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It might be wishful thinking on my behalf but are there any plans for a 3rd tribute compliation? I loved the process of anyone submitting their versions and having rounds and play-offs. And then to get the actual CD at the end of it all. I thought the Community album was (sorry IS) superb.

Maybe, it would also generate some much needed fresh input into this site. Just a thought.

Another suggestion could be to include a bonus CD of some of the brilliant tracks that didnt make the first two compilations.

Ive just got into digital recording and would love the chance to cover a New Order track and put it forward for assessing.

Im sure someone(s) gonna tell me a stack of reasons why its not possible/desired.

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I think the perhaps harsh question would be; do we really need a third batch of cover versions? Pressing CDs is not a cheap business either... there would have to be a guaranteed return to make it viable and is there really the demand?

Also, the harsh reality is that many people didn't receive their Community 2 orders or they were heavily delayed. Some people (I believe?) still haven't received their copies. Not to blame Nic or Mike but I think the second Community in particular bit off more than it could chew. Admirable effort but the framework wasn't there to support the distribution; the Shop link above is a famous lame duck.

Community as a term was completely misleading anyway... some people who ended up on the CDs don't post here and never did. They just saw the project as a one off chance to promote their band.

Fair enough for them but the "Community" tag couldn't have been wider off the mark.

Aside from our regulars like Bentley etc who it was nice to see get their versions out.

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As an alternative idea, why not just get existing NOOLers to come up with NO/JD related covers, and go through the play off process, but not have a CD at the end, just a bit of fun, exposure for NOOLers bands, increase in sensible usage (rather than the abuse and spam that seems to be becoming the norm) and entertainment for others, to help Nick with the cost of running the site, there could be a small fee to participate.

What do you think?

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Baggsy having a go!! :bass:

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Jed Stephens wrote: As an alternative idea, why not just get existing NOOLers to come up with NO/JD related covers, and go through the play off process, but not have a CD at the end, just a bit of fun, exposure for NOOLers bands, increase in sensible usage (rather than the abuse and spam that seems to be becoming the norm) and entertainment for others, to help Nick with the cost of running the site, there could be a small fee to participate.

What do you think?

Aye, I'd go for that. Maybe a commemorative CDR for a few folks, strictly burned to order.

Of course it means I'll have to bother to make some music again (recently using cubase is getting to be like work), and it means I'll have to follow through on that plan I hatched last time (Bossy Jem knows all about it, but it was more than 3 days ago so she's probably forgotten).

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I know what you mean about cubase, I'm off to the land of logic as soon as I've saved enough pennies for a new mac, wish I'd never bought the PC! I know what your going to say, but not much music software runs on linux.

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Instead of hankering for yet another of bastardised songs, why dont you just get into another band? There are thousands out there...

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I've asked about this before and chatted with Nic, Mike and Alejo. Another 'Community' CD would be very unlikely, although the first two were brilliantly done when you consider the finished product.

I'd like to propose something if people would like another 'Community' CD though...

As some of you know, I've started doing podcasts for a small independent radio station. Jed from Bass Bandits has been very supportive and given alot of help, including recording a 'theme tune' for me and Alejo has donated tracks and given advice and encouragement. Other NOOLers have listened, commented and supported the whole project and we're very grateful.

Although the shows take alot of time and effort, I'd be more than happy to play any tracks that people want to enter into a 'Community 3' project on maybe one or two shows as an exclusive, dedicated showcase. I can ask our Station Manager if we can put all the tracks on our server for free download and maybe organise a poll for people to vote for their 'Top 15' or whatever.

In any case, listeners would be able to download the tracks that they like, so every copy would be personalised - as long as any entrants agree to the posting, playing and copying of their tracks.

That way, there's no mastering fees, no printing and pressing fees, no distribution or licensing fees and no one still waiting for their copy months (or even years) after the event.

Is that a dopey idea, or one that people would be interested in?

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The Teacher wrote: Instead of hankering for yet another of bastardised songs, why dont you just get into another band? There are thousands out there...

Fuck off Liam.

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I liked the podcasts. for me that was the most interesting/successful part of community II ie hearing it all

what I think would be a good idea for any further musical ventures under a NOOL banner is a much more collaborative approach. whether that's adding live bass or vocals to some other nooler's instrumental or delivering an entire recording to someone else to mix! ie more ideas and more mutual support

I've had that intention on the backburner for a year and a half. I have some technology and some ideas but very little time. so very little happens... any takers?

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Facsimile wrote: I liked the podcasts. for me that was the most interesting/successful part of community II ie hearing it all

what I think would be a good idea for any further musical ventures under a NOOL banner is a much more collaborative approach. whether that's adding live bass or vocals to some other nooler's instrumental or delivering an entire recording to someone else to mix! ie more ideas and more mutual support

I've had that intention on the backburner for a year and a half. I have some technology and some ideas but very little time. so very little happens... any takers?

