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What's going on?
All of the files in my Documents folder have Read only attibutes. I can de-select it and it runs through the files to change it, but the box stays clicked. I'm baffled.
I can write to any of these folders, and amend the files as I wish. The attributes seem to be interfering with an application I'm trying to run, so I need to change them.
Sorry the description is garbled. If you don't understand it, there's a fair chance you won't be able to help!
I don't understand no
My latest PC query is why won't my AVG 8.0 update automatically now? I have to do it manually:\ohwell:
I've had a computer since I was about 20 (a long time) and I've just found out there are other things than t'internet and Word.
So I'm no help at all.
I do know that Vista is shit though. Triple ITK fact.
On a more positive note, this Firefox 3 is well fast.Hadn't realised how slow Firefox 2 had become.
My guess is that you are talking about files on an external harddrive that was formatted by XP that you are trying to use on Vista?
I know this has created issues with me. The problem is that XP security measures are different than Vista, as Administrator in XP gives you total control, while Vista does not automatically, so the settings have to be changed.
You can NOT do this by large folders with other folders inside them. If you change the settings of the folder it will only change the direct documents in that folder, not in any subfolder... you have to do those seperately. Go to properties and Security tab. Click the 'edit' button and make sure the administrator, all users and individula users have every box check that they can physically have. Click 'ok' twice, and the problem should be fixed.
****I just noticed when checking myself for the proper buttons to push, that my folder didn't have 'write' permissions in my computer's harddrive. So maybe this isn't only confined to the XP formatted harddrives?
johnny wrote: I don't understand no
My latest PC query is why won't my AVG 8.0 update automatically now? I have to do it manually:\ohwell:
me too!
Keeps saying i'm not protected,bastard!
I've had something simillar in XtraPayments.
It seems that when a folder is copied to a CD/DVD, ie a read-only medium....you can NEVER get rid of the attribute naturally. But if you check, the files within the folders probably HAVE cleared it. If not, try the wee utility that's on the net for sorting this.....might have been what was linked above, I didn't look.
But sorry to say, you do not have total control/permission. If you did it would change, as root, I can make anything except a ROM a writable file/device.....which is why you can type things like cat /dev/random>/dev/ram If you are ever in front of a linux box, try this, the owner/admin will be VERY impressed with you[1].
I believe you can do it from a DOS box (windows-R, type "command") usung attr, but I'm fucked if I can remember the syntax (in pishta you'll need to launch the DOSbox as admin....let's see you figure that out without using the same software I trick it wirh). In a proper terminal on a proper computer it'd be chmod 750 -R /c/documents\ and\ Settings/Biggie (which would have the files writable by you, readable by your group (not to be confused with what windows calls a group) and invisible to everyone else.
[1]for the seppo's....this is sarcasm, the above command scrambles the computer's brain and WILL make it shite itself, the admin, will stab you, your family and your pets for fucking his uptime stats.
Doctor? wrote: I've had something simillar in XtraPayments.
It seems that when a folder is copied to a CD/DVD, ie a read-only medium....you can NEVER get rid of the attribute naturally. But if you check, the files within the folders probably HAVE cleared it. If not, try the wee utility that's on the net for sorting this.....might have been what was linked above, I didn't look.
But sorry to say, you do not have total control/permission. If you did it would change, as root, I can make anything except a ROM a writable file/device.....which is why you can type things like cat /dev/random>/dev/ram If you are ever in front of a linux box, try this, the owner/admin will be VERY impressed with you[1].
I believe you can do it from a DOS box (windows-R, type "command") usung attr, but I'm fucked if I can remember the syntax (in pishta you'll need to launch the DOSbox as admin....let's see you figure that out without using the same software I trick it wirh). In a proper terminal on a proper computer it'd be chmod 750 -R /c/documents\ and\ Settings/Biggie (which would have the files writable by you, readable by your group (not to be confused with what windows calls a group) and invisible to everyone else.
[1]for the seppo's....this is sarcasm, the above command scrambles the computer's brain and WILL make it shite itself, the admin, will stab you, your family and your pets for fucking his uptime stats.
I covered this a few post above yers
Was in a hurry to geek-out, didn't fully read yours or Nick(?)'s
Tis a fucker though the way windows file permissions only seem to function when the end result is user annoyance, any operation which is stupid or dangerous, and they step aside. Unix file permissions are far better, no surprise there then since windows is based on DOS, which is based on CPM, which was "unix for the terminally stupid", and had about 30 commands, instead of the hundreds found on even fairly basic unix systems.
That's why the slashes go the other way in the MS world, to make it look different.
