The reason why BRAZIL won over Turkey.

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Originally posted by Old Blue I'm sure all our Islamic friends and visitors under the age of 18 are well impressed by that, Seb!

Oh OLD BLUE, I'm sure that our viewers under 18 have been tremendously shocked by this! I'm sure they had never seen a pair of boobs before!

God, what was I thinking...

Originally posted by Arsene Revault Glad to see race relations have got as far as Quebec...

Could you be more explicit ?

Originally posted by JORGE TEIXEIRA You have a grudge against Mister Webmaster Sir, then.Over and out!

I think you pretty well excplained what it is. This, in french, is called MALHONNÊTETÉ INTELLECTUELLE, and I guess it could be translated by "intellectual dishonesty".

I don't like that.

Originally posted by Arsene Revault > Originally posted by JORGE TEIXEIRA> Please don't make such a fuss about it!> Can't we have a laugh at the expense of muslims (or jews, or black people, or chinese people, or indians, or french people living in England... or even PORTUGUESE)?> > NOTHING... I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS "SACRED", MAN!

Not according to the Terms of Use of this site we can't. When the webmaster breaks them though, it seems it is ok.

Mr. Revault, you are a new user here OR THOUGH IT SEEMS because the way you speak give the impression that you have a long grief towards me. Strangely enough, the date you became a member coincides with the date a user named Tim Jauncey/Fred West was banned forever from this site. How strange!!!

Can you explain this?

Originally posted by Old Blue > Originally posted by JORGE TEIXEIRA> You have a grudge against Mister Webmaster Sir, then.> Over and out!

It's not about having a grudge.

It's about the Webmasters making a big fuss about "community standards" and "respect". It's about valued members of this community being told to leave.

It's about everyone then behaving, APART from one of the "Webmasters". And it stinks.

Listen man, if this is the way you're taking it, then maybe you should leave too. I wouldn't want this place to be unbearable to you.

This place will always welcome a good joke (and if a small group of people find it offensive, well EVEN BETTER! Because if people are stupid enough to be offensed by something like that, then I wish to offense these people). Applying the community standards must be done with a large interpretation, and it is not yours to judge what we want as a website.

New users should listen first and speak after.

Over and out.

This being said, I'm sure a few people from Great Britain will find this picture funny as well, but maybe there's a cultural thing that makes us latin people (from France, Portugal, Spain, Québec and South America) a lot more at ease with NUDITY.

You can never please everyone now, can you?

GMB

I will answer your question, and the answer is simple. Was it Louis IV who said "L'État, c'est moi" ? Well, basically, that's what it is: the webmasters make the website and do what they want with it. We do not need to justify our actions here. That's that.

I VERY WELL UNDERSTAND how unjust and unfair you may find this -- I know I would -- but tha's what it is at the end of the day. I said it before and I'll say it again: this is not a democracy for christ's sake! People are not voting for their webmasters and for their rules here!

Once this is said, besides the fact that you are very much pissed off at the fact that I showed the door to a certain number of people who might be your friends, which explains your reactions towards me, if you come up with a little objectivity, maybe you will not suggest that I break the community standards of this forum on a daily basis, because, of course, it is far from the truth.

And let it be known: someone who does not comply with the community standards will not get a warning automatically. This happens everyday and we don't make a fuss about it. It's the repetition, day after day, that we're going after. Quite frankly, is someone uses foul language from time to time, it won't hurt my sleep tonight. I've seen much worst in my life.

It's all contextual.

One last thing: if my message would have offended some Muslim people, I wouldn't have apologized and wouldn't have cared, because any intelligent person from this side of the world (I highly doubt that many people from Iran and Pakistan visit this website) would understand that this picture I posted was a wink -- A JOKE -- and there is no way I will surrender my freedom of speech because of a few people who might take this personally and regard this as an offense to their religion.

Besides, being dressed like these women are IS NOT PART OF THE MUSLIM RELIGION. Nowhere does the Coran forces women to dress up like this. It's a cultural thing that was developped in certain fundamentalist countries, the excuse for it IS religion, but it is rather a symbol of the supremacy of men over women in these countries. And THAT, I have no respect for that whatsoever. But if these women o not mind living their lives this way, I respect their choices.

Seeing these two women in the picture watching a football game, considering all this, is somewhat funny for us occidental people.

Oh, I almost forgot: judging from your reaction Old Blue, and from other reactions too (who, once again, seem to be only an excuse to slash me off), it seems to me that FUNDAMENTALISM is not always where you think it is, and that it even exists in the likes of the British people.

Originally posted by Kez-bah But surely if you're at ease with nudity then you wouldn't find a big pair of boobies quite so hilarious.....

E-mail me and I will try to explain the joke to you.