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I am sure i can help you and jarvo with floor space in my front room Mr Legge or gordys sofa, bed to ness and greg of course. weather may be ok for a boat trip the next day for a select few play up Pompey top of the tree at the moment a great way to rember my fortieth b day last sunday. I will try and leave work as early as poss on friday afternoon for tiffin and tea

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Just to say, anyone who's in two minds as to going to Portsmouth to see Re:Order - sort both your minds out and get down there. They were EXCELLENT last night.

I took a few pics and will supply a review in the next 24 hours or so.

Oh yeah - what happened to Chemical Al? One minute he was there, the next, not a sausage. Or a Chemical Al... :crazy:

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I was there, mate! You couldn't see me for looking as I was down the back near the (closed) bar. I enjoyed Re:Order last night - they were damned good. Sorry I had to scoot off straight after but the dubious attractions of Hampton Court were calling. Let's just say it was a long night!

I was slightly surprised that there weren't more folk hopping about like good 'uns during Re:Order's set. Indeed, most seem to behave in a statue-like manner, even during Blue Monday! Is this the great southern reserve manifest in glorious Kingston?

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That's the New Malden Order for you ;-)

RO were quality. Making good use of the audience provided props (a bar of chocolate) during Blue Monday. Their version of EGG was better than the real thing.

Warren's other band Greenhaus are playing at the Camden Underworld on Saturday Nov 4th. With Client :love:

Good to see Mike & Co, Chris, Mr L Fringe and of course Warren and Paul. Made my excuses while The Smyths were playing so sorry Will, didn't get a chance to catch up.

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Just a quick note to say a huge thank you to everyone that turned up last night a made the evening such a goodun. Also a huge shouts out to Chris for taking the photos Heres to Pompey I'm looking forward to this one as I will be on home turf...well nearly home........Southampton Cheers guys & girls hope to see you in Pompey

Anyone that is interested the setlist is on our website http://www.thieveslikeus.co.uk/inside/gigs27.html

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looking forward to seeing the show in pompey. I would really appreciate if you will play thieves at the wedge as i have only ever seen it once in 1986 by the real group in 50 gigs i been to. it is a great venue, if you really live up the road i would keep it quite mate next friday.

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pompeyorder wrote: if you really live up the road i would keep it quite mate next friday.

Ho Ho point taken... Not any more moved up to the big smoke about 4 years ago...

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warrenf wrote: I'm looking forward to this one as I will be on home turf...well nearly home........Southampton

Warren

You've got Mail !

From a fellow Ex-Hamble School Nooler !

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Great Night again fellas.

EGG and Perfect Kiss were highlights for me. All you need now is an autocue for Will for authenticity!

Good to see some fellow NOOLers there too.

I can't make Portsmouth next week, but to anyone that can I suggest that you make the effort and get there.

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A great night and congrats to the band. I just wish that more people were into it. I've rarely seen more of a statuesque crowd! EGG was top and the whole experience was authentic, even down to the cowbell bits and changing the lyrics!

Short of calling us all southern cunts or forgetting the words, it couldn't have been much better. Good luck to the band for their future gigs and you've any back in this manor, I'll try and be there.

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warrenf wrote:

pompeyorder wrote: if you really live up the road i would keep it quite mate next friday.

Ho Ho point taken... Not any more moved up to the big smoke about 4 years ago...

The Scummer Drummer?! :eek3:

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Chemical wrote: A great night and congrats to the band. I just wish that more people were into it. I've rarely seen more of a statuesque crowd! EGG was top and the whole experience was authentic, even down to the cowbell bits and changing the lyrics!

Short of calling us all southern cunts or forgetting the words, it couldn't have been much better. Good luck to the band for their future gigs and you've any back in this manor, I'll try and be there.

Al - take it you never saw New Order in the early days then? It was JUST like the early days - a few tapping feet, 2 people dancing and the other buggers looking bemused :) *lol*

Anyway, sorry for the delay guys, going to upload the pics now - been 'otherwise engaged' sure Al will understand what I mean ;) will put up a review sometime tomorrow.

Cheers all :)

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Okay, FINALLY managed to get me bum in gear - photos for all to see are HERE

And a review? Well...

