Jack Straw, Baroness Warsi, Chris Huhne, Nick Griffin and Bonnie Greer.
Lets hear it then...
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The Teacher wrote: Jack Straw, Baroness Warsi, Chris Huhne, Nick Griffin and Bonnie Greer.
Lets hear it then...
Warsi should eat Griffin alive.
But then, I guess that's what she's been set up to do. Might all go horribly wrong. Potential car-crash in the offing.
I dont know. Every time she's been on I think she's been rubbish.
I see Labour and Lub Dems have gone for the "dull it down" option. Which is probably the most sensible option.
The Teacher wrote: I dont know. Every time she's been on I think she's been rubbish.
Part of the establishment though, isn't she? Tory Baroness. You can't get more establishment than that. And a Muslim to boot.
Wouldn't want to be in her shoes though, having to face Griffin down in a public televised debate. Shouldn't really be any need for her to be in that position in this day and age.
Maybe it won't come to that, and it'll all peter out into a pointless Q&A session with little interaction between panelists.
I don't know the first fcuking thing about the American they've got on so dunno what she's likely to add.
I've seen Ms Greer on political debate shows before. She presents herself very well and has championed "ethnic minority" issues in the USA for quite a while. She's a playwright, director and (I think) she's done some radio work.
All the same, an American, black civil rights activist on the same panel as that pathetic slug Nick Griffin should make for interesting watching!
On the topic of Question Time, the ending last night was funny:
Bimbelby: And on our programme next week, we'll have the BNP leader, Nick Griffin...
Audience: Booo!
Bimbleby:... Harriet Harman...
Audience: Booo!
Bimbleby: Strictly Come Dancing star and journalist, John Sargeant...
Audience: Hooray!!!
Bimbleby: This is becoming like a pantomime...
Single Audience Member: OH NO IT'S NOT!!!
Classic. 
Biginoil wrote: Germaine Greer is a big fat lemon.
There, I've said it.
Lucky she won't be on Question Time next week then.
Biginoil wrote: Germaine Greer is a big fat lemon.
There, I've said it.
Given her a squeeze SIR?At your age!How VERY dare you.
Sip of the tongue indeed!
Bonnie Greer is pretty cool, but far too polite. Lining dark-skinned pundits up alongside Griffin is the kind of braindead thing you'd even expect C4 to balk at - duh. However, "far too polite" is almost certainly exactly how the show will pan out next week. I imagine the pantomime boos from the audience will also continue, thus making (a) the show even more facile than it already is and (b) Nick Griffin look like a mock-baddy, rather than a fucking neo-fascist.
If you want anything approaching serious political debate between adults you'd be better off staring into the toilet bowl after the next time you go for a shit.
For fuck's fucking sake.
Brotherhood all the way wrote: Nick will run rings around the lot of them.
thing is, no matter how great an orator he is (and after all. his idle Hitler was quite the public shrieker), if your basic argument is a fairy tale, you wont run rings round anything larger than a neutron. Really we're talking about trying to use spectography as a personality metric, this makes as much sense as using psychoanalytic techniques to study a star's chromosphere.
He will make a fucking tit of himself, but that's OK, from next week a Max Moseley will be available to take over the party.
Brotherhood all the way wrote: Nick will run rings around the lot of them.
The day that fat ugly fuckwank 'runs rings' around anyone is the day I run my tongue around your fetid fucking ringpiece.
You vacuous fucking cunt.
I wonder if Griffin will repeat his proposed policy of sinking immigrant laden boats before they reach the gold leafed shores of Italia?
...or maybe he'll reveal his new idea of a three monthly napalming of Calais?
Nob.
[orange]TheAotearoan[/orange] wrote: I wonder if Griffin will repeat his proposed policy of sinking immigrant laden boats before they reach the gold leafed shores of Italia?
...or maybe he'll reveal his new idea of a three monthly napalming of Calais?
Nob.
By Italian standards that is a fairly liberal proposal
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:
Brotherhood all the way wrote: Nick will run rings around the lot of them.