I started something similar a few months ago, I uploaded the individual tracks from my cover of miracle cure to megaupload for people to do their own mixes of, there's been 14 downloads, but so far I've only heard one part done mix, subtle hint!

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I've already done a full length cover/reinterpretation of Morning, Night And Day, but I'm guessing I'll need to edit it down for any future Community releases. I hope that Community 3 does happen one day...

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Well at least my thread created some discussion. Id be willing to do a collaboration if anyones interested. Im a newbie to digital recording. Been using Krystal Audio Editior which is pretty cool (and free).

check out my first song at www.soundclick.com/Almartin

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Ravi Kumar wrote:

Get them 'God is Great' , 'Imshallah' 'Buy Pork Scratchings' samples in there:nod:

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Burt Reynolds wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote:

Get them 'God is Great' , 'Imshallah' 'Buy Pork Scratchings' samples in there:nod:

oo its been delated,i have missed some of this mans great words,i presume it was much of the same burt ? :laugh:

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banshee wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Ravi Kumar wrote:

Get them 'God is Great' , 'Imshallah' 'Buy Pork Scratchings' samples in there:nod:

oo its been delated,i have missed some of this mans great words,i presume it was much of the same burt ? :laugh:

I cant remember.. think he said he'd be better than NO with some world samples. After that, he went on his Muslim rant. OOh, mebbe I upset him.

Keep mentioning pigs, everyone.

Perhaps his mother was a right dirty old sow.:shrug:

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NO Regret wrote: Well at least my thread created some discussion. Id be willing to do a collaboration if anyones interested. Im a newbie to digital recording. Been using Krystal Audio Editior which is pretty cool (and free).

check out my first song at www.soundclick.com/Almartin

your link isn't working, I'll have a look when you correct it, meanwhile if you want to have a play with the tracks from my version of miracle cure they can be downloaded from here

I'll have a go at mixing someones tracks if they want to make them available

I've just tried to go to soundclick.com and it's down so your link is probably OK, I'll try again later.

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I think I gave up on listening to covers after that abhorent cover of Miracle Cure by some dick on here.

A shit song to begin with.

I dont want to listen to some prick playing rock-star covering it, and making it worse.

No one is interested lads. If you want to play bedroom rock stars just do it. No need to make a big deal out of it. They are all SHITE compared to how New Order did it.

For once, Liam is RIGHT.

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Hugh Mungous wrote: I think I gave up on listening to covers after that abhorent cover of Miracle Cure by some dick on here.

A shit song to begin with.

I dont want to listen to some prick playing rock-star covering it, and making it worse.

No one is interested lads. If you want to play bedroom rock stars just do it. No need to make a big deal out of it. They are all SHITE compared to how New Order did it.

For once, Liam is RIGHT.

Mmm wonder who this might be?

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The Teacher wrote: Instead of hankering for yet another of bastardised songs, why dont you just get into another band? There are thousands out there...

and yet you keep coming back here...hmmmm...wonder why that is now?

Personally I like Jed's thoughts. A bunch of mp3s from people here. Would shed a whole new light on some folks here, appreciating thier abilities with music that is. I mean, I can play piano (not well by any means... actually most would consider it just abrassive noise, but that's beside the point). I obiously wouldn't be adding anything to the concept, but would love to hear it. :thumb:

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Jed Stephens wrote:

Hugh Mungous wrote: I think I gave up on listening to covers after that abhorent cover of Miracle Cure by some dick on here.

A shit song to begin with.

I dont want to listen to some prick playing rock-star covering it, and making it worse.

No one is interested lads. If you want to play bedroom rock stars just do it. No need to make a big deal out of it. They are all SHITE compared to how New Order did it.

For once, Liam is RIGHT.

Mmm wonder who this might be?

I'm thinking my wife finally got an account?:laugh: :ignore:

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Jed Stephens wrote:

Hugh Mungous wrote: I think I gave up on listening to covers after that abhorent cover of Miracle Cure by some dick on here.

A shit song to begin with.

I dont want to listen to some prick playing rock-star covering it, and making it worse.

No one is interested lads. If you want to play bedroom rock stars just do it. No need to make a big deal out of it. They are all SHITE compared to how New Order did it.

For once, Liam is RIGHT.

Mmm wonder who this might be?

My money is actually on a returning BA.....'cept he entered in Community 2.

Seems to high quality a rant for sister-minge-breath.

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Might well take a crack at Miracle cure (shite song to start with, much better now).

I'd love to make one of mine available to hear what others make of it. I've had tracks produced by folks who REALLY knew what they were doing back in me early days (we're talking 92/93), but they still had me whinging in their ear and trying to get them to run on my schedule (once recorded and mixed 7 tunes in 20 studio hours....and one or two of them DON'T sound shite), so my not being involved at all, turning my work over to another creative mind, is quite interesting.

