http://www.newsday.com/news/yahoo/nyc-fran0823,0,647056.story?coll=ny-newsaol-headlines
I particularly like the judge's response to the Fox lawyer's claims about people "mistaking" Franken's book for a Fox product 
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Fair and Balanced...and so very stupid
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Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid i hate republicans. i really fucking hate republicans.
you are not being fair nor balanced
It would seem that al franken is as much a lying bastard as michael moore is..........
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com
Comedian Al Franken Apologizes to Ashcroft
Wednesday, August 20, 2003
WASHINGTON — Comedian and liberal activist Al Franken (search) has written an apology letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft after asking him for his personal story about remaining abstinent before marriage.
Franken, a satirist and former writer for "Saturday Night Live," admitted in a letter last month that he deliberately tried to mislead Ashcroft when he sought personal information from him.
"In the letter, I indicated that I wanted your story for a book about abstinence-only sex education entitled 'Savin' It!' I claimed that I had already received testimonies from several conservative leaders, which I had not," he wrote. Portions of the letter were published by Thesmokinggun.com.
"The letter was sent as part of a satirical book I'm working on, which will contain only one or two chapters dealing with abstinence-only sex education."
In June, Franken wrote to Ashcroft requesting his personal story, adding that he had already received testimonials from National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and values guru William J. Bennett, among others.
In encouraging Ashcroft to submit his story, Franken asked the attorney general to reveal honest and personal details about his younger days.
"Don't be afraid to share a moment when you were tempted to have sex, but were able to overcome your urges through willpower and strength of character. Be funny!" Franken wrote. "Did a young woman every think you were homosexual just because you wouldn't have sex with her? Be serious! Were you ever taunted and made to feel bad or 'uncool' because of your choice? But most of all, be real. Kids can sense a phony a mile away."
Franken wrote his request to Ashcroft on letterhead from Harvard University's Shorenstein Center for Press and Politics (search) at the Kennedy School of Government, where he was a fellow during the spring term.
But the school never gave permission for the use of their letterhead, and apparently wasn't pleased with Franken's prank, which he acknowledged in the apology.
"My biggest regret is sending the letter on Shorenstein Center stationery, I can assure you that no one at the Shorenstein Center had knowledge of the letter before I sent it," Franken wrote. "I am very embarrassed to have put them in this awkward and difficult position, and I ask you not to hold this against the Center, the Kennedy School, or Harvard in general."
Franken said that his was sending an apology to everyone who was sent the letter, including the handful of people who had responded. None of the people named in the letter to Ashcroft wrote back, Franken said, and he vowed not to use the responses he did receive.
Franken, who has a new book out next month titled "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right," has long been a critic of Ashcroft and has frequently railed against other conservative politicians and newsmakers.
Last week, News Corp., the parent company of Fox News Channel and Foxnews.com, filed a lawsuit against Franken for using its trademark "fair and balanced" slogan in his book title and mimicking the look and style of two books published by Bill O'Reilly, a Fox News personality.
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid i hate republicans. i really fucking hate republicans.
Do you extend your hate of Republicans towards people from other countries with right leaning beliefs or do you limit yourself to home grown conservatism?
Basically I want to know whether you hate me also, and then wonder why?
well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D
I have to agree with BLT's statement about the conservatives from other countries. I've had experience with people of both sides, and on the whole the ones who aren't completely humorless in their beliefs are okay. It's the extremists on both sides who ruin it for me (kinda like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell ruin the idea of organized religion for me). I'm basically moderate, with liberal leanings simply because of the way I was raised (illegitimate child from a unwed couple, raised by a single mother --Not exactly what the GOp look for) and also because I WAS a Republican-leaning guy until I realized Rush was full of it, and the Clinton-Lewinsky scandel pretty confirmed my belief that the Modern Republican Party was nothing but a bunch of humorless assholes with nothing better to do than go snooping into a man's sex life (while Bin Laden was planning his attack on us, no less).
The two best Reps to serve as President were Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan doesn't even rate in my estimation.
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D>
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
"Son..don't even TRUST your mum"
This is the ONLY good advice my dad EVER gave me. :D
Now i don't even trust myself.But i have a sense of HUMOUR.
Rocket Mick givin' it straight....
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D> > >
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D> > > > > >
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Something tells me you two don't get along...
Mike, as I said, I used to be on YOUR side, but with age and growth (and shunning and peer pressure and endless taunts of "faggot!", "asshole!", and "loser!") come wisdom and I abandoned my Republican ways. John McCain's the only decent Rep left in the body politic.
Oh, and all apologies for starting yet *another* political debate. :)
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D> > > > > > > > > >
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Something tells me you two don't get along...
Mike, as I said, I used to be on YOUR side, but with age and growth (and shunning and peer pressure and endless taunts of "faggot!", "asshole!", and "loser!") come wisdom and I abandoned my Republican ways. John McCain's the only decent Rep left in the body politic.
Oh, and all apologies for starting yet *another* political debate. :)
I'm sorry you suffered at the hands of a bunch of a-holes. A person shouldn't have to. But, we (conservatives) are not all like that. I think that the both of us have been able to have spirited (even heated) debate about the issues of the day and come out respecting each other.
Anyway, if we all thought the same way, the world would be a dull place. :)
Peace
Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > > well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Something tells me you two don't get along...
Mike, as I said, I used to be on YOUR side, but with age and growth (and shunning and peer pressure and endless taunts of "faggot!", "asshole!", and "loser!") come wisdom and I abandoned my Republican ways. John McCain's the only decent Rep left in the body politic.
Oh, and all apologies for starting yet *another* political debate. :)
I'm sorry you suffered at the hands of a bunch of a-holes. A person shouldn't have to. But, we (conservatives) are not all like that. I think that the both of us have been able to have spirited (even heated) debate about the issues of the day and come out respecting each other.
Anyway, if we all thought the same way, the world would be a dull place. :)
Peace
Well, I didn't mean to imply that ALL the people who treated me like shit were conservative, but some had a rather uninformed and unpleasant interpretation of it. From what I've known of you, personnally, I can say while I disagree with you more than often, we get along and don't go beating each other about with pointy sticks (little MP reference for ya). I agree, if we all thought the same it'd be really, really dull....
Originally posted by Taboo # 7 John McCain's the only decent Rep left in the body politic.
Amen. The rest of the sorry lot are, to quote BLT, "clueless assholes."
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D
That's a relief Bizzie 
Having said that I do not think that the European right and the American Right are that similar. I do not like the mixture of politics and Faith which is so often present in the American right for instance.
Originally posted by Michael McDermott > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> > > > > > > Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid> > > well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D> > > > > >
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Not so sure about the high protein diet Mike, proteins are overrated in my opinion, in fact I would go for a low protein diet.
Originally posted by Budvar Huber
Originally posted by Michael McDermott
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid
Originally posted by Michael McDermott
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid well, i don't have any experience with right leaning persons from other countries so for now, you are not on my list. :D
Nice TRY at a save.... whatever size shoe you wear is still firmly planted in you pie hole.
another reason Republicans are clueless assholes.
The Kw it took to formulate that retort must have been very taxing on you. I suggest bed rest and a high protein diet for a speedy recovery. :)
Not so sure about the high protein diet Mike, proteins are overrated in my opinion, in fact I would go for a low protein diet.
Humberto, you may be right. Maybe a diet high in carbohydrates combined with plenty of electrolytes could the trick for our friend.
