Newcastle Tonight

First ever post so please bare with me. My first ever concert was the Deeside leisure centre in 82. Seen my favourite band scores of times since then, this is the 3rd time this tour. Most definitely the last. My God how bad they were tonight. Is Barney just topping up his pension fund with no regard to who's paying into it. I've seen many a fantastic gig with the band performing shite but it was always fantastic in a New Order kind of way. Not tonight bland, boring, predictable. A few adjectives to start, Sumners voice was non existent, Gillian stood and did her ironing, Steve (a quality drummer) did his best. Phil and Tom were might as well had not turned up. I understand why the band have re formed, non are getting younger and the bills need to be paid, but for Gods sake have a bit if respect for your long suffering fans. I was at the Troxy in December and thought you were awesome, but what has happened since then. I have had many a great night watching this band, Hacienda, GMex, MEN to name a few but guys, it's time to call it a day. In the last 30 years I have danced, sang, raved, partied and sobered up with you. Let's call it a day whilst still remembered fondly. Put to bed your differences. Grow old gracefully, remember the great times, Barney, you and I, Tommy Ducks 84! Quit while your ahead, no more tribute nights to yourselves, it doesn't work.

New Order have shaped my life for 30 years. It's time to stop. I walked down the isle to Ceremony. Let me remember you as you are, the BEST Rock and Roll band ever. Goodnight and God Bless

George wrote: First ever post so please bare with me. My first ever concert was the Deeside leisure centre in 82. Seen my favourite band scores of times since then, this is the 3rd time this tour. Most definitely the last. My God how bad they were tonight. Is Barney just topping up his pension fund with no regard to who's paying into it. I've seen many a fantastic gig with the band performing shite but it was always fantastic in a New Order kind of way. Not tonight bland, boring, predictable. A few adjectives to start, Sumners voice was non existent, Gillian stood and did her ironing, Steve (a quality drummer) did his best. Phil and Tom were might as well had not turned up. I understand why the band have re formed, non are getting younger and the bills need to be paid, but for Gods sake have a bit if respect for your long suffering fans. I was at the Troxy in December and thought you were awesome, but what has happened since then. I have had many a great night watching this band, Hacienda, GMex, MEN to name a few but guys, it's time to call it a day. In the last 30 years I have danced, sang, raved, partied and sobered up with you. Let's call it a day whilst still remembered fondly. Put to bed your differences. Grow old gracefully, remember the great times, Barney, you and I, Tommy Ducks 84! Quit while your ahead, no more tribute nights to yourselves, it doesn't work.

New Order have shaped my life for 30 years. It's time to stop. I walked down the isle to Ceremony. Let me remember you as you are, the BEST Rock and Roll band ever. Goodnight and God Bless

Agreed George, you sound as gutted as I am

paulaf wrote:

George wrote: First ever post so please bare with me. My first ever concert was the Deeside leisure centre in 82. Seen my favourite band scores of times since then, this is the 3rd time this tour. Most definitely the last. My God how bad they were tonight. Is Barney just topping up his pension fund with no regard to who's paying into it. I've seen many a fantastic gig with the band performing shite but it was always fantastic in a New Order kind of way. Not tonight bland, boring, predictable. A few adjectives to start, Sumners voice was non existent, Gillian stood and did her ironing, Steve (a quality drummer) did his best. Phil and Tom were might as well had not turned up. I understand why the band have re formed, non are getting younger and the bills need to be paid, but for Gods sake have a bit if respect for your long suffering fans. I was at the Troxy in December and thought you were awesome, but what has happened since then. I have had many a great night watching this band, Hacienda, GMex, MEN to name a few but guys, it's time to call it a day. In the last 30 years I have danced, sang, raved, partied and sobered up with you. Let's call it a day whilst still remembered fondly. Put to bed your differences. Grow old gracefully, remember the great times, Barney, you and I, Tommy Ducks 84! Quit while your ahead, no more tribute nights to yourselves, it doesn't work.

New Order have shaped my life for 30 years. It's time to stop. I walked down the isle to Ceremony. Let me remember you as you are, the BEST Rock and Roll band ever. Goodnight and God Bless

Agreed George, you sound as gutted as I am

May 8: O2 Academy, Newcastle, England

Even though we haven't entered into any meaningful dialogue, I have had the pleasant opportunity to meet a number of you noolers over the years:- Jarvo - Newcastle 2005 ish Vikings badge will be treasured Johnny - Hyde, Finsbury, Liverpool.. If you werent at those 3 then I was more drunk than I thought Big Clive & Friends... Barcelona, (behind the brambles) Shug:- would like to have met the most stereotypical jock for a drink (No offence intended) German contingent for only ever being gentlemen in and around the mosh pit.

