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Foot mystery baffles Mounties

When two unrelated human feet washed up on the beaches of two small islands north of Vancouver in six days last August, a spokesman for the Mounties said the odds of it happening were a million to one. This week the number of feet found rose to six.

What's going on? Police in British Columbia are confounded, saying they have never seen a case like it.

The feet have all been recovered along the shorelines in the Strait of Georgia, which lies to the south and west of Vancouver.

They were all encased in trainers, and five out of the six are right feet. Police say it is not yet clear if a crime had been committed. They said they had found no evidence that the feet had been severed.

DNA has been collected from the first feet, but police say that there has been no match to anyone on their missing persons database.

The unusual nature of the case has prompted much speculation by amateurs about a possible murder mystery, links to organised crime or to the 2004 Asian tsunami.

Local origin

Experts have come up with different theories as to how far the feet could have travelled on ocean currents. There was initial speculation that they could have drifted more than 1,500 miles.

However, as the number of discovered feet goes up, experts have scaled down the distance they believe the feet have drifted.

Curtis Ebbesmeyer, a Seattle-based oceanographer who specialises in how things float on the ocean's currents has dismissed the idea that they could have come from the Asian tsunami, because the distance is just too vast.

He was quoted by AP suggesting that the feet were a result of a possible accident along the Fraser River, and that they could have washed down and spread out along the Strait of Georgia.

Dr Simon Boxall, an oceanographer from the National Oceanography Centre in Southampton in the UK, agrees that the feet are likely to have originated locally.

Why feet?

"The fact that they are being found repeatedly along the same stretch means they have to have come from roughly the same source, and that source is likely to be local," he told the BBC News website.

He added that because of the way objects are dispersed by ocean currents, it is unlikely that six feet that originated hundreds of miles away could have ended up in one relatively small area.

"If, for example, they had travelled from as far away as Hawaii, there would have to have been thousands in the first place for six to turn up in one area," he said.

In his view, it's a coincidence that most of the feet are right feet, as there is no reason why right and left feet should float in different ways.

And why is it that just feet have been found?

Mr Ebbesmeyer was quoted in the Vancouver Sun as saying that when bodies decompose, they break into 10 pieces, two arms, two legs, two feet, two hands, the head and the torso. This raises questions as to what has happened to the rest of the bodies.

Experts say that it's all to do with the running shoes. These would have helped keep the decomposing feet intact, and protect them from fish. The soles would also have helped them float, allowing them to be easily swept away from the body.

Plane crash

Police have said it is possible the feet come from the passengers aboard a small plane which crashed into the water in the region several years ago - their bodies were never recovered.

The Coroners Service of British Columbia has investigated a potential link. To date, it has failed to match DNA samples collected from members of the crash victims' families with DNA obtained from some of the mystery feet.

Dr Joseph Finley, a physical scientist and retired special agent with the FBI, told Canada's National Post newspaper that depending on the race of the victims, the feet might belong to stowaways who hid on commercial ships heading for Alaska.

Dr Boxall acknowledges that forensic scientists working to recover DNA profiles from feet could have an extremely difficult task on their hands.

Even if the remains are identified, scientists may not be able to determine how and when the victims died.

"Seawater can be horrendous," he says. "It can corrode very quickly or, bizarrely, it can preserve things quite well - it depends on how much biological activity there is at the time."

Dr Gail Anderson, a specialist in decomposition at the Simon Fraser University was quoted in the New Scientist as saying that we "know next to nothing about what happens to bodies under water."

She added that feet normally come apart from legs in water, adding that flesh immersed in water turns into adipocere tissue, a soap-like substance, that no microbes or scavengers such as crabs will eat.

It is likely the case will remain a mystery for some time. As one investigator put it this week, this is not CSI - a reference to popular fictional TV show in which challenging forensic cases are solved in no time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7463305.stm

As it happens the latest foot turned out to be a hoax - but still a strange story.

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2008/06/19/5927881.html

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Feel free to post as many awful jokes as you can think of...

