Your CV of New Order gig attendance

Cardiff would have been my 20th New Order concert if it had gone ahead as planned.

To mark the occasion, I have been hatching an idea of putting together all the New Order and related concerts I attended to this day and posting it here.

With Cardiff show cancelled, when my attendance hits the 20th is beyond prediction now. So I have decided to post the list up to this point.

Would be pleased to see yours. And if you do, you don’t necessarily have to follow mine as a template, go your own style. Thanks.

New Order

1. 1985-05-04 Osaka (Koseinenkin Kaikan [Welfare Pension Hall] )
2. 1987-01-27 Tokyo (Nakano Sun Plaza)
3. 1987-01-28 Tokyo (Nakano Sun Plaza)
4. 1987-01-29 Osaka (Koseinenkin Kaikan [Welfare Pension Hall] )
5. 1987-01-30 Nagoya (Kokaido [Civic Assembly Hall])
6. 1998-12-29 Manchester (Manchester Evening News Arena)
7. 2005-07-31 Naeba (Fuji Rock Festival)
8. 2012-04-26 Manchester (Apollo)
9. 2012-04-27 Manchester (Apollo)
10. 2012-08-18 Osaka (Summer Sonic Festival)
11. 2012-09-16 Portmeirion (Festival No. 6)
12. 2013-07-07 Jodrell Bank (Observatory site)
13. 2015-12-06 Manchester (Warehouse Project)
14. 2016-07-09 Manchester (Castlefield Bowl)
15. 2017-07-13 Manchester (Old Granada Studios)
16. 2019-07-21 Jodrell Bank (Bluedot Festival)
17. 2021-09-08 Halifax (Piece Hall)
18. 2021-09-10 Manchester (Heaton Park)
19. 2023-10-05 Glasgow (OVO Hydro)

*4, 6, 7, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 17 are best of the lot. On the opposite end, the worst show is Manchester 2015 (Warehouse Project) hands down.

Revenge

1. 1991-01-30 Osaka (IMP Hall)

Peter Hook & The Light

1. 2012-05-18 Manchester (FAC251 - The Factory)
2. 2013-01-18 Manchester (Manchester Cathedral)[h]

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Some cool gigs there. Never seen the band abroad, so I'm envious of your Japan ones.

1. Reading Festival, Reading, UK, 29/08/93
2. Apollo Theatre, Manchester, UK, 16/07/98
3. Reading Festival, Reading, UK, 30/08/98
4. Albert Square, Manchester, UK, 21/09/98 (1 track only)
5. Alexandra Palace 31/12/98
6. Olympia, Liverpool, UK, 18/07/01
7. Civic Hall, Wolverhampton, UK, 24/11/15
8. Old Granada Studios, Manchester, 06/07/17
9. Alexandra Palace, London, UK, 09/11/18
10. BlueDot Festival, Jodrell Bank, Macclesfield, UK

Monaco

1. Civic Hall, Wolverhampton, UK, 13/05/97

Not very impressive, really.

I'm put to shame by a lot of you on here, probably. If DigiMike was about, his list is VERY impressive, including such classic gigs as Tower Ballroom '83, Royal Festival Hall '84, some Hacienda gigs and even the 1981 Glastonbury performance. Wow!

1. Glasgow SECC 25/03/1989
2. Reading 30/08/1998
3. Cologne 16/11/2001
4. Finsbury Park 09/06/2002
5. Glasgow Academy 18/10/2006
6. Glasgow O2 19/11/2015

I grew up in the sticks so #1 was the 1st opportunity I ever had after starting uni. I'm fairly certain it was that cologne gig we went to. They started very late and the crowd were getting a bit pissed off. Other than that, I live in the sticks now again so unlikely to ever attend another one.

