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So, I thought I'd join. But when i registered and tried to log in, it wouldn't let me! Denied, many a time. So I came back here, a much more friendly environment.
Does anyone else belong to the Zwan message board? It's so big and impersonal, or whatever. Like 15,000 members. Enough to intimidate me. I like it here much better. Not so confusing for little me. So, what do you all think about Zwan anyways?
(For those who don't know, Zwan is Billy Corgan's new band!!!)
There are many people here who are not BC fans, I'm afraid. Most feel he ruined Turn My Way.
Have not heard one thing by 'em, sorry. Didn't know at first that Zwan was BC's new band, so I drove past some record store telling me that THE NEW ZWAN is here, and all I could do was shrug my shoulders and drive past.
Originally posted by Patrick There are many people here who are not BC fans, I'm afraid.Most feel he ruined Turn My Way.
I don't see what's so bad about Turn My Way, especially since Billy was guest singer. What? Tell me. At least it's not as bad as Orgy's Blue Monday cover.
No, really. I'd like to know why everybody hates Billy. I think he's a very creative lyricist and has a very expressive voice. And he's American, which is good. I need to get back to my own roots. Too much British music in my cd collection.
Like I always said, The Brits rule music, the Yankees make the best movies. You know it's true.
i think billy reached his creative peak with SP's siamese dream. although other albums had their moments.
i dunno, i find his singing to be aggravating and zwan's music in itself isn't too bad - but again - the singing. but it *can* be argued that it is unique. etc.
It can be argued that New Order would have been better with a better singer too, so bands are what they are, we never know where would be Joy Division with Ian Curtis still on board and Bernard on guitars & keyboards..
So the voice is a matter of taste, I seriously don't think Billy ruined Turn My Way, as it's my best track on Get Ready, but I admit it sounded aweful live...
Originally posted by Grell i think billy reached his creative peak with SP's siamese dream. although other albums had their moments.
Agreed. Adore and Machina are awful albums.
Originally posted by Spotnick It can be argued that New Order would have been better with a better singer too, so bands are what they are, we never know where would be Joy Division with Ian Curtis still on board and Bernard on guitars & keyboards..So the voice is a matter of taste, I seriously don't think Billy ruined Turn My Way, as it's my best track on Get Ready, but I admit it sounded aweful live...
Thank you.
And I agree 100% that it's crap live.
To add, I guess I've never really heard either of Billy's bands live. Hmmmm...
Originally posted by Johnny Giles > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> I hope this is your ZWAN SONG!:D
Rubbish ;)
Sorry but you know i am the KING of CRAP jokes!
Originally posted by Grell i think billy reached his creative peak with SP's siamese dream. although other albums had their moments. i dunno, i find his singing to be aggravating and zwan's music in itself isn't too bad - but again - the singing. but it *can* be argued that it is unique. etc.
A boring, middle of the road opinion! But sadly I agree entirely. Siamese Dream was pretty good, other SP albums have a bit of good stuff and quite a lot of awful stuff.
I like his singing on the studio version of Turn My Way, but not on the live versions I've heard.
And he looked ridiculous in the later SP days. OK so does Barny with his 'dancing' and his Victor Meldrew specs, but in BCs case it was deliberate, Barny can't help it.
Originally posted by 404 error > Originally posted by Grell> i think billy reached his creative peak with SP's siamese dream. although other albums had their moments. > > i dunno, i find his singing to be aggravating and zwan's music in itself isn't too bad - but again - the singing. but it *can* be argued that it is unique. etc.
A boring, middle of the road opinion! But sadly I agree entirely. Siamese Dream was pretty good, other SP albums have a bit of good stuff and quite a lot of awful stuff.
I like his singing on the studio version of Turn My Way, but not on the live versions I've heard.
And he looked ridiculous in the later SP days. OK so does Barny with his 'dancing' and his Victor Meldrew specs, but in BCs case it was deliberate, Barny can't help it.
I know I'll probably get shot down for this, but I'm a bigger SP fan than new order fan - I said it! In my opinion, Gish was SP's best album, in terms of guitar work. SD was lyrically good, but mostly got attention because BC admitted to playing all the guitar and bass parts on it. Mellon Collie and the infinite sadness was good, but too bombastic occasionally and had a lot of filler songs on it. Plus, the singles weren't terribly unique, with the exception of "Zero" and "tonight, tonight." Adore, actually, kind of reminds me of a hybrid between a new order and a cure album. It's probably the muddy sounds, moody lyrics, and the usage of a computer over guitars. Machina I was kind of trite, but Machina II was better. In their first 2 albums, his singing wasn't that whiny, at least on the albums. But after, his voice, at times, became too whiny and he stopped doing decent guitar lines. On Machina, you won't hear anything as good as "I am one" or "Bury Me," both from Gish. However, I haven't bought Zwan's album, because I'm in college, I'm poor, and I basically live off my meal card, thus I've had no money to buy any albums, other than the first half of Substance that I bought for $0.10 and PSB's Please for $2, both at thrift stores. I'll be home in 2 weeks, so maybe I'll buy it then. I guess I could download parts of it from Kazaa, but that'd spoil the whole experience of buying the album. That's enough for now.
Adore, actually, kind of reminds me of a hybrid between a new order and a cure album.
isnt that what every cure album sounds like? ;)