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the most recent foot that washed up was a hoax.

but four right feet? suspicious....

this is serial killer central up here in the pacific northwest. ted bundy, the green river killer, robert pickton, and on and on.

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Dodjem wrote: Feel free to post as many awful jokes as you can think of...

Bet their favorite film is Footloose...

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

but four right feet? suspicious....

A cow that can dance?

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Come on Old Leadfoot, it can't have been worse than ours!!!

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Dodjem wrote: Foot mystery baffles Mounties

Why feet?

What would they have preferred exactly?

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i am the joke, or am i just miss leading???:evil4:

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Come on peeps, toe the line...

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if they bury them there will be on foot in the grave at least...

:nonono:

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Six feet under

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Maybe there's a cult of people who only rob from outside shoe shops?

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Jesus,that looks like a lifestory. Jem,you want us to read all that in one go?

Maybe tomorrow I'll wanna settle down.. Until tomorrow,i'll just keep moving on..

What's that out of then? Anyone?

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the littlest hobo

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Boatraceface wrote: Jesus,that looks like a lifestory. Jem,you want us to read all that in one go?

Maybe tomorrow I'll wanna settle down.. Until tomorrow,i'll just keep moving on..

What's that out of then? Anyone?

The Littlest Hobo of course... KWALITY

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Canadia wrote:

KWALITY

Spell properly on these boards or you will get something amputated :nono:

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Boatraceface wrote: Jesus,that looks like a lifestory. Jem,you want us to read all that in one go?

Do you have ADHD?

Read it. I will be conducting a test tomorrow.

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Dodjem wrote:

Canadia wrote:

KWALITY

Spell properly on these boards or you will get something amputated :nono:

I'd like to see you attempt that feat!

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What's this one out of then clevercloggs?

'I could jump from an open draw bridge,I could Tarzan from a vine'

Not so clever now are we?

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Could you and Nora please observe the 'Terms of use and Community standards' and quit hijacking my damn thread. Leave us wannabe comedians to our 'fun'

Thankyou.

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Dodjem wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: Jesus,that looks like a lifestory. Jem,you want us to read all that in one go?

Do you have ADHD?

Read it. I will be conducting a test tomorrow.

No,I'll level with ya,I'm a bit pissed..

Pssst.I might have some ADHD though..If not,I can get you some off this gezzer.Tenner bags.Mum's the word...:crazy:

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Canadia wrote:

Dodjem wrote: Feel free to post as many awful jokes as you can think of...

Bet their favorite film is Footloose...

That's lame :laugh:

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Boatraceface wrote: What's this one out of then clevercloggs?

'I could jump from an open draw bridge,I could Tarzan from a vine'

Not so clever now are we?

Cos I'm the un-named stuntman who made Eastwood look so fine

:thumb:

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Old Lead Foot wrote: if they bury them there will be on foot in the grave at least...

:nonono:

i don't BLOODY believe it!

:p :nonono: :crazy: :evil4: :laugh:

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I've heard Vancouver can cost you an arm and a leg..

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Is it a YEti or is it BIGfoot?:hat:

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LeggyD wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: What's this one out of then clevercloggs?

'I could jump from an open draw bridge,I could Tarzan from a vine'

Not so clever now are we?

Cos I'm the un-named stuntman who made Eastwood look so fine

:thumb:

Bingo!:thumb: Colt Ceavers aint welcome on this thread. Can you believe that?

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Boatraceface wrote:

LeggyD wrote:

Boatraceface wrote: What's this one out of then clevercloggs?

'I could jump from an open draw bridge,I could Tarzan from a vine'

Not so clever now are we?

Cos I'm the un-named stuntman who made Eastwood look so fine

:thumb:

Bingo!:thumb: Colt Ceavers aint welcome on this thread. Can you believe that?

Colt would solve the Foot mystery and have the bad guys back in the slammer in no time :nod:

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Turns out the feet have been donated to the local YMCA so that the boys can play a bit of footie...