Saw hooky with Monaco at Reading (along with everyone else) and a few PH&TL gigs in Glasgow and one in Manchester

I've probably missed a few but:

1983: Edinburgh 1985: Edinburgh, Glasgow 1986: Edinburgh, Glasgow, Sheffield, Mcr Hac 1987: Glasgow, Finsbury Park 1989: Glasgow SECC 2001: Mcr Apollo 2006: Glasgow

I've seen Electronic 1991 (good), Revenge 91 (terrible) and Monaco 98? (not bad). I've not seen NO recently - much prefer ACR these days.

prog99 wrote:

Saw hooky with Monaco at Reading (along with everyone else)

Ah yes. So did I, thinking about it. Completely forgot about that (no doubt diminished in my memory due to NO's blistering performance on the same day).

not a complete list, but close enough

aug 1984 chippenham goldiggers dec 1985 central london poly march 1986 oxford apollo oct 1986 royal albert hall ,london june 1987 reading uni dec 1987 wembley arena dec 1988 gmex manchester march 1989 birmingham nec august 1989 reading festival aug 1993 reading festival august 1998 reading festival dec 1998 london alex palace october 2001 brixtpn academy june 2002 london finsbury june 2005 london hyde park nov 2005 london brixton oct 2006 bournemouth international oct 2006 london wembley arena aug 2012 london hyde park oct 2023 london o2 arena

monaco reading aug 1998

peter hook and the light 3 times in reading at sub 89 and 1 at oxford aacademy

I am very envious of anyone who saw them in the 80s. I got into the band in 1987 (True Faith etc.), but was 15 and didn't start going to gigs for another year or so. Missed the NEC, SECC and reading gigs in 1989 and consequently had to wait another 4 years to see my favourite band (Reading '93).

Worth the wait (great gig), but I really feel like I missed out on seeing the band in their absolute prime.

Turin Traffic Festival 2005 Zagreb InMusic Festival 2012

miserable I know

New Order:

1. 2001 Tue Jul 31, Shoreline, Mountain View (Moby's Area One Festival)
2. 2006 Fri Oct 27, Wembley, London
3. 2012 Fri Oct 5, Fox, Oakland
4. 2014 Fri Jul 11, Bill Graham, SF
5. 2017 Fri Apr 21, Greek Theatre, Berkeley
6. 2018 Sat Sep 29, Long Beach (Music Tastes Good Festival)
7. 2021 Sat Nov 6, O2 London (livestream)
8. 2022 Wed Oct 12, Chase Center, SF

Peter Hook:

1. 2013 Fri Sep 27, Mezzanine, SF
2. 2014 Fri Nov 21, Mezzanine, SF
3. 2018 Sat May 12, Warfield, SF

I grew up 6 hours away from cities they'd played in the U.S. (halfway between Chicago and Atlanta).

In April 1988 Echo & The Bunnymen with Gene Love Jezebel played the university in my town, and I went. This was only 7 months after they'd all toured together - so close to seeing them tour Substance!

I have seen every member - including the short-lived lineup with Billy Corgan - but never saw the original 4 together.

...and because I'm a total nerd...

New Order Songs I've Heard Live:

Academic (soundcheck) Age Of Consent Be A Rebel Bizarre Love Triangle Blue Monday Californian Grass Ceremony Close Range Crystal Elegia 586 Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Here To Stay Love Vigilantes 1963 Plastic Regret Restless Singularity 60 Miles An Hour Sub-culture Superheated Temptation The Perfect Kiss Touched By The Hand Of God True Faith Turn Turn My Way Tutti Frutti Ultraviolence Vanishing Point Waiting For The Sirens' Call Who's Joe? Your Silent Face

Joy Division Songs I've Heard Live:

Atmosphere Decades Disorder Isolation Love Will Tear Us Apart Shadowplay She's Lost Control These Days Transmission

Covers:

San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair) - Scott McKenzie California Dreamin' - The Mamas & The Papas