I walked into the Grey Horse in Kingston Upon Thames - a venue previously graced in the past by bands such as Bauhaus, Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton - don't believe they'd play a tiny little suburban hole like that? Well they did - a long time ago, believe me. A week before, I'd burned a compilation of the best New Order tunes (in my opinion) for a friend. She'd listened to it and wanted to come to this gig. Just as we were going in, I could hear the start of 'Thieves Like Us' and thought that the evening already sounded promising! Hadn't heard that one live in ages... by the time that RE ORDER were halfway through 'Regret' I was 'hooked' - Kelly even whispered to me, 'This is New Order like on the CD right?' Bless... She's a Kiwi and a bit too young to grasp the whole concept - but that's a huge compliment to RE ORDER, in fact, if I closed my eyes, I could imagine that it really was my favourite band playing 6 feet away. After opening my eyes again, it occurred that even the stage set up was identical to New Order. Keyboards/rhythm guitar on the left as you look at the stage, bass on the right, etc. I last heard Everything's Gone Green in Liverpool and actually RE ORDER almost (yes, almost) out-did New Order with their rendition. To me, it sounded more like that infamous gig back in Tolworth - 3 miles away - oh so many years ago, but didn't ramble as much! The keyboards on this were particularly good, matching New Order's sound perfectly. The next track, 'The Perfect Kiss' was one I was particularly looking forward to, being a bass player. I certainly wasn't disappointed. For certain songs in this gig we were even treated to the sight of a Shergold 6 string - that's dedication for you *lol* The Perfect Kiss swirled around the room, and glancing at the audience, it reminded me of some of my earlier experiences of New Order. The young, the older, the 'indies' the 'average' – it looked like everyone was represented in some way. Then Crystal. Yet another for which I have a soft spot – it was the first live New Order song that my ex, Tricia had ever heard. RE ORDER’s version only suffered slightly though – amazingly, through the lack of female backing vocals, something I never thought I’d say. Still, a good cover and played with skill and enthusiasm. How about a backing track next time lads? Ceremony was next. To my mind, played a little too fast, which is just my opinion, but it always sounded so much better if taken slowly and lasting longer, yeah, okay, a bit like sex. But that’s what ‘Ceremony’ is – the New Order equivalent of sex - intense, intimate, for those who know it well and want to savour every minute. It’s both Joy Division and New Order – the best aspects of your ex and current partner mixed. Shit, I’m sounding like Morley… Oh well, the ‘sex’ was over a little too quickly! Yeah, the comments are coming… ‘True Faith’ was a delight, with all the bounciness of the real thing and carried the audience to the point of actually dancing – well a few of them anyway! I’ve wanted New Order to play ‘Subculture’ live again for ages, so I was particularly happy that RE ORDER fulfilled that wish. Great to see the guys going through it and enjoying it – something that we’ve only recently been getting from New Order again (okay, since 2000, but that’s recent!). Looking at the band, you sort of wonder how they get that kind of huge sound in a small venue, but they did. Steve may be able to explain *lol* It could have been a mid 80’s New Order gig at this point! New Order should take a leaf out of these guys’ book – they actually played a track from ‘Technique’ – ‘Vanishing Point’. And they played it very well – reminded me of a booze and drugs fuelled holiday in a certain Spanish speaking island some 17 years ago! But that’s partly what RE ORDER are about – it’s nostalgia with the ‘insider’ knowledge of what many of the fans want. And THAT is what makes them so special. Then yet another favourite – I said to Kelly at the time, this is ‘BLT’ she misheard me and asked if I was hungry… Damn Kiwis… she loved it though – ‘Such a sweet song,’ she said and yes, I have to agree, it was sweetly played too. A minor gripe about the band is that the sequenced tracks are just a little bit off from the originals, but that’s totally forgivable when they kick in and everything blends together in a wave of what would otherwise be perfection. The singer’s voice was great on this one. Actually very close to Barney all the way through the gig, even down to changing certain lyrics, which I think were lost on the majority of the audience. I’m sure Johnny, Martin and Al caught a few of the funnies, while many just enjoyed the whole experience. NOOL members would have loved the next track and found it SO familiar – ‘The Village’. When the guys were playing this one, the images from David Church’s video entry for Community 2 were running through my head – that combined with the music was actually quite a moving experience. Right, okay. A track you’d expect to hear as an encore, but no – the Mars Bar theme was next. Spot on programming and performance, again with a few altered lyrics, made it one of the highlights and I must admit, like many, that I am usually a bit fed up with ‘Blue Monday’. Not this time. Another funny was an audience member supplying the band with a bar of Cadbury’s Fruit ‘n’ Nut – Mars must be fuming… Then my favourite track of the evening – ‘Temptation’. It ‘rocked’ to use an over-used expression! Lost Kelly halfway through as she had to get back to work – shame, as she missed something special. Closing my eyes again, it really was like listening to New Order and a great way to have an interim fix before Bournemouth and Wembley. It really did seem like the set was ending too soon – even after 13 or 14 songs, so I was wondering what the last would be. I hoped for ‘Transmission’ or ‘Shadowplay’ but was actually pleasantly surprised with ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’. A great cover, played with both skill AND enthusiasm, to my delight, the bass player WASN’T yelling ‘Come on’ through most of it. Restraint can be a wonderful thing – reminds me of the S&M comment earlier in their set! Even though there were plenty of shouts for an encore and a far louder than usual degree of applause for The Grey Horse, the guys left the stage. A real shame as I’m sure that most of the audience would have happily listened to the whole lot again. Still, there was another band waiting to play and I guess it would have been cruel to be the ‘support’ (by the toss of a coin apparently) and still blow them off the stage – no, don’t go there. But DO go to see RE ORDER if they are playing anywhere near you. These guys are fantastic – each one of them performs to almost the point where it’s unnerving. There are so many cheesy puns I could use to end this review, but I won’t. Instead I’ll just say a heartfelt ‘Thanks for a great gig’ to RE ORDER.