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EdelBrock wrote: Turns out the feet have been donated to the local YMCA so that the boys can play a bit of footie...

Yes. Poor Sandras going to have to get used to this, a collection of funny posts that make a slight bit of sense in a wacky kind of way, before one of our American Brethren just comes along and sucks all the fun out of it with a nonsensical and irrelevant comment.

Another FAILURE.

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Uncle Liam wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: Turns out the feet have been donated to the local YMCA so that the boys can play a bit of footie...

Yes. Poor Sandras going to have to get used to this, a collection of funny posts that make a slight bit of sense in a wacky kind of way, before one of our American Brethren just comes along and sucks all the fun out of it with a nonsensical and irrelevant comment.

Another FAILURE.

I do my best:thumb:

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Uncle Liam wrote: a collection of funny posts that make a slight bit of sense in a wacky kind of way

Hardly on either count. Britons FAIL too.

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Liams got a point though :nod:

Why dont you's all just hop it....

:laugh:

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Gives a whole new meaning to the word 'defeated'

:nonono:

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bloodynora wrote: the littlest hobo

Ruddy KNEW you'd leap on that.

Worse than me, that's serious mate!

Got there before I could jump in with both feet anyway.

The weird bit is the feet have not been hacked off, but disarticulated.

But is it all right that there's none left?

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Uncle Liam wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: Turns out the feet have been donated to the local YMCA so that the boys can play a bit of footie...

Yes. Poor Sandras going to have to get used to this, a collection of funny posts that make a slight bit of sense in a wacky kind of way, before one of our American Brethren just comes along and sucks all the fun out of it with a nonsensical and irrelevant comment.

Another FAILURE.

Now, Liam, what did your mum teach you about mocking those less fortunate?

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The chances are if my mother taught me anything then I have done exactly the opposite.

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Following on from the Vancouver part of the thread....they're all that remain of a tour group that refused to FOOT the bill for a crappy stay....

I'll get my coat.....

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Get ours too while you're there :laugh:

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TAXI FOR NOOL:D

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Make it a coach!

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Ive been reading some of the 'jokes' on this thread,

half of them have got me stumped...:uhoh:

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Doctor? wrote:

bloodynora wrote: the littlest hobo

Ruddy KNEW you'd leap on that.

Worse than me, that's serious mate!

i know. i realised this week i might have a problem.

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Dodjem wrote: Could you and Nora please observe the 'Terms of use and Community standards' and quit hijacking my damn thread. Leave us wannabe comedians to our 'fun'

Thankyou.

i am so sorry. i feel suitably chastised. i shall come back when i have thought of an appropriately rubbish pun, and not before.

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bloodynora wrote:

Dodjem wrote: Could you and Nora please observe the 'Terms of use and Community standards' and quit hijacking my damn thread. Leave us wannabe comedians to our 'fun'

Thankyou.

i am so sorry. i feel suitably chastised. i shall come back when i have thought of an appropriately rubbish pun, and not before.

HO!

(Bo :D )

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I have a theory, they could be from the corpses of drowned sailors and maybe fish have nibbled at their ankles.

Maybe a Dover Sole or an Electric Heel.

Right, I'll stop now

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Dodjem wrote: I have a theory, they could be from the corpses of drowned sailors and maybe fish have nibbled at their ankles.

Maybe a Dover Sole or an Electric Heel.

Right, I'll stop now

Could be a halifut too

Right enough now

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Heard Vancouver is sending out ads to increase tourism, selling the place as "Come See Vancouver! The Foot-Fetish Capitol of the World!"

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have the mounties nailed anybody for it yet ?

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banshee wrote: have the mounties nailed anybody for it yet ?

You'd think they would, but they haven't pegged anyone just yet

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that reminds me, Heather whatsherface has been awfully quiet lately.

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Geri wrote: that reminds me, Heather whatsherface has been awfully quiet lately.

shes got the money so she does not have to bother us all anymore :nono:

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