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El Jarvo wrote: How do brothers actually 'reform' anyway?!
What happened? Did their Mum bash their heads together and tell them to 'stop being so silly and play nicely'?
Eh?
Hmmm, you have any brothers Al?
If so, surely you should be wondering, as I always have, how each and every gig doesn't turn into something which looks like an episode of Bottom.
I havent had a civil conversation with my 'brother' in over eight years, despite various attempts from people to get us to. It would take more than a family diplomatic effort to get me to waste any of my life on him.
If they do any new stuff, hope they go back to the brown album way of doing things and not the blue album!!
mrselfdestruct wrote: If they do any new stuff, hope they go back to the brown album way of doing things and not the blue album!!
The Blue Album was alright. 'The Altogether' was the rough one.
Just found this on YouTube. Many will know what goes on live in this track, for the others, the fun starts at 4m 15s.
Never liked the album version of that, but the live version always makes me LOL.....I always took it as a gigantic piss-take of "normal" music, not only are those two songs the same (and the other track by The Darkness they later spun in), but it doesn't even matter if you reverse them as they are tonally palindromic.
If you look at the list of other videos that pop up at the end, there's a weird one of bits of 2001 cut to the song.....and by watching it you'll be as well informed as anyone who has seen the movie without first reading the book (Kubrick forgot to mention THE STORY in the film).
Do any of the heregathered orbitalists have any REALLY old bootlegs? The oldest I have was off Loopz,and while it had a FABULOUS version of Open Mind, complete with Suzanne Freytag sample, it did seem that most things were still pre-sequenced. From interviews it seems they used to do their WHOLE set on the fly, nothing preprogramed, (except sound/channel assignments one assumes). Tried this myself a few times, but only to make something new, never to try to re-create an existing track. I's a nightmare with Cubase and a stroppy Atari, and while it'd be less hairy with hardware sequencers and so on, it'd be MUCH harder work on a badly lit, disorientating stage.
"What are all these knobs for?.........."
Pure unadulterated sampling genius.
Must confess I was crushed when they were not asked if their version of that most holy of electronic anthems could be used for The Doctor's return.
In-Sides is by far my favourite, any album where P.E.T.R.O.L. is the weakest track is surely an all time classic. The Box and Out There Somewhere are electronic symphonies!!
Doctor? wrote:
In-Sides is by far my favourite, any album where P.E.T.R.O.L. is the weakest track is surely an all time classic. The Box and Out There Somewhere are electronic symphonies!!
Same here. The Girl With The Sun In Her Heard is my all time favorite and Out There Somewhere is simply an electronic masterpiece.
Bentley wrote:
Doctor? wrote:
In-Sides is by far my favourite, any album where P.E.T.R.O.L. is the weakest track is surely an all time classic. The Box and Out There Somewhere are electronic symphonies!!
Same here. The Girl With The Sun In Her Heard is my all time favorite and Out There Somewhere is simply an electronic masterpiece.
Pretty I've been punched (playfully, or at least, non injuriously) for going off on an extended rant about exactly HOW clever TGWTSIHH is, at a party.
At least they never swapped their beautiful machines for a tapedeck and a curly haired indie kid, unlike SOME!
I've got quite a few live performances - one of the oldest ones I remember is from '93 (Norwich Sound City).
I must sort them out at some point... :)
Dug out The Box CD single for the first time in yonks.God, how we used to buy CD singles .4 part epic , monolithic in its building intensity etc etc That creaking noise at start of part 2 was their studio chair sampled weren't it? Part 4 however always used to remind me of Andy Bell 
Saved by the eery whistling at the end though
I think their live sets are essentially DJ-ing with dozens of "parts" or tracks per song, amirite?
dave soligo wrote: I think their live sets are essentially DJ-ing with dozens of "parts" or tracks per song, amirite?
Not at all. If you are just grabbing that from the samples in the middle of the song i just put up then, it might look that way.
Orbital were famed for being rare in doing live sequencing onstage, and yes they use X amount of tracks. They did play notes as well, and frequently played bum notes at times (I remember a couple of rough live versions of Chime with some major out of key fuck-ups in them). Something often went wrong, which doesnt tend to happen with other similar acts e.g. Chems, Prodigy et al.
example:
It gets away from them a few times during that set, that's the best one though. Once seen Leftfiel suffer the same fate, caused, in their case by some crappy MIDI Time Code by the sounds of it. Took them 20 mins to get it sorted, there was nearly a riot in the crowd, AND on stage. Their set must have been very tightly pre-programmed cos it never seemed to occur to them to skip the offending track.
Burt, you have clearly been to differnt Chems gigs from me LOL they can fuck-up a treat, although I'd concede that in their case it's their machine abuse which causes it more than any attempt at "playing" going wrong.
Worst offenders for 0 effort....Underworld, fucking hopeless.....except Cowgirl, they stopped their shitty "one beat fits all" drum machine and played it RIGHT.....then went back to shite.....even Born Slippy was devoid of it's sole worthy feature...that drum beat....instead it had the same laid back sampled 808 beat (and single preprogrammed fill-in), that every other song barr cowgirl had been inflicted with.
Doctor? wrote: Burt, you have clearly been to differnt Chems gigs from me LOL they can fuck-up a treat, although I'd concede that in their case it's their machine abuse which causes it more than any attempt at "playing" going wrong.
Don't the Chems *ahem* just "push the button"? :p
(I dunno, but the interaction with the visuals must have quite a bit of pre-programming there to stay in synch...?)
Personally, I don't really give a damn about how much people are playing "live" - it's the whole experience - music, dancing, visuals (which the Chems/Orbital/Underworld all do) that make the evening. 
But, yeah, Orbital were one of the few bands who did actually take their studio onto the stage and play the songs as if they were composing them in the studio - keyboards, and all...
I wasn't referring to that track necessarily; I've seen them twice in the 90s (In Sides and Middle of Nowhere tours) and it seems they are just starting and stopping prerecorded sequences on cue, with some filtering and modulation effects thrown in here and there.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
dave soligo wrote: I think their live sets are essentially DJ-ing with dozens of "parts" or tracks per song, amirite?
Not at all. If you are just grabbing that from the samples in the middle of the song i just put up then, it might look that way.
