There's a thread on Republique Numerique where the consensus is that New Order just wouldnt do a proper tour of France again. Maybe a one-off in Paris and a festival but something like the mini tour they did in 85 just wont happen again. Just before True Faith at Les Vielles Charrues last July Barney said 'we'll definitely have to tour France again'. What would it take? A new album release? A sponsor? Someone to come up with venues? More French sales? Or was he just talking out of his arse?
Getting New Order to play a gig
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Steve Lea wrote: There's a thread on Republique Numerique where the consensus is that New Order just wouldnt do a proper tour of France again. Maybe a one-off in Paris and a festival but something like the mini tour they did in 85 just wont happen again. Just before True Faith at Les Vielles Charrues last July Barney said 'we'll definitely have to tour France again'. What would it take? A new album release? A sponsor? Someone to come up with venues? More French sales? Or was he just talking out of his arse?
Probably the latter - if he toured everywhere he promised to, they'd be on the road 365 days a year! Having said that though, they did genuinely enjoy Les Vielles Charrues (as did all of us, the highlight of 2005's festivals for me).
I suppose that it would take a generous promotion offer from European promoters to get them to do a short tour of half a dozen dates or so, across France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Would be good news for us!!!
oldmonkey wrote: I suppose that it would take a generous promotion offer from European promoters to get them to do a short tour of half a dozen dates or so, across France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Would be good news for us!!!
Heaven - for both people that live in those countries and the rest of Europe as well as the (relatively) low cost of trekking round Europe for us Brits - bring it on!
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Nick King wrote: Heaven - for both people that live in those countries and the rest of Europe as well as the (relatively) low cost of trekking round Europe for us Brits - bring it on!
Though I think we all now know that Europe ain't exactly 1st, or even 2nd, on their list of priorities this year. ![]()
oldmonkey wrote: What are their priorities then?
Has London or the band said anything about what they might be doing in 2006? Someone on NOOL must have an inside track..? Who are the promoters in Europe for a band of their size and market? Just asking cos I dont have a clue...
oldmonkey wrote: What are their priorities then?
Two countries which ain't in Europe. Don't think it's a secret but I'll be blowed* if I'm the one to say it.
(*) Not literally, obviously.
Who'll blow me if I spill the beans?
I promise not to come in your mouth.
And the badge is in the post!
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just tell them the past 25 years never happened, and that they can only play JD songs, they'll be in the car and driving to Nowhereistan in 20 minutes.
You mean tell 'em they can charge £40 a head and will only be expected to play for 40 mins with no encores......
I have the email of their tour agent.. I should seriously ask them someday how much it would cost to get them to play in front of a "exclusive fanclub crowd" for NOOL Day ;)
I'm quite sure many people here would pay good money to have a more intimate concert with the band... I don't know if they would let us pick which songs they should play (out of the ones they rehearsed since 2 years of course)
Hehe.
Type of thing you sell tickets before and go ahead with it and just pick a lot of insurance in case it's cancelled.
Spotnick wrote: I have the email of their tour agent.. I should seriously ask them someday how much it would cost to get them to play in front of a "exclusive fanclub crowd" for NOOL Day
Nic, PLEASE stop using the word 'Fanclub'!
We are not 13-year old schoolgirls!
Er, well, not all of us. ![]()
Spotnick wrote: I have the email of their tour agent.. I should seriously ask them someday how much it would cost to get them to play in front of a "exclusive fanclub crowd" for NOOL Day ;)
I'm quite sure many people here would pay good money to have a more intimate concert with the band... I don't know if they would let us pick which songs they should play (out of the ones they rehearsed since 2 years of course)
Hehe.
Type of thing you sell tickets before and go ahead with it and just pick a lot of insurance in case it's cancelled.
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BIGINOIL wrote: Who'll blow me if I spill the beans?
I promise not to come in your mouth.
And the badge is in the post!
Got the badges you posted through for Mand - cheers!
Spotnick wrote: I have the email of their tour agent.. I should seriously ask them someday how much it would cost to get them to play in front of a "exclusive fanclub crowd" for NOOL Day ;)
I'm quite sure many people here would pay good money to have a more intimate concert with the band... I don't know if they would let us pick which songs they should play (out of the ones they rehearsed since 2 years of course)
Hehe.
Type of thing you sell tickets before and go ahead with it and just pick a lot of insurance in case it's cancelled.
Would be BRILLIANT
Some newspapers have run articles to show how much is needed for Stars to perform for private audiences. They've got to be cheaper than Elton John! And i'm not saying Elton John is better than New Order, before somebody jumps!
Somebody really needs to find out! We might be able to have a whipround!
I think if New Order were available/afforable for a private audience, Mr Sultan would've booked them a dozen times by now. ![]()
Er, or maybe he has?!
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Al Jarvis wrote:
Nic, PLEASE stop using the word 'Fanclub'!
I think, if Nic would send us member cards with a lot of privilegies, it would be ok. :D
confusion wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Nic, PLEASE stop using the word 'Fanclub'!
