Discography: TF2k1 Philip Steir remixes

I'm starting to finalize the next update of the New Order Discography - I want to give everyone a nice Christmas gift... :)

Anyway, I don't have a turntable handy, so I hope someone here can help me out. For the 2001 remixes of True Faith, are the Philip Steir remixes "Club Mix" and "Re-Order Mix" the same or different in any way?

Thanks, /TLV

I only have the 6-track promo CD of these mixes, so don't have a Philip Steir Club Mix, but if you want to confirm correct running times for any of the New Order tracks at your discography, visit my New Order Track List online, which includes almost every New Order track ever release (almost, but not quite). All have been timed by myself and the times are 100% accurate and confirmed!

For example: I have the NEWCDJ5 True Faith '94 1 track promo, and it doesn't have a running time of 4:41 - it's the True Faith 94 Radio Edit, as featured on all the other releases, with a running time of 4:28.

Also have a browse through, and you'll see that sometimes the vinyl versions have shorter running times than CD versions, and vice-versa. I guess this is to make sure each format complies with chart regulations about maximum lengths of singles eligible for chart entry, but the 'Subbutteo Dub' and 'No Alla Violenza' mixes of 'World In Motion' are different lengths on different formats, as well as the James Holden Heavy Dub of 'Someone Like You'. you may find some other interesting tracks and information there, such as the whopping 15 different versions of 'Confusion 02' (including the 'Retro' edit of the Koma and Bones mix, and the early promo versions which featured the original vocal take).

All gets horribly confusing (literally) if you pay too much attention!

hope this list helps!

Andy.

Originally posted by Mr Discography I only have the 6-track promo CD of these mixes, so don't have a Philip Steir Club Mix, but if you want to confirm correct running times for any of the New Order tracks at your discography, visit my New Order Track List online, which includes almost every New Order track ever release (almost, but not quite). All have been timed by myself and the times are 100% accurate and confirmed!

Obviously, you don't have the Club Mix... Anyway, the time for the two tracks are the same, 8:12, but I haven't had the chance to do a comparison listening. I can compare two CDs by playing them simulatenously in my DJ CD-players (allows for minor pitch-bend to keep them in sync).

Suggestion, you may want to keep the list in alphabetical order...

For example: I have the NEWCDJ5 True Faith '94 1 track promo, and it doesn't have a running time of 4:41 - it's the True Faith 94 Radio Edit, as featured on all the other releases, with a running time of 4:28.

What the Discography does, is to mainly list the tracks times as found on the sleeve or label (if any). If the track time differs significantly (as often seen on the italian releases), the correct time is indicated.

Also, keep in mind that with CDs, sometimes additional 2 second are shown on the CD-player. And in addition, the same track/version may be recorded with a slightly higher tempo, or faded a little bit earlier - making the "correct" time somewhat misleading...

If you find any obvious errors in the Discography, please let me know.

All gets horribly confusing (literally) if you pay too much attention!

Tell me about it... :)

Well, back to the original question...

/TLV

Originally posted by TLV Suggestion, you may want to keep the list in alphabetical order...

This is a list I've kept every now and again over the last couple of years as and when stuff has been released, or I've got hold of back catalogue material. It's roughly chronological, and would take me forever to rearrange alphabetically!

Also, keep in mind that with CDs, sometimes additional 2 second are shown on the CD-player. And in addition, the same track/version may be recorded with a slightly higher tempo, or faded a little bit earlier - making the "correct" time somewhat misleading...If you find any obvious errors in the Discography, please let me know.

Yeah, I know you get the gap between tracks included when you see a CD track's time (if you program it in stop mode), but I get my times by checking the exact second a track finishes or fades out - that's why my timings are very accurate. That makes the 'True Faith' promo a wildly innacurate timing: some 13 seconds out. I actually got hold of that promo thinking it would be a slightly different edit after reading the discography :-) It's definitely 4:28. I've not heard of any officially released stuff being recorded with a higher tempo: that would also change the pitch and make the track sound out of tune.

Anyway, I'll have a little browse through my list and write down which formats have different edits of mixes on - I have mostly UK releases, so can't comment on the other coutries' issues.

Andy.

Some timings for your discography update:

FAC53/7: Everything's Gone Green 4:15 Procession 4:26

FAC63/7: Temptation 5:21 Hurt 4:47

Featurmist Tape: Video 586-1 6:41 Video 586-2 13:34

FAC51b: Rocking Carol 3:33 Ode To Joy 3:56

CD5: UK 1994 (London/CentreDate NEWCDJ5) [promo] 4:41 True Faith-94 (remix)* Actually True Faith-94 (Radio Edit) 4:28

12": AU 1990 (Factory/Festival X14849) 12": FR 1990 (Virgin 80534) 12": SP 1990 (Nuevos Medios 31-