Tonights gig has made me realise that it is time to move onto pastures new.... In my opinion it was worse than awful ! The sound quality to be polite was very poor (I know Barney wasn't happy, but he wasn't paying £70 a ticket. I know it was £35, but our lass cryed off poorly)

I left early (during Temptation which sounded like the highlight of the show by the way), cos I couldn't take anymore. Was told while on the train that only Blue Monday was played as an encore with Barney pulling the rest of the band off the stage while they were waiting to start the second number of the encore.

Anyway, the train journey allowed me to reminisce of the 28 years spent following the band, from an 18 year old at the Sunderland Mayfair of 1984 to the present day, it has been, in the main a blast. We have travelled far & wide, from Glasgow to Barcelona - Hyde Park to Finsbury - Newcastle to Liverpool & every weekend inbetween coming home pissed up to turn the stack stereo system up to 11 so that all the neighbours wonder who has the green eyes ! I'm not ashamed to admit it, but a very misty eyed 46 year old with sunken shoulders exited the train at Durham station. Am I being over critical ? AOC - 1963 - Temptation - 586 - BLT...... It was full of classics, it should have been a one to remember, but instead it is the one which brings my love affair to an end. I should also say that even though I have agreed with everything that has been said about Hooky leaving the band ie he is dispensable & long live New Order, unfortunately & no disrespect at all to Tom Chapman........... he isn't & Hooky not being there is a massive MASSIVE miss. This of course is only my opinion & I wish all of you many more happy times with the band.... God Bless

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paulaf wrote:

paulaf wrote:

George wrote: First ever post so please bare with me. My first ever concert was the Deeside leisure centre in 82. Seen my favourite band scores of times since then, this is the 3rd time this tour. Most definitely the last. My God how bad they were tonight. Is Barney just topping up his pension fund with no regard to who's paying into it. I've seen many a fantastic gig with the band performing shite but it was always fantastic in a New Order kind of way. Not tonight bland, boring, predictable. A few adjectives to start, Sumners voice was non existent, Gillian stood and did her ironing, Steve (a quality drummer) did his best. Phil and Tom were might as well had not turned up. I understand why the band have re formed, non are getting younger and the bills need to be paid, but for Gods sake have a bit if respect for your long suffering fans. I was at the Troxy in December and thought you were awesome, but what has happened since then. I have had many a great night watching this band, Hacienda, GMex, MEN to name a few but guys, it's time to call it a day. In the last 30 years I have danced, sang, raved, partied and sobered up with you. Let's call it a day whilst still remembered fondly. Put to bed your differences. Grow old gracefully, remember the great times, Barney, you and I, Tommy Ducks 84! Quit while your ahead, no more tribute nights to yourselves, it doesn't work.

New Order have shaped my life for 30 years. It's time to stop. I walked down the isle to Ceremony. Let me remember you as you are, the BEST Rock and Roll band ever. Goodnight and God Bless

Agreed George, you sound as gutted as I am

May 8: O2 Academy, Newcastle, England

Even though we haven't entered into any meaningful dialogue, I have had the pleasant opportunity to meet a number of you noolers over the years:- Jarvo - Newcastle 2005 ish Vikings badge will be treasured Johnny - Hyde, Finsbury, Liverpool.. If you werent at those 3 then I was more drunk than I thought Big Clive & Friends... Barcelona, (behind the brambles) Shug:- would like to have met the most stereotypical jock for a drink (No offence intended) German contingent for only ever being gentlemen in and around the mosh pit.

Tonights gig has made me realise that it is time to move onto pastures new.... In my opinion it was worse than awful ! The sound quality to be polite was very poor (I know Barney wasn't happy, but he wasn't paying £70 a ticket. I know it was £35, but our lass cryed off poorly)

I left early (during Temptation which sounded like the highlight of the show by the way), cos I couldn't take anymore. Was told while on the train that only Blue Monday was played as an encore with Barney pulling the rest of the band off the stage while they were waiting to start the second number of the encore.