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Excellent read Christopher. I hopefully will be attending the gig in St Helens around the beginning of December. Looking forward to it.

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I could hardly put it any better than my good friend Mr Nash has except to say that, should the Re:Order chaps be playing near you, do toddle along and have the large stuff.

I could hardly believe it when I saw the bassist had a Shergold sixer and some of those basslines are well tricky. Fair play to all of them for really nailing the tunes. If anyone from the Order had wandered in, I dare say they'd have been chuffed to bits. My minor earlier carping about lack of dancing etc is down to me expecting a lot of folk!

Re:Order do the business and this half of the New Malden Order look forward to seeing them back in the manor soon.

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Chemical wrote: My minor earlier carping about lack of dancing etc is down to me expecting a lot of folk!

funnily enough we recently got a request from a university student union for us to come and play a gig because they "intend to showcase some of the very best contemporary folk artists"

we have started work on re: fining the setlist appropriately.

while I'm here, let me say a big thank you to everyone who made it to kingston and an especially big nod of gratitude for the very kind and supportive words subsequently. cheers all. it's now our tribute obligation to completely bollocks up portsmouth. authenticity demands it.

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Facsimile wrote: it's now our tribute obligation to completely bollocks up portsmouth. authenticity demands it.

Please, just get Ceremony outta the way early doors.

My voice has been fcuked for a coupla weeks now.

And I don't to aggravate it too much heckling the entire set. :uhoh:

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El Jarvo wrote:

Facsimile wrote: it's now our tribute obligation to completely bollocks up portsmouth. authenticity demands it.

Please, just get Ceremony outta the way early doors.

My voice has been fcuked for a coupla weeks now.

And I don't to aggravate it too much heckling the entire set. :uhoh:

it wouldn't be the first time if we did that and you still heckled for it throughout the rest of the set...

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Facsimile wrote:

El Jarvo wrote:

Facsimile wrote: it's now our tribute obligation to completely bollocks up portsmouth. authenticity demands it.

Please, just get Ceremony outta the way early doors.

My voice has been fcuked for a coupla weeks now.

And I don't to aggravate it too much heckling the entire set. :uhoh:

it wouldn't be the first time if we did that and you still heckled for it throughout the rest of the set...

Oh, yeah.

Play it 1st and 2nd then, and I'll shut up. :uhoh:

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Yup, it wouldn't be an authentic Order tribute scenario without fuck-ups along the way! Next up you must rig the sequencer to bugger up the songs and the synths must drift out of tune occasionally (difficult with modern gear). You've got the altered lyrics thing sorted but now you must move on to equipment failures, playing occasionally out-of-tune and then berating the audience. This is the real key to authenticity.

How boring it must be to be a member of a trib act for someone like Dire Straits or The Eagles where everything has to be note and time-perfect and there's no room for anything less than an anamatronic ersatz perfectionism!

Fair play to your bassist: I spotted the odd bum note in some of Hooky's more labrythine basslines but I think they'd defeat almost every other bassist apart from the Hookster himself...and he wrote them!

They say that Jimmy Page forgot a good deal of his earlier guitar parts for Led Zep, such was the state of his brain after many years of indulgence. He had to re-learn his parts to Stairway To Heaven from a record but I could've told him to go into any music store of a Saturday instead (muso's joke).

Best of luck for Pompey. Knock those south coast folk dead!

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Chemical wrote:

Fair play to your bassist: I spotted the odd bum note in some of Hooky's more labrythine basslines but I think they'd defeat almost every other bassist apart from the Hookster himself...and he wrote them!

Glad you spotted them, you don't realise how hard it is for me to get them in there:thumb:

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pompeyorder wrote: I am sure i can help you and jarvo with floor space in my front room, Mr Legge or gordys sofa,

Cheers, Gary. See ya tomorrow :thumb:

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I am dragging a few mates along from down the road.

Looking forward to seeing you guys tonight :thumb:

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See you all tonight - Greg, Al and me setting off in about an hour for early drinking!

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Jealous, wish I was going. Have a good time peeps

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Ness Order wrote: See you all tonight - Greg, Al and me setting off in about an hour for early drinking!

Looks like Mr & Mrs Old Blue and I will be playing catch-up then...

Chris :D

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Missy Jem wrote: Jealous, wish I was going. Have a good time peeps

In fairness Jemma they are playing up here in a couple of months. And the Witchwood in January, and thena few dates in April. So that should keep you entertained.

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I know but I still wish I was going.

I'll have to settle for the World Famous Horwich Beer Festival Instead.

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That sounds absolutely fantastic apart from the "Horwich" bit.

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Uncle Liam wrote: That sounds absolutely fantastic apart from the "Horwich" bit.

Oi, don't knock it til you've tried it :nod:

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