1989 nec 1998 apollo 1998 men arena 2001 apollo 2002 old trafford 2005 hyde park 2005 apollo 2006 liverpool 2006 blackpool 2012 apollo 2013 jodrell bank 2015 liverpool 2016 castlefield bowl 2017 granada studios 1st and last dates 2019 jodrell bank 2021 heaton park 2024 wythenshaw

peter hook low life/brotherhood x 2 and substance

monaco at v97...apparently as i was absolutely smashed and remember nothing at all

bad lieutenant - leadmill

lee wrote: 1989 nec 1998 apollo 1998 men arena 2001 apollo 2002 old trafford 2005 hyde park 2005 apollo 2006 liverpool 2006 blackpool 2012 apollo 2013 jodrell bank 2015 liverpool 2016 castlefield bowl 2017 granada studios 1st and last dates 2019 jodrell bank 2021 heaton park 2024 wythenshaw

I forgot I was at the MEN 98 too. No wonder I forgot, it was probably the worst I'd seen them. Strange night.

Birmingham Tower Ballroom Oct 86 ( annoyingly i had to leave halfway through to catch last train home. They had taken to the stage so late that night. )

Sheffield Roxy June 87 Wembley Arena Dec 87 Birmingham NEC March 89 Reading Festival August 93 Reading Festival August 98 Manchester MEN Arena Dec 98 Manchester Apollo Oct 2001 Hyde Park June 2005 Brixton Academy Nov 2005 Manchester MEN Arena Jan 2006 (Manc vs Cancer event) Liverpool Summer Pops July 2006 Blackpool Oct 2006 Wembley Arena Oct 2006 Wolverhampton Civic Hall Oct 2006 Birmingham Ballroom April 2012 Brixton Academy May 2012 Jodrell Bank July 2013 Brixton Academy Nov 2015 Wolverhampton Civic Hall Nov 2015 Bluedot Festival Jodrell Bank July 2019

Also had a ticket for and went to watch the Birmingham Powerhouse gig June 1984 but was refused entry for being under 18( was refunded ticket cost but i was devastated my mate and i weren't allowed entry)

Sheffield Roxy June 87 was a fantastic night. I wish there were photos or video but i've never discovered any)

Reading 98 and Brixton 2005 are two of my all time favourites.

Electronic :

Cities In The Park, Manchester, August 91

Wembley Exhibition Hall 1, Dec 91

Revenge:

Cities In The Park August 91

Monaco:

Reading Festival 98

tapebias wrote:

I forgot I was at the MEN 98 too. No wonder I forgot, it was probably the worst I'd seen them. Strange night.

In Fast Forward, the second volume of his autobiography, Stephen Morris describes the Manchester Arena show 1998 was “awful,” as opposed to the other Christmas gig, Alexandra Palace, which was “pretty good mainly because it was New Year’s Eve.”

I was there and included it in the best lot as I felt it was great by myself. The evening was a double bill with Underworld and promoted under the event title, “Temptation”. I remember a fair size of the audience left after the New Order set, not bothering to stay longer for Underworld who took the stage later.

For me, it was the first time in almost 12 years to catch them live since Japan, January 1987, and quite an emotional experience to do so in Manchester, first time I saw them on their home turf. I vividly recall the spray painted words, “Salford rules”, over one of the amps on stage. Was thrilled to hear Regret live for the first time, and also Fine Time and Guilty Partner (live debut and played only twice to this day) for both Technique and Republic tours didn’t happen in Japan.

Stephen doesn’t give any clue why it was awful. I wonder if he meant the venue rather than the performance. Thoughts?

The Japanese One wrote:

tapebias wrote:

I forgot I was at the MEN 98 too. No wonder I forgot, it was probably the worst I'd seen them. Strange night.

In Fast Forward, the second volume of his autobiography, Stephen Morris describes the Manchester Arena show 1998 was “awful,” as opposed to the other Christmas gig, Alexandra Palace, which was “pretty good mainly because it was New Year’s Eve.”