Anyway, the train journey allowed me to reminisce of the 28 years spent following the band, from an 18 year old at the Sunderland Mayfair of 1984 to the present day, it has been, in the main a blast. We have travelled far & wide, from Glasgow to Barcelona - Hyde Park to Finsbury - Newcastle to Liverpool & every weekend inbetween coming home pissed up to turn the stack stereo system up to 11 so that all the neighbours wonder who has the green eyes ! I'm not ashamed to admit it, but a very misty eyed 46 year old with sunken shoulders exited the train at Durham station. Am I being over critical ? AOC - 1963 - Temptation - 586 - BLT...... It was full of classics, it should have been a one to remember, but instead it is the one which brings my love affair to an end. I should also say that even though I have agreed with everything that has been said about Hooky leaving the band ie he is dispensable & long live New Order, unfortunately & no disrespect at all to Tom Chapman........... he isn't & Hooky not being there is a massive MASSIVE miss. This of course is only my opinion & I wish all of you many more happy times with the band.... God Bless

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Bloody Hell, we've all moved on 30 years, or are you stull the same person you were 30 years ago? I did 5 out of these 8 shows and whilst Barney's voice was(is) crap, forgot the Melodica at Usher Hall and lyrics. It was these things that made me realise why I love em. The pre gig meet ups were as good as always.

Roll on Hyde Park

So, apparently they were 'awesome' at The Troxy, but last night were so rubbish they should give up etc etc. Sounds like the 80s all over again.

I kind of felt like knocking it all on the head after the Birmingham Ballroom gig, had thoughts that i might not bother ever going to see them again . But then had a last minute decision to go to the Brixton Thursday show and had a great time, a brilliant craic down at the front

That's just the thing though - to each his own... I was massively depressed with Troxy gig, but I think with hindsight that was because I was seated and had just seen Re: Order right before... Wasn't sure about seeing in the Birmingham but absolutely loved it, though I know others thought the sound was crap there as well... Even if they don't change the set around any more, at least there's an element of unpredictability there in terms of the quality of performance... And as Mike says the meet ups beforehand are worth going for alone...

Snorri xxx

Am I the only one a teeny bit excited that they decided to move Blue Monday back out into the encore?

It's a radical change to the recent setlist(s)!

Next gig is May 18th - wonder if they're gonna add any more Joy Division tracks to the set? Somehow, I just can't see it.

Every time I see New Order I get really up for it I'm waiting for May the 18th Regardless of how bad they play

El Jarvo wrote: Am I the only one a teeny bit excited that they decided to move Blue Monday back out into the encore?

It's a radical change to the recent setlist(s)!

Next gig is May 18th - wonder if they're gonna add any more Joy Division tracks to the set? Somehow, I just can't see it.

I thought BM at Brum was best I've heard it live for a while... TBH the way things are at the moment, moving songs to different parts of the set is probably the most radical we can expect - I'd like to see them stick some of the more guitary stuff later on - it's not as if they only have 1 or 2 big tracks that have to be at the end... Opening with TPK or Temptation or even BM would keep things interesting... Jealous about all yous lot heading over to Vienna...

Snorri xxx

Someone wiser than me said on the old forum vote with your wallets & feet, every show's on youtube nowadays - you know what you're up for (although I've noticed that the performance NO Facebook page shared was from the '06 Hook inclusive Glasgow gig, not one of the current ones?). You also know the state you'll be in at a gig now as well as what you'd enjoy or not. Like it - go, don't like it - don't, enough people voted yes for shows to sell well or out for better or worse. Still undecided about Vienna though.

Loved this gig, probs the smallest on this tour. Barney even forgot 'you dont play melodica on AOC'. n then launched the fucker right past Steven. Well happy to see em drop thay joy div shite. First new order gig for a while i reckon (stats anybody...)where they've done just new order songs. Loved moving Blue Mon into the encore. Full house like last time. Shouts to ATR, Nobby, Mark, Shady, James Brown, Julie n Rosie & Dec H. who was mightly impressed. A real good quality mosh pit which i tend not to do these days

always thought BM would make a great opening track, get it over and done with and move on to more interesting tracks.

I hadnt listened to or watched anything of 'New Ordernow' so i was well looking forward to the Manc and Glasgow gigs and i must say i wasnt disappointed with either night,from pre gig drinks to gig to post gig drinks,both nights were...well those of you that were with me saw the state i got myself into! 😄

Cant wait to do it all again 👍

Gazman wrote: I hadnt listened to or watched anything of 'New Ordernow' so i was well looking forward to the Manc and Glasgow gigs and i must say i wasnt disappointed with either night,from pre gig drinks to gig to post gig drinks,both nights were...well those of you that were with me saw the state i got myself into! 😄

Cant wait to do it all again 👍

Hyde Park?

setlist.fm says that LWTUA was indeed on the setlist, but not played.

Linky thingy

So, some seven months and twenty gigs later they're back to playing exactly the same set as they started out with in Brussels! HA HA HA HA HA.

