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The greatest British and Italian sports cars

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Michael, I've started this thread so as not to hijack the beer thread. Of course, any beer sodden louts who want to digress momentarily from the subject of beer are welcome to do so.

I've included Italian sports cars in this thread, because, well, I wanted to. German sports cars? Maybe. Japanese? Perhaps. American? Poor saps never learned how to make 'em.

As noted, I've always been mostly a Triumph man, although I LUST for a big Healey, and prefer any proper British sporst car- MG, Jaguar, etc. preferable to the mass market pablum churned out today.

Discuss.

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I could always go for a McLaren F-1. Or a Lancer Evo.

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Malcolm MacLaren makes cars?

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How 'bout old saab turbos? classy, different and fast, but like NO!

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Stratos, niiiice.

My fave, Iso Grifo, as seen not making it out of the tunnel during the opening scene of The Italian Job:

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Originally posted by Old Blue My fave, Iso Grifo, as seen not making it out of the tunnel during the opening scene of The Italian Job:

Could've sworn it was a Lamborghini Miura that got smashed up in the tunnel in the "Italian Job". As you can see from my avatar I have a reason to be interested in the Italian Job Film. Does a Mini Cooper count as a favourite British sports car ? At least the latest model is built in Oxford (even if BMW finance the operation).

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Actually, you have a point. Now that I think about it, it's the mafioso's in the Iso's.

Can't wait for the remake, not. Filmed in America using BMW's (no disrespect to your shiny example) but other than that, totally faithful to the original. Mr Bridger wouldn't like it...

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the italian job shows some of the worst cruelty to cars imaginable, the cars they destroy at the start dont bear thinking about.

mate has a new shape cooper s, having had a new shape cooper before & an italian job old shape before that

the cooper s has a fair bit of poke to it - would have been good to have seen the bit in top gear they did with the upgraded 200 bhp plus version...

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Originally posted by masaaki sakai the italian job shows some of the worst cruelty to cars imaginable, the cars they destroy at the start dont bear thinking about.mate has a new shape cooper s, having had a new shape cooper before & an italian job old shape before thatthe cooper s has a fair bit of poke to it - would have been good to have seen the bit in top gear they did with the upgraded 200 bhp plus version...

I like Top Gear. I read it every time I'm in a Barnes & Noble. I get Road & Track at the house so it's nice to have a change of pace and see what the Brits think of "Yank Tanks" (which is not much most of the time).

Anyway, like I wrote in another thread:

Best British sports car: Jag-yoo-uh V-12 E-type (tin top)

Best Italian sports car: Ferrari 512 BB

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This is the car I am going to drive in 10 years, hopefully

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Brilliant choice, Tristan! And here is its Italian counterpart, the Maserati 3200 GT:

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I'm of two minds on this "greatest cars" thing. Obviously, cars like the Aston Martin and the Maserati qualify as some of the greatest cars ever, and I love them both (as well as the E-type, and assorted Ferraris and other super cars).

On the other hand, I think there's a case to be made that greatest can mean a lot of things- not just the fastest or most sumptious or most expensive. Great can also mean affordable, for example. Sure, an Aston Martin is a beautiful piece of machinery to lust after, but realistically, it has many more admirers than people actually capable of purchasing one. But a classic MG or Triumph- those are also beautiful cars, and are a realistic dream for the average car enthusiast. Same for the new Coopers.

My last car was a 1990 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio Spider. A beautiful red piece of Pininfarina art on wheels. Affordable both at purchase ($10,500), and to operate (30 miles per gallon), and to service (same labor rate as my mom's Subaru). And because it wa relatively rare, almost nobody knew what it was, and was often mistaken for a Ferrari (well, by your average uninformed motorist). It got tons of admiring looks for a car that cost me less- way less- than the cars its admirers were driving. To me, that made it a great car. Sure, the Maserati is faster, but the Alfa Romeo was a dream that was realistic to achieve.

Sadly, my beautiful piece of automotive art was destroyed by a 17 year old girl in a sport ute. I was stopped at a red light, waiting for the light to change, when this teenager driving way too much car drove right into the back of my car, without ever bothering to apply her brakes. She told me it was the second time she had done that in a year and a half of driving. The State of Oregon, in its wisdom, suspended my license because I was uninsured; the other driver is still out there, prowling Oregon with her lethal weapon.

Below is a 1987 Spider Quadrifoglio, almost as beautiful as my 1990.

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My first foray into British sports cars was a 1962 Austin Healey Sprite. The '62 was a Mk II- the Mk I was the famous Bugeye or Frogeye Sprite. From Mk II on, the Sprite was produced along with the identical MG Midget; enthusiasts thus referred to the cars collectively as Spridgets.

My Sprite was not as pretty as the one below. It was black, and needed extensive restoration. It was not running when I bought it (paid $400). When I got it home, I proceeded to clean it up, beginning by vaccuming about an inch of accumulated mud out of the driver's side footwell. As I reached the metal, I noticed that i was able to see the pavement below the car- the footwell had rusted away! I had a Fred Flintstone car! I spent a small fortune rebuilding and hotrodding the engine and tranny, but eventually sold the car to a friend (who parted it out) because of the rust. Bought non-running, sold non-running! :lol:

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My second sports car was a 1976 Triumph TR7, much like the one picture below, but white, and without the vinyl top. My Triumph mechanic hated the car, although it never gave me any problems. One late night I took it out for a drive in the country. I fell asleep at the wheel, woke up to find myself going off the road, and over-corrected my steering, running off the road on the other side; I wrapped the car around a telephone pole. Afterwards, My friends rererred to it as "the boomerang."

Not a particularly fast car, but no slouch either, for a 4 cylinder. Originally designed as a drop top, they came out as a hard top because Triumph believed that the US would soon legislate drop tops out of existence. Eventually, the TR7 came out as a drop top, and a V8 version, the much superior TR8 joined the TR7 before Triumph faded away.

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Used to have a corgi replica of this rather spiffing marque. Someone round my locale drove one whilst I was a nipper. My dentist had a Lambourghini and there were two Lotus' including an e-type just around the corner from me

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how about this one?

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bugger, that didn't work

who wants to recommend a good hosting site for pictures I can link to?

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