I was there and included it in the best lot as I felt it was great by myself. The evening was a double bill with Underworld and promoted under the event title, “Temptation”. I remember a fair size of the audience left after the New Order set, not bothering to stay longer for Underworld who took the stage later.

For me, it was the first time in almost 12 years to catch them live since Japan, January 1987, and quite an emotional experience to do so in Manchester, first time I saw them on their home turf. I vividly recall the spray painted words, “Salford rules”, over one of the amps on stage. Was thrilled to hear Regret live for the first time, and also Fine Time and Guilty Partner (live debut and played only twice to this day) for both Technique and Republic tours didn’t happen in Japan.

Stephen doesn’t give any clue why it was awful. I wonder if he meant the venue rather than the performance. Thoughts?

Interesting, thanks. I looked it up in the book and yep it's there (page 371). Yep, Steve doesn't add any more than "awful". He could mean the gig or the venue or the vibe in the room or all of the above.Maybe doing a gig just a few days after Christmas just wasn't a good idea in hindsight?

I was at the gig. It certainly wasn't very memorable for me. Just all a bit going through the motions. Notable maybe only for Guilty Partner being played ( after a failed start "all part of the charm").Oddly, i had no memory of them playing Fine Time that night. I had entertained the idea for years that i'd never seen that one ever played live but it turns out i have then!

I stayed afterwards to catch Underworld. The venue had emptied by more than half after New Order finished.I was free to wander around the venue and sit almost wherever i wanted ( i'd paid for standing and which i did for NO's set). I had no hotel that night so the event going on til 4 or 5am or whatever it was suited me. I guess i must have left at the very end and then only had to wait a couple hours at Piccadilly train station for my train home in the morning.

Oh and Lionrock also performed that night( or at least a DJ set?) Can't recall if that was before or after New Order.

Fair to middling I guess. I was 17 in 1989, so the travelling wouldn’t have been an issue, more the finding somewhere to stay. 17 year olds didn’t have the wedge to stay in hotels in the 80s where I lived. Birmingham NEC 1989 Brixton Academy 2001 Finsbury Park 2002 Manchester Apollo 2005 Newcastle Academy 2006 Newcastle Academy 2012 Brixton Academy 2015 Wolverhampton Civic Hall 2015 Manchester Warehouse Project 2015 Manchester Castlefield Bowl 2016 Manchester Granada Studios 2017 Manchester Heaton Park 2021 Manchester Wythenshawe Park 2024

Feel like I’ve missed some out, but maybe when you’ve grown up with the band and read about every gig before and after it feels like more

Knew I’d forgot something

Revenge Newcastle Riverside 1990 Hooky bought me a pint and signed my Round & Round t-shirt

Fotz wrote:

The Japanese One wrote:

tapebias wrote:

I forgot I was at the MEN 98 too. No wonder I forgot, it was probably the worst I'd seen them. Strange night.

In Fast Forward, the second volume of his autobiography, Stephen Morris describes the Manchester Arena show 1998 was “awful,” as opposed to the other Christmas gig, Alexandra Palace, which was “pretty good mainly because it was New Year’s Eve.” Stephen doesn’t give any clue why it was awful. I wonder if he meant the venue rather than the performance. Thoughts?

I was at the gig. It certainly wasn't very memorable for me. Just all a bit going through the motions. Notable maybe only for Guilty Partner being played ( after a failed start "all part of the charm").Oddly, i had no memory of them playing Fine Time that night. I had entertained the idea for years that i'd never seen that one ever played live but it turns out i have then! I stayed afterwards to catch Underworld. The venue had emptied by more than half after New Order finished.I was free to wander around the venue and sit almost wherever i wanted ( i'd paid for standing and which i did for NO's set). I had no hotel that night so the event going on til 4 or 5am or whatever it was suited me. I guess i must have left at the very end and then only had to wait a couple hours at Piccadilly train station for my train home in the morning.