I think, if Nic would send us member cards with a lot of privilegies, it would be ok. :D
Naughty! ;)
ARe the USA their Priority ?Are european countries too small for them now ? NO never did a real tour in France...Why ? Not enough fans,i suppose.The fans 'phenomenon isn't very important here and N.O is still a cult band,in a certain way,even if their audience is now bigger than it was in the eighties. I can't really imagine a N.O tour with 3 or 4 live dates in my country.It has allways been a big regret for me:( and i don't think it will change in the future.
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: ARe the USA their Priority ?Are european countries too small for them now ? NO never did a real tour in France...Why ? Not enough fans,i suppose.The fans 'phenomenon isn't very important here and N.O is still a cult band,in a certain way,even if their audience is now bigger than it was in the eighties. I can't really imagine a N.O tour with 3 or 4 live dates in my country.It has allways been a big regret for me:( and i don't think it will change in the future.
you said Hooky needed to lose weight, for that sin, France should NEVER get another gig.... :angry2:
But Jean-Noël think that the all band should loose some pounds… except Steve maybe ?
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If they're touring they will not have to go on diet !
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You'll never see a fat drummer. (except maybe a jazz session dude who can hit 300 beats to bar and do so from the wrists down entirely without breaking a sweat)
5mins behind even an electronic kit and I'm like "just gimme my bass back NOW!"
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: ARe the USA their Priority ?
No, the USA is not their priority in 2006.
It's not Europe and it's not the USA.
Al Jarvis wrote:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: ARe the USA their Priority ?
No, the USA is not their priority in 2006.
It's not Europe and it's not the USA.
I think, it's the same story as the get ready tour.
- USA (2001 + 2005)
- Europe (2001 + 2005)
and the next year
- Australia and Newsealand. (2002 + 2006)
Correct me, if I'm false, Al. :)
Al Jarvis wrote:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: ARe the USA their Priority ?
No, the USA is not their priority in 2006.
It's not Europe and it's not the USA.
I'm trying to discover this answer decoding the colours on the new Vikings badge. If I'm not mistaken, the colours mean A O (left) B P (right). I have no idea what you're trying to say with that, but I hope the B is for Brazil. ![]()
Think: (1) America, which ain't North, and (2) the East, which isn't close.
But this is all hyperbole and hearsay at present anyways. As it stands, I don't think anything is set in stone. They were supposed to be having a Business Meeting (ie. nice cuppa tea and a sitdown) after MEN to decide what they're gonna do this year. Perhaps we'll get more news soon?!
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: I have the email of their tour agent.. I should seriously ask them someday how much it would cost to get them to play in front of a "exclusive fanclub crowd" for NOOL Day
Nic, PLEASE stop using the word 'Fanclub'!
We are not 13-year old schoolgirls!
Er, well, not all of us.
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Sorry, I would restrain from using that work from now on and use "fan community", is that ok with you? ;)
Anyways I did change the word fanclub for community on this website a year ago or so.
Al Jarvis wrote: Think: (1) America, which ain't North, and (2) the East, which isn't close.
But this is all hyperbole and hearsay at present anyways. As it stands, I don't think anything is set in stone. They were supposed to be having a Business Meeting (ie. nice cuppa tea and a sitdown) after MEN to decide what they're gonna do this year. Perhaps we'll get more news soon?!
Ah stop teasing them will you... ;)
Is it really a state secret? If so, I'll shut up even though I was told what it is...
I have hopes they will extended it to actually come back over here... I just don't get how they managed to miss the opportunity to make a 2nd show in NYC when the first one sold out in less than an hour...
Al Jarvis wrote: Think: (1) America, which ain't North, and (2) the East, which isn't close.
But this is all hyperbole and hearsay at present anyways. As it stands, I don't think anything is set in stone. They were supposed to be having a Business Meeting (ie. nice cuppa tea and a sitdown) after MEN to decide what they're gonna do this year. Perhaps we'll get more news soon?!
AL you're in Gods 'secrets, aren't u ?
but..Your BADGE ISN'T IN MY POSTBOX YET
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But..Hum...if they wnat to play roman arenas, please let me know, cos we've got here something more beautiful than the Rome Coliséum....
and i don't want to see Muse or Genesis or Sting or frantz Ferdinand again!( so please New Order!)
and...on the French Republic forum i've read a few rumors...I wonder if they are right![]()
this is just to increase the pressure
regards,AL,
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: but..Your BADGE ISN'T IN MY POSTBOX YET
I'm a lazy sod when it comes to these. Will send 'em out this week! Promise.
Al Jarvis wrote: Think: (1) America, which ain't North, and (2) the East, which isn't close.
So I was spot on with North Korea?!?!?!
about the rumors on the french forum: S... A...., J...., e... dates and I..of W... 'f.... ? ( hum with Bob Dylan 'return ,just like in 1969:D ) But : do they really want to be on tour this year ? ?? this is another question - i have no answer to this.
