taxpayers in London. Especially if you look at the boroughs that voted against him. The ones that voted for him, as per usual, were the ones of high employment/council housing and he got the Muslim vote en masse, as expected.
Bloris has been elected because
1- He's not Labour
And thats it. Its a protest partly at the congestion charge and partly at National government.
I should also point out that Boria recieved more votes (quite a few more actually) than Ken did in either of his election victories. The votes have bene counted, and a winner has been decalred. Suck to live in a free speaking and democratic society, I guess.
Who the hell are Bloris and Boria? Two of Boris' Eton cronies? :)
As Catatonia once sang 'Fools get votes in our democracy'
DigitalWaters wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote:
DigitalWaters wrote: If I was still a Londoner I'd vote Ken at the end of the day- Boris can be funny, but God knows what kind of shit he could cause if he gets real power.
You know, I'm surprised that the whole of the National Press hasnt just stopped so they could get this in.
Where's your anti BNP rant anyway? They scored 2.84% of the vote in the mayoral election. And the huuuuuge (and non existent) gains they made across the country.
I could pull an anti-BNP rant off the shelf for you if you really want one?
Who do you vote for in the locals?
Dont. Complete waste of time. We didnt have them yesterday anyway.
You can rant about the BNP if you want. I suppose a sick and twisted side of me would be mildly interested to see how a drop of 0.16% in vote share to less than 3% and with one London Assembly seat demonstrates the rising tide of racism across England.
There you go Londoners, you thought Boris was bad, now you've got a BNP member in the assembly. bet you're all shit scared now.
Chris Nash wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
In the end that is what its all about. I think personally, voting Ken out is a revolt of the taxpayers in London. Especially if you look at the boroughs that voted against him. The ones that voted for him, as per usual, were the ones of high employment/council housing and he got the Muslim vote en masse, as expected.
Merton, where I live, has average employment, some council housing and an average Muslim population. The bastards voted for Bo Jo...
So the theory doesn't quite work.
Seems spot on to me, although i would have Merton down as a more marginal area, knowing the place. I haven't seen the figures.
The rise of racism debate we had was about the stuff in the '90's not the 00's.
Anyway, it's really sad news if there is a BNP member of the London Assembly. Maybe some Londoner's need reminding about The Blitz and it's roots.
DigitalWaters wrote: The rise of racism debate we had was about the stuff in the '90's not the 00's.
Anyway, it's really sad news if there is a BNP member of the London Assembly. Maybe some Londoner's need reminding about The Blitz and it's roots.
Well, if its really sad news, maybe the approximately 50% of people who didnt vote probably should've done. Low turnout lets in extreme parties.
The great thing about a hybrid system is you get a direct constituency link as well as an element of proportionality. So the people of London have obviously seen something in the BNP...
Oh yeah, they havent, because of the media blanket on them.... Failing to have a proper and wide ranging debate on anything always leads to frustration, and frustration leads to protest voting, and looks whats happened!
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh yeah, they havent, because of the media blanket on them.... Failing to have a proper and wide ranging debate on anything always leads to frustration, and frustration leads to protest voting, and looks whats happened!
Eh? 
I watched a party political broadcast by them on BBC1 the other week...
Uncle Liam wrote:
DigitalWaters wrote: The rise of racism debate we had was about the stuff in the '90's not the 00's.
Anyway, it's really sad news if there is a BNP member of the London Assembly. Maybe some Londoner's need reminding about The Blitz and it's roots.
Well, if its really sad news, maybe the approximately 50% of people who didnt vote probably should've done. Low turnout lets in extreme parties.
The great thing about a hybrid system is you get a direct constituency link as well as an element of proportionality. So the people of London have obviously seen something in the BNP...
Oh yeah, they havent, because of the media blanket on them.... Failing to have a proper and wide ranging debate on anything always leads to frustration, and frustration leads to protest voting, and looks whats happened!
So are you happy that the BNP got in?
Nick King wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: Oh yeah, they havent, because of the media blanket on them.... Failing to have a proper and wide ranging debate on anything always leads to frustration, and frustration leads to protest voting, and looks whats happened!
Eh?
I watched a party political broadcast by them on BBC1 the other week...
Thats only because they are legally bound to show them.
They havent been invited to any of the debates, on BBC TV or Radio, or on Sky.
DigitalWaters wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote:
DigitalWaters wrote: The rise of racism debate we had was about the stuff in the '90's not the 00's.
Anyway, it's really sad news if there is a BNP member of the London Assembly. Maybe some Londoner's need reminding about The Blitz and it's roots.
Well, if its really sad news, maybe the approximately 50% of people who didnt vote probably should've done. Low turnout lets in extreme parties.
The great thing about a hybrid system is you get a direct constituency link as well as an element of proportionality. So the people of London have obviously seen something in the BNP...
Oh yeah, they havent, because of the media blanket on them.... Failing to have a proper and wide ranging debate on anything always leads to frustration, and frustration leads to protest voting, and looks whats happened!
So are you happy that the BNP got in?
I'm happy in the sense that it shows that the democratic will of the people is being enforced through the use of a superior electoral system than the one used for the Westminster Elections.
As for the party in question, I'm indifferent. I still dont know The London Assembly does, i know its a "toothless tiger" so I strongly doubt that that its going to make the slightest bit of different to anyone.
Uncle Liam wrote: As for the party in question, I'm indifferent.
You're "indifferent" about the BNP?
Fcuks sake, Liam...
Nick King wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: As for the party in question, I'm indifferent.
You're "indifferent" about the BNP?
Fcuks sake, Liam...
Of course I am. Its not like they're going to achieve anything while in a London Assembly seat. The other parties wont talk to them, and they dont have enough of them to cause any onstruction to any leglislation that will be passed through the assembly.
And anyway, its the democratic will of the people of London. Who am I, or indeed anyone, to criticise?
It's only one now, but one can become 2,3,4,5, etc...
How many before they do have a substantial powerbase?
I don't believe Liam, having such strong political views, is indifferent.
Be indifferent and uncritical now and very sorry in years to come.
Uncle Liam wrote:
Nick King wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: As for the party in question, I'm indifferent.
You're "indifferent" about the BNP?
Fcuks sake, Liam...
Of course I am. Its not like they're going to achieve anything while in a London Assembly seat. The other parties wont talk to them, and they dont have enough of them to cause any onstruction to any leglislation that will be passed through the assembly.
And anyway, its the democratic will of the people of London. Who am I, or indeed anyone, to criticise?
They now have 37 councillors around the country...
I'm trying to find the total amount of people who voted for them, it was a scary figure...