Sames as me Fotz, must have been in Piccadilly same time as we left after UW and spent 4 hrs shivering on a station bench. It was billed more as a dance event with lots of DJ rooms going on which I never bothered with. Thought the atmosphere was flat all round and almost empty by the time UW finished. Not one of their best IMO.

tapebias wrote:

Sames as me Fotz, must have been in Piccadilly same time as we left after UW and spent 4 hrs shivering on a station bench. It was billed more as a dance event with lots of DJ rooms going on which I never bothered with. Thought the atmosphere was flat all round and almost empty by the time UW finished. Not one of their best IMO.

Yes. Absolutely. It was all kind of flat, the whole event. Strange.

tapebias wrote:

Fotz wrote: I was at the gig. It certainly wasn't very memorable for me. Just all a bit going through the motions. Notable maybe only for Guilty Partner being played ( after a failed start "all part of the charm").Oddly, i had no memory of them playing Fine Time that night. I had entertained the idea for years that i'd never seen that one ever played live but it turns out i have then! I stayed afterwards to catch Underworld. The venue had emptied by more than half after New Order finished.I was free to wander around the venue and sit almost wherever i wanted ( i'd paid for standing and which i did for NO's set). I had no hotel that night so the event going on til 4 or 5am or whatever it was suited me. I guess i must have left at the very end and then only had to wait a couple hours at Piccadilly train station for my train home in the morning.

Sames as me Fotz, must have been in Piccadilly same time as we left after UW and spent 4 hrs shivering on a station bench. It was billed more as a dance event with lots of DJ rooms going on which I never bothered with. Thought the atmosphere was flat all round and almost empty by the time UW finished. Not one of their best IMO.

I was staying with my then girlfriend (now wife) at The Mitre Hotel by Manchester Cathedral, a stone’s throw from the MEN Arena, which may have made a difference in our respective experiences, especially the way we felt after we left the venue and out in the streets of Manchester early in the morning in cold winter.

If I remember correctly, after Underworld, the remaining punters were treated to Laurent Garnier’s DJ set during which we left the floor.

I still think New Order’s set was good enough and up to my expectation. Isolation and Heart And Soul were another pleasant surprises. JD “covers” still sounded fresh in those days.

Although not my cup of tea, Underworld were on top of their game in the aftermath of the hit tune, Born Slippy. I found myself nodding off on the balcony seat in the middle of their set though lol.

My regret is that I missed the chance of getting Peter Saville-designed T shirt of Unknown Pleasures variation, the half-collapsing image of the radio waves of the pulsar, which looked so cool. When I went to the merch, my size (M) was sold out and unavailable.

Glad I've managed to add a few outside of Manchester especially since I don't live there 😄 Wish I'd seen Electronic or Bad Lieu for that matter! When did the gigs stop getting raucous, seemed to think they were still lively after Hooky left, maybe when they added the visual backdrop?

I didn't mind Warehouse, thought it was different but do remember the sound was shocking, so loud!!!

1.	1998–07-16 Manchester (Apollo)
2.	2001-10-05 Manchester (Apollo)
3.	2002-07-13 Manchester (Move Festival 2002)
4.	2005-11-14 Manchester (Apollo)
5.	2006-10-29 Wolverhampton (Civic Hall)
6.	2012-04-26 Manchester (Apollo)
7.	2015-12-05 Manchester (Warehouse Project)
8.	2016-07-09 Manchester (Castlefield Bowl)
9.	2021-09-10 Manchester (Heaton Park)
10.	2023-10-07 Leeds (First Direct Arena)
11.	2024-08-24 Manchester (Wythenshawe Park)

Peter Hook & The Light 1. 2014-03-22 Hull, Fruit 2. 2017-05-11 Hull, University 3. 2022-08-06 Blackpool, Rebellion Festival

Monaco 1. 1997-08-17 Leeds, V Festival 2. 2000-08-29 Manchester, University

Oh yeah, Bad Lieutenant! I saw them once. Preston 53 Degrees venue i think it was called? Must have been around 2010? I do still have a ton of photos on my laptop from that night (March 2010?) Missy Jem, Rocket Mick, Banshee and more. Can't recall much except Bernard and band just switched to New Order songs like Temptation towards the end of the night. I had a B&B somewhere god knows in Preston. And i experienced the art deco(or Brutalism, depends on your perception ) that is Preston Bus Station.