Has anyone got the footage of Barney chucking his Melodica? if so put it on You Bastard Tube please?

Digi Mike wrote:

Gazman wrote: I hadnt listened to or watched anything of 'New Ordernow' so i was well looking forward to the Manc and Glasgow gigs and i must say i wasnt disappointed with either night,from pre gig drinks to gig to post gig drinks,both nights were...well those of you that were with me saw the state i got myself into! 😄

Cant wait to do it all again 👍

Hyde Park?

More likely to be Mallorca and Ibiza, same week as my 40th

I wasn't at Newcastle. Part of the charm is that sometimes they would be amazing, and sometimes very far from it. I don't think any of us expect NO2012 to be the same as 1982. If you want exactly-the-same-as-it-used-to-be, go for one of those album-in-full shows. Maybe the sound was crap. Maybe the spirit was not in the house. But for me, my experience at Troxy and Brixton is that New Order 2011-12 can pull off a night as good as anyone else I've seen, including the 'classic' 1981-1998 lineup.

andrew sayer wrote: Loved this gig, probs the smallest on this tour. Barney even forgot 'you dont play melodica on AOC'. n then launched the fucker right past Steven. Well happy to see em drop thay joy div shite. First new order gig for a while i reckon (stats anybody...)where they've done just new order songs. Loved moving Blue Mon into the encore. Full house like last time. Shouts to ATR, Nobby, Mark, Shady, James Brown, Julie n Rosie & Dec H. who was mightly impressed. A real good quality mosh pit which i tend not to do these days

Joy Division's shit? . I would say New Order without Hooky instead 🙄

Big Mouth Julio wrote: Joy Division's shit? . I would say New Order without Hooky instead 🙄

This is a topic about the New Order-gig in Newcastle. Does your statement has anything to do with it? 😕 By the way we have already noticed your opinion, Julio, and it's boring now.

The whole point of new order live is they can be great and they can be shite but you keep coming back for more! I did 3 on this tour (birmingham and both brixton) and only one was any good (brixton thursday)
I will be at hyde park and bestival.

keep the faith

the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

I've been listening to all the recent bootlegs, and everyone is cheering on Gillian and nobody's shouting for He Who Chose To Leave .... says it all really

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

Got to disagree there mate,as i said in my post above id neither seen or heard anything recent

so was 'keeping an eye' so to say on Tom and in my opinion,he nailed it 👍

I thought Hooky would be a miss and apart from him prowling about the stage

musically,they didnt.

Gazman wrote:

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

Got to disagree there mate,as i said in my post above id neither seen or heard anything recent

so was 'keeping an eye' so to say on Tom and in my opinion,he nailed it 👍

I thought Hooky would be a miss and apart from him prowling about the stage

musically,they didnt.

Have to agree Mr Gazman

Digi Mike wrote:

Gazman wrote:

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

Got to disagree there mate,as i said in my post above id neither seen or heard anything recent

so was 'keeping an eye' so to say on Tom and in my opinion,he nailed it 👍

I thought Hooky would be a miss and apart from him prowling about the stage

musically,they didnt.

Have to agree Mr Gazman

😎

You clearly have not been to any of the recent gigs, so jog on knob head!

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

Hooky was not missed in my opinion - long live Barney's Band

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

To be fair, reading reviews and reading what those that have been to these recent gigs, people are saying that this lineup has 'chemistry' with each other. Whilst it wasn't the original lineup either, NO with Bernard, Hooky, Phil, and Steve had chemistry in their way as well. Yet very few people said they should stop using the name NO back then. If you don't think so, you can think that. But I'd politely disagree.

bit late on this one...

far from impressed with where my £35 went...the sound was very poor..a couple of welcome additions to the set list, but ha'way...been starting sets off early with either "crystal" or "regret" for a good 11 years or so now?...

i lasted until "blue monday" then it was out the doors for me...

never again...

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

It's your point of view. The two sold out gigs in Vienna and Lyon last weekend were nearly perfect. I have seen New Order 15 times in 2012 and I wouldn't do it, if it would be such a disappointing experience.

confusion wrote:

Quiller wrote: the bad sound is a red herring

• the reason why this New Order tour is disappointing is that the departure of Hooky has left a clear lack of on- stage chemistry.

either bring back Hooky or stop using the name New Order

It's your point of view. The two sold out gigs in Vienna and Lyon last weekend were nearly perfect. I have seen New Order 15 times in 2012 and I wouldn't do it, if it would be such a disappointing experience.

Agreed, Tom's doing a great job