The bit that always amuses me, is that the official story is that QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System), which was later renamed as MSDOS.....was supposedly ripped off via reverse engineering[1] CPM. However, several CPM hackers [2] state that they'd tried using undocumented features and hacks on QDOS and they worked. While it's possible that one might reverse engineer an undocumented feature if you had found it and knew it was there, this simply isn't the case for hacks, which typically depend on the precise architecture of the code. In other words, this strongly implies that QDOS was simply a slightly altered and stolen version of CPM. In other words Windows is a graphical shell for an aging backend based on a stolen copy of "'nix for 'tards", any wonder it barely works.
Ooooops, I've ranted again. I should be kinder to windos these days, my Windows Indego, is actually quite good, and quote stable, and I'd reccommend it over any official release. Of course when stuff goes wrong it's still unspeakably hard to figure out the problem ("an error has occurred, please clck here for more information" (clickety) "No more information is available"..... I'd prefer "I've crapped them again", at least that doesn't imply MS know what's wrong with their bugfest). Thankfully it breaks a lot less than any official release I've used.
[1]Don't mind this, after all, all non-IBM PC's are a product of reverse engineering, and there's a few Linux apps like that too. [2] That's Hackers as in the correct definition.
DJ Diamond wrote: What's going on?
All of the files in my Documents folder have Read only attibutes. I can de-select it and it runs through the files to change it, but the box stays clicked. I'm baffled.
I can write to any of these folders, and amend the files as I wish. The attributes seem to be interfering with an application I'm trying to run, so I need to change them.
Sorry the description is garbled. If you don't understand it, there's a fair chance you won't be able to help!
no insult or offence here, just re-read it, does sound kinda garbled, why do you want to de-select read only? because if you do, you wont be able to read it, dont quite get what you are trying to do? and what software are you using, that interferes with the attributes?
DigiDiz wrote: why do you want to de-select read only? because if you do, you wont be able to read it, dont quite get what you are trying to do? and what software are you using, that interferes with the attributes?
Ah, "read-only" means (or used to mean) that you can't write to the particular area that is "read-only"... Now, if I'm understanding that KB article, this is now ignored by XP and Vista, and so it shouldn't really matter...
However, one of my folders within "My Documents" is also "read-only", and I've thus far not managed to rename it (either via command line or GUI)...
Might try the attrib bit on that folder (it could be cumulative permissions)...
Ah well..
So, Col, did you manage to sort it out?
Nick King wrote:
DigiDiz wrote: why do you want to de-select read only? because if you do, you wont be able to read it, dont quite get what you are trying to do? and what software are you using, that interferes with the attributes?
Ah, "read-only" means (or used to mean) that you can't write to the particular area that is "read-only"... Now, if I'm understanding that KB article, this is now ignored by XP and Vista, and so it shouldn't really matter...
However, one of my folders within "My Documents" is also "read-only", and I've thus far not managed to rename it (either via command line or GUI)...
Might try the attrib bit on that folder (it could be cumulative permissions)...
Ah well..
So, Col, did you manage to sort it out?
I do know about permissions etc.....I have studied MCSE with great lengths, with a really boring video tutor. With Vista, you need to be the admin to be able to change things like permissions etc...
DigiDiz wrote:
Nick King wrote:
DigiDiz wrote: why do you want to de-select read only? because if you do, you wont be able to read it, dont quite get what you are trying to do? and what software are you using, that interferes with the attributes?
Ah, "read-only" means (or used to mean) that you can't write to the particular area that is "read-only"... Now, if I'm understanding that KB article, this is now ignored by XP and Vista, and so it shouldn't really matter...
However, one of my folders within "My Documents" is also "read-only", and I've thus far not managed to rename it (either via command line or GUI)...
Might try the attrib bit on that folder (it could be cumulative permissions)...
Ah well..
So, Col, did you manage to sort it out?
I do know about permissions etc.....I have studied MCSE with great lengths, with a really boring video tutor. With Vista, you need to be the admin to be able to change things like permissions etc...
Indeed, and on a home computer which is your own, in theory (unless you're feeling pretty suicidal!), then you should have admin permissions...
However, your comment was that if "you deselect read-only" then you can't read it... Not true, unless they were the only permissions (including cumulative) assigned to that folder (for that user - i.e. "No Access")... You'd obviously have to "reset" it to "Full Control", "Read/Write", etc...
Been a long time since I first started studying for an MCSE (1996 - blimey that makes me feel old...) - Windows NT 3.51 was the server make then, and Windows 95 had just been introduced to replace 3.11 with Workgroups... :(
Nowadays, thank God I only write documents about computers rather than supporting 'em! :)
So what is Biggie trying to modify anyways? Photoshopping his own head in his porn collection???
EdelBrock wrote: So what is Biggie trying to modify anyways? Photoshopping his own head in his porn collection???
Probably!