Like No Other wrote: When did the gigs stop getting raucous, seemed to think they were still lively after Hooky left, maybe when they added the visual backdrop?

Well the first gigs post Hooky were the October 2011 ones in Brussels and Paris. And they were the first time , if i'm correct, that they used video/visual backdrops and which they've used every gig ever since. There were no gigs post Hooky where they didn't have video/visual backdrops. I think Bernard and band were advised before their 2011 comeback gigs that video/visuals backdrops at gigs were and are expected in the 21st century live experience, for better or worst.The new De Rigueur.Long gone are the old days of just a moody blue still light back drop.

Fotz wrote: I think Bernard and band were advised before their 2011 comeback gigs that video/visuals backdrops at gigs were and are expected in the 21st century live experience, for better or worst.

Plus, those 2 gigs were fundraisers for Michael Shamberg, who’d produced a number of their videos. I remember at the time there was uncertainty as to whether they’d be allowed to use the New Order name.

Like No Other wrote: When did the gigs stop getting raucous, seemed to think they were still lively after Hooky left, maybe when they added the visual backdrop?

1989. After that maybe a few minor skirmishes but most people had settled down. By the reformation most people were in their 40s propping up the bar or talking to their pal Charlie in the toilets. For whatever reason I always preferred to observe quietly (or tape) and was admonished by a fellow fan at Hac 86 during EGG for not getting down haha.

Brixton Academy Nov 2005 was pretty bloody raucous in the moshpit. That's why it is one of my favourite ever New Order gigs. It was just mad down at the front that night. Probably the last time i had the energy for sustaining it the whole gig, i was mid 30s then.

One raucous gig of New Order I witnessed in person is their second Osaka visit in 1987. During Blue Monday, Bernard threw away the Stratocaster on the stage floor to his right side, turned to the drum kit, took a stick and started hitting the cymbal hard, showing his back to the audience. The crowd went nuts. He then picked up the guitar from the floor and played against the amp behind, causing ear-piercing feedback noise all around, before finishing the main set. A brutal performance.

Returning to the stage for the encore, Bernard, not hiding a good mood, called out, “This is Perfect Kiss, and —.” The crowd enthused, drowning out his next words to follow, to which he responded, “Oh thank you, thank you.” An unforgettable night.

Speaking of raucous Finsbury Park 2002 was pretty violent in the mosh pit, and Manchester Apollo 2005 was the best I’ve ever seen them. Band and audience properly in sync and had the place absolutely rocking!!

tapebias wrote:

Like No Other wrote: When did the gigs stop getting raucous, seemed to think they were still lively after Hooky left, maybe when they added the visual backdrop?

1989. After that maybe a few minor skirmishes but most people had settled down.

Reading 1993 was MENTAL. I think a 'sliding doors' version of me died that night, crushed under the trainers of many a fan.

The Japanese One wrote: One raucous gig of New Order I witnessed in person is their second Osaka visit in 1987. During Blue Monday, Bernard threw away the Stratocaster on the stage floor to his right side, turned to the drum kit, took a stick and started hitting the cymbal hard, showing his back to the audience. The crowd went nuts. He then picked up the guitar from the floor and played against the amp behind, causing ear-piercing feedback noise all around, before finishing the main set. A brutal performance.

Returning to the stage for the encore, Bernard, not hiding a good mood, called out, “This is Perfect Kiss, and —.” The crowd enthused, drowning out his next words to follow, to which he responded, “Oh thank you, thank you.” An unforgettable night.

Cool story. Might give that gig a listen later.