PS: a french fan told me to keep this strange new secret:\ohwell: so some letters are cleaned up![]()
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: about the rumors on the french forum: S... A...., J...., e... dates and I..of W... 'f.... ?
Don't know where some of these rumours come from, like SA and the IoW. First time I've actually heard them. But I guess they'll be offered a lot of stuff and it's just down to them what they fancy and what the renumerations are like?
Al Jarvis wrote:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: about the rumors on the french forum: S... A...., J...., e... dates and I..of W... 'f.... ?
Don't know where some of these rumours come from, like SA and the IoW. First time I've actually heard them. But I guess they'll be offered a lot of stuff and it's just down to them what they fancy and what the renumerations are like?
i'm just like u...I don't know where the rumours are coming from ???maybe it's just a joke:(
thanks for the link . As much as i can understand things, dates and venues for N.O '2006 tour are just rumours RRRRRUUUUUMMMMOUUURS- nothing more.(point final):\ohwell:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: thanks for the link . As much as i can understand things, dates and venues for N.O '2006 tour are just rumours RRRRRUUUUUMMMMOUUURS- nothing more.(point final):\ohwell:
What did you expected exactly ?
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That's a good start…
*Thanks for the link*
I think it is about time for them to rescedule the 'secret gig' at Bodium Castle! a private gig for the NOOL 'community'
BIGINOIL wrote: EFESTIVALS - New Order Rumours
Listed as a rumour for IOW festival. I hope so as i already have my ticket! Aint gonna happen though...
I'll tell you now they won't be doing Reading or Leeds. Different promoters.....but V may be a goer. Should I rephrase that? ![]()
oldmonkey wrote: I'll tell you now they won't be doing Reading or Leeds. Different promoters.....but V may be a goer. Should I rephrase that?
Yep! Are you saying they're defo playing the V Festival?! ![]()
Al Jarvis wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: I'll tell you now they won't be doing Reading or Leeds. Different promoters.....but V may be a goer. Should I rephrase that?
Yep! Are you saying they're defo playing the V Festival?!
Only if it's in May! Learned my lesson with that one last year, ended up losing £20 on the ticket!
oldmonkey wrote: Only if it's in May! Learned my lesson with that one last year, ended up losing £20 on the ticket!
I ended up even forgetting to sell mine!
So, what you're saying is ... they're gigging in May?! ![]()
When Al and JG post their holiday schedules thats when we'll know where NO are playing, and when.
Al Jarvis wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: Only if it's in May! Learned my lesson with that one last year, ended up losing £20 on the ticket!
I ended up even forgetting to sell mine!
So, what you're saying is ... they're gigging in May?!
What I'm saying is that they may be gigging, they may not be. Depends on the outcome of the "business meeting". Different UK festivals are run by different promoters, and SJM promoted the last NO gigs at Brixton and Manchester, there is possibly some mileage in thinking that they will go with the SJM festivals this summer, i.e. V rather than Reading.
Sod's law that we book NOOL day for the same day as an NO gig though. Would be nice to hear back from Rebecca as to what involvement they wish to have in the day, not expecting them to play, but they expressed the interest in the first place.
rusty junker squawker wrote: When Al and JG post their holiday schedules thats when we'll know where NO are playing, and when.
JG's in India next month! ![]()
He said something about 'cricket' but I guess that could be code?! ![]()
Al Jarvis wrote:
JG's in India next month!
He said something about 'cricket' but I guess that could be code?!
Aint that east but not close, well from blighty anyway.
rusty junker squawker wrote: Aint that east but not close, well from blighty anyway.
He mentioned something about Goa too?!
Or did he say he was just after 'a bit of a goer'?! ![]()
Al Jarvis wrote:
JEAN NOEL BOUET wrote: about the rumors on the french forum: S... A...., J...., e... dates and I..of W... 'f.... ?
Don't know where some of these rumours come from, like SA and the IoW. First time I've actually heard them. But I guess they'll be offered a lot of stuff and it's just down to them what they fancy and what the renumerations are like?
I think the RSA (South Africa) story was a misunderstanding, it was actually the other SA (South America)that was meant i.e Brazil. South Africa has two good venues, the Sundome in Jo'burg and the Good Hope Centre in Cape Town, but probably not enough by way of target audience I'm afraid.
Al Jarvis wrote:
rusty junker squawker wrote: Aint that east but not close, well from blighty anyway.
He mentioned something about Goa too?!
Or did he say he was just after 'a bit of a goer'?!
You wanna watch that JG F*cker I'm tellin ya... well shifty. Never trust a man who wear a scarf in summer. Shifty specs too.....
Oi Oi Saveloy! Any danger me old china of keepin oneofyerluvelybadgesin yerrocketferanolmucker.....and not that daft gezzer from up near F*kin Chorley.....alright!? ![]()
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oldmonkey wrote: I'll tell you now they won't be doing Reading or Leeds. Different promoters.....but V may be a goer. Should I rephrase that?
They said the same in 2005....
Anyways, I want to see them, but not in a fookin festival, so can they please do something so I can travel to England and know it enough in advance for once... ![]()