The day that fat ugly fuckwank 'runs rings' around anyone is the day I run my tongue around your fetid fucking ringpiece.
You vacuous fucking cunt.
Jack Straw is ace.
Sensible,Labour,Open and Blackburn ( Rovers fan )
opps in caps that spells ' SLOB '
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:
Brotherhood all the way wrote: Nick will run rings around the lot of them.
The day that fat ugly fuckwank 'runs rings' around anyone is the day I run my tongue around your fetid fucking ringpiece.
You vacuous fucking cunt.
The day he runs in any sense of the word will be quite amazing
Wonder how many seconds into the programme before the Black Police Association and MOBO awards get mentioned as justification for the BNP's existence? 
The BBC have actually got the country talking about a programme that attracts about 2.5 million every week. Should treble that figure this week.
The hope is that Griffin will make himself look like a turd, however I fear that the opposite will happen. He's in a no lse situation. THe BNP cant lose any votes as a result of this due to the moronic nature of the people who vote for them, however they can pick up a vast number of disaffected voters and with the calibre of the panel so far...
Should have had Darcus Howe, Tony Benn and Portillo on - that would have been a much better debate.
Well, tonights the night...
I must admit, I have been amazed at some of the sheer stupidity being spread around this week. Some of it makes the board look like a place of reasoned debate.
I think my favourite has to be this, from the Childrens Poet Laureate, Michael Rosen.
"We've got a right not to hear that stuff. I'm Jewish, black people, Asian people or anybody, we have a right not to hear that stuff, and the BBC knows that and that's why I'm not allowed to put out racist stuff on my programme."
Of course, he has his right not to hear it simply by not watching the programme.
Its clear that the utter stupidity of the leftist media will result in record ratings for Question Time tomorrow night. People arent going to tune in for Jack Straw, they are going to tune in for Nick Griffin, which is quite remarkable considering his party will recieve less than 1% of the vote at the forthcoming General Election. As the old cliche goes, all publicity is good publicity and the BNP and Question Time have sure been given lots of that.
As for the programme itself, I think it'll be a bit of a damp squib. Griffin will seek to distance himself from any controversy and will probably come off reasonably well. I doubt anyone will try to get a rise out of him or challenge him. Be interesting to see how he answers the inevitable "how should the UK deal with a population increase of ten million?" question though.
Anyway, Nick Griffin = RATINGS.
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: Bonnie Greer is pretty cool, but far too polite. Lining dark-skinned pundits up alongside Griffin is the kind of braindead thing you'd even expect C4 to balk at - duh. However, "far too polite" is almost certainly exactly how the show will pan out next week. I imagine the pantomime boos from the audience will also continue, thus making (a) the show even more facile than it already is and (b) Nick Griffin look like a mock-baddy, rather than a fucking neo-fascist.
If you want anything approaching serious political debate between adults you'd be better off staring into the toilet bowl after the next time you go for a shit.
For fuck's fucking sake.
Ah well,I think it will make great telly all the same. Great ratings grabber by the Beeb
Popcorn is ready,up and down the land.
I'm giving the KKK outfit a quick once over with the iron and I'm all set!
Let's see what the horrible shit has to say.
Liam,when you predicted Griffin will come across quite well,before he comes on,explain...How so? He's a sinister cunt.Plenty of him on youtube. To give him any grace,at best,you would have to say the man is deluded...
In reality he's a horrible slimey sly cunt.All the attributes of a successful politician,granted.. But people just aren't that stupid these days(most).He's a wrong un.
Deluded or not, he would do his best to come across as, for lack of a better term, "presentable".
"moving the BNP away from anti semitism etc" as he just said, a clear attempt to become presentable. Laughing along, another attempt at being presentable.
I'm not sure its working, but he is clearly trying.
I was in the Question Time audience many moons ago in Norwich. It certainly isn't live (they film it about an hour before it goes out), which I was most upset by. Good line up when I was there: Richard Branson, Piers Morgan, that Labour MP with sticky-out ears.....
What I remember most was (a) the fact that I agreed with almost everything Piers Morgan said (which was scary) and (b) being gutted that the charming and very pretty girl sitting next to me didn't want to go for a drink afterwards. In fact, I bet she went backstage to suck Branson's cock, the fucking gold-digger.
Anyway, carry on....
I think he's come off like a right tit, as we were all hoping.
Must be less attractive to the voting public after this performance, surely?
It's a shame all the protesters gave him too much publicity in the first place.
Burt Reynolds wrote: I think he's come off like a right tit, as we were all hoping.
Must be less attractive to the voting public after this performance, surely?
It's a shame all the protesters gave him too much publicity in the first place.
We must fight for the right for him to come across as a right tit.
Burt Reynolds wrote: I think he's come off like a right tit, as we were all hoping.
Must be less attractive to the voting public after this performance, surely?
It's a shame all the protesters gave him too much publicity in the first place.
Well, he didnt "win" for sure. I got it wrong, but it was set up to me. Not one mention of the postie strike.
He was never attractive to the voters in the first place. And by the time of the election, this will long be forgotten. Less than 1% of the vote, as usual.
Alan Davies is on This Week now being very sensible. Hooray.
The Teacher wrote:
Alan Davies is on This Week now being very sensible. Hooray.
isn't he just? good man.
Watching This Week as well.
What the fudge is going on with Andrew Neil's hair?
I mean, really?! 
I had more grey than him when I was 25.
Shug wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote: I think he's come off like a right tit, as we were all hoping.
Must be less attractive to the voting public after this performance, surely?
It's a shame all the protesters gave him too much publicity in the first place.
We must fight for the right for him to come across as a right tit.
of course. Curiosity killed the cat.
I do think the public have the right to view and make their own minds up; they surely can't be that stupid. From what I saw, he looked like a prize cunt.
If the BBC ban stuff it often makes it more popular. E.g. 'Relax' FGTH.
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Shug wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote: I think he's come off like a right tit, as we were all hoping.
Must be less attractive to the voting public after this performance, surely?
It's a shame all the protesters gave him too much publicity in the first place.
We must fight for the right for him to come across as a right tit.
of course. Curiosity killed the cat.
I do think the public have the right to view and make their own minds up; they surely can't be that stupid. From what I saw, he looked like a prize cunt.
If the BBC ban stuff it often makes it more popular. E.g. 'Relax' FGTH.
I agree with the right honourable gentleman, if anyhting it certainly got the public going, there were a good few people in our office who argued that he shouldnae get the forum and exposure on national TV. Glad to see my argument was proved right
Public not stupd? You don't work with them then do you.
Anyway, ickle diddums is saying he's been demonised. Poor thing, at least the BNP would never demonise individuals or indeed entire nationalities, skin tones, retardligious views etc.
Ally wrote: Watching This Week as well.
What the fudge is going on with Andrew Neil's hair?
I mean, really?!
Pubes of a dead squirrel according to The Daily Mirror
Pretty solid performance from Griffin but a dreadful audience which Dimbleby failed to moderate at all; numerous interruptions while Nick was in mid flow.
Bonnie Greer and that Indian bird were crap but the Lib-Dem gave Nick a run for his money, fair play.
Dunno why people (still) cant accept the concept of racial identity?
They should have shown him out the front door when he left, that way he could have had a really 'vigourous debate' with the public.
El Jarvo wrote:
Part of the establishment though, isn't she? Tory Baroness. You can't get more establishment than that. And a Muslim to boot.
Come a long long way, she used to have a fag behind the bike sheds with Lucy when they were at school.
Brotherhood all the way wrote: Bonnie Greer and that Indian bird were crap but the Lib-Dem gave Nick a run for his money, fair play.
That Indian bird?
I thought you of all people - as our most vociferous supporter of Sharia Law and Muslim extremism - would at least recognise someone of Pakistani origin. 
My feelings on the whole BNP debacle (if anyones at al remotely interested). I think it was right for BBC to invite Nick Griffin on. Give him to chance to speak and let everyone make their own mind up as to whether any of it carries any weight or if hes just spouting complete crap.
I came away thinking he was a complete imbacle. Unable to hold a serious debate, resorting to chuckling like a schoolboy or spouting crap. No matter how disillusioned I might get with the current governement or the other parties I vow never to resort to voting BNP. Complete waste of time.
He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
It did become abit of a BNP circus and from what I sore it was a shame that the programme didnt tackle any other issues of the day.
Griffin did nothing to convince me he was a decent bloke or had worthwhile policies. And he looks like a complete weirdo.
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Brotherhood all the way wrote:
Dunno why people (still) cant accept the concept of racial identity?
Something to do with the phrase "never again" I think
Dickcheese.
The only thing that in any way surprised me about the programme was Griffin's refusal to 'dilute the brand'. I thought he'd at least try and come across as a half-decent bloke and refuse to rise to the bait. But he just gave it full far-Right rhetoric at practically every opportunity: his rant about homosexuality was particularly grim.
But after all the hyperbole and folk getting their knickers in a twist I don't suppose the show has altered a single person's view of the BNP (or any of the other parties) one little bit. Hopefully now we can get back to more important matters, like when is Cheryl Cole going to do a full split-beaver photo shoot? And where can we hire a wrestling ring for Shug and Liam to settle their differences like men?
Doctor? wrote:
Brotherhood all the way wrote:
Dunno why people (still) cant accept the concept of racial identity?
Something to do with the phrase "never again" I think
Dickcheese.
Yes, I was going to comment on Andrew King's (obvious) comment on this thread, but then I remembered I was going to try and ignore him...
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: like when is Cheryl Cole going to do a full split-beaver photo shoot?
If you find out, can you let me know?
Nick King wrote:
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: like when is Cheryl Cole going to do a full split-beaver photo shoot?
If you find out, can you let me know?
keep me updated as well please 
Speaking a Cheryl Cole,did anycunt see her 'singing' on that x factor shite last week?
Tell ye what shes got a fuckin cheek judging anyones singing after that
I still would though
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Spineless, just because he refused to go to war? 
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Spineless, just because he refused to go to war?
Presumably. Or maybe the glib quip about 'stock' was a reference to his Jewishness. Either way, the person making the comment proves himself to be a total dick once more. Surely being a conscientious objector to mass slaughter is the kind of thing we should really be applauding?
Nick Griffin was claiming on QT that we shouldn't have gone to war... bring our boys back home... etc.
If conscription was in force, would he have refused to go? Conscientous objection? He's a hypocrite as well as an odious toad.
Although I fully support the people who go to fight "on our behalf" you've got to admire those who stand up for their principles - Jack Straw's dad included. It often takes courage to stand up for your beliefs, go against the grain and say "No".
Although admittedly, he could have signed up for the Medical Corps, not fought or killed anyone and still done his bit...
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Spineless, just because he refused to go to war?
Its just my opinion. Everyones entitled to theirs. I dont expect people to agree. You could argue he was standing up to his right against mass slaughter but id prefer to view that he had the chance to help fight for his country and he chose not to.
Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Spineless, just because he refused to go to war?
Presumably. Or maybe the glib quip about 'stock' was a reference to his Jewishness. Either way, the person making the comment proves himself to be a total dick once more. Surely being a conscientious objector to mass slaughter is the kind of thing we should really be applauding?
Complete dick now. hmm. why do you always have to make personal attacks.
i wasnt refering to any Jewism.
Id rather save my applauding for the heroic man and women that put theyre lives on the line to protect our country from invasion. call me old fashioned, patriotic, whatever.
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Is your Dad bigger than Jack Straw's Dad, No Regret, mate?
El Jarvo wrote:
NO Regret wrote:
Nick King wrote:
NO Regret wrote: He did make one valid point. Jack Straws dad being banged up for refusing to fight in the second world war while his was in RAF. That kept Straw quiet for a bit.
Valid?
Id say it was valid. Jack Straws hardly from good stock is he. A spineless toad like his old man. Just my opinion of course.
Is your Dad bigger than Jack Straw's Dad, No Regret, mate?
Probably not. he was only about 8 and got evacuated to Barnsley.