Trouble is....I've been through a windows re-install since most of my worthy tunes were recorded. Since the new machine was built last April/May, I've only installed things as and when they were needed, so I lack many of the VSTi's used a couple of years ago.....so track by track audio dumps of "pre-re-install" tunes is impossible.........who fancies bass and vox as audio and some nice midi parts then?

BTW.....I didn't mean I was falling out with Cubase, it's still like my 3rd arm/leg or 2nd cock....but years of weed does NOTHING to your brain that Trammadol can't oustrip in about 6 weeks....I've been munchin them like sweeties for nearly 5 years now. Also I lost my old default song and have not replaced it yet. THE hardest thing with the VSTi concept is that "next next next next next preset" trap.....I put in a part, then spend 2 mins finding a sound that makes it ROCK, then, looking for inspiration, start looking for the sound that will play the next part, in the hope that the sound will inspire the part. This worked great on a hardware synth with buttons and only 64 patches.....but get UltraFocus or something on the go and you can go mental listening to the same part over and over on a million patches (and always too lazy to just edit/write a sound, despite being a synth genius (I am, cope with it ;) ) ). SO I saved a def.all (or whatever this new-fangled PC version calls it, it'll always be def.all to the disciples of the little beige bastard), and in my def/all I had 8 tracks of Edirol Orchestra...piani, strings, flute, brass, basic kit,etc. It also had an instance of Absynth and one of Kontakt (preloaded with melotrin tapes), LM7 and a couple of analogue modelling synths. It meant I could put "musical" parts together using the basic, and highly harmonius on account of Edirol being Roland, noises from the Orch, and then fook about assigning them to weirder noises some other time, and I also had melotrons and a bit of house/acid/dr-who-sountrack-circa-1973 on tap. Must rebuild a new song really, it'll make life easier. I can't do Logic, and I (proudly) can't do Cakewalk (Sonar, whatever)....nope...Cubase all the way I fear. Wavelab and to an extent, Reactor are the only other things I'm happy using.

EDIT: No, really, Liam, fuck RIGHT off!

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Doctor? wrote: Might well take a crack at Miracle cure (shite song to start with, much better now).

I'd love to make one of mine available to hear what others make of it. I've had tracks produced by folks who REALLY knew what they were doing back in me early days (we're talking 92/93), but they still had me whinging in their ear and trying to get them to run on my schedule (once recorded and mixed 7 tunes in 20 studio hours....and one or two of them DON'T sound shite), so my not being involved at all, turning my work over to another creative mind, is quite interesting.

Trouble is....I've been through a windows re-install since most of my worthy tunes were recorded. Since the new machine was built last April/May, I've only installed things as and when they were needed, so I lack many of the VSTi's used a couple of years ago.....so track by track audio dumps of "pre-re-install" tunes is impossible.........who fancies bass and vox as audio and some nice midi parts then?

BTW.....I didn't mean I was falling out with Cubase, it's still like my 3rd arm/leg or 2nd cock....but years of weed does NOTHING to your brain that Trammadol can't oustrip in about 6 weeks....I've been munchin them like sweeties for nearly 5 years now. Also I lost my old default song and have not replaced it yet. THE hardest thing with the VSTi concept is that "next next next next next preset" trap.....I put in a part, then spend 2 mins finding a sound that makes it ROCK, then, looking for inspiration, start looking for the sound that will play the next part, in the hope that the sound will inspire the part. This worked great on a hardware synth with buttons and only 64 patches.....but get UltraFocus or something on the go and you can go mental listening to the same part over and over on a million patches (and always too lazy to just edit/write a sound, despite being a synth genius (I am, cope with it ;) ) ). SO I saved a def.all (or whatever this new-fangled PC version calls it, it'll always be def.all to the disciples of the little beige bastard), and in my def/all I had 8 tracks of Edirol Orchestra...piani, strings, flute, brass, basic kit,etc. It also had an instance of Absynth and one of Kontakt (preloaded with melotrin tapes), LM7 and a couple of analogue modelling synths. It meant I could put "musical" parts together using the basic, and highly harmonius on account of Edirol being Roland, noises from the Orch, and then fook about assigning them to weirder noises some other time, and I also had melotrons and a bit of house/acid/dr-who-sountrack-circa-1973 on tap. Must rebuild a new song really, it'll make life easier. I can't do Logic, and I (proudly) can't do Cakewalk (Sonar, whatever)....nope...Cubase all the way I fear. Wavelab and to an extent, Reactor are the only other things I'm happy using.

EDIT: No, really, Liam, fuck RIGHT off!

I think theres a new tune in you waiting to be unleashed. Upload some VSTs, then Cubase, plug in some instruments and plug away. Certainly a rewarding pastime.

I use Krystal myself. its simple for someone like me. But I know what you mean about VSTs. they can become abit of an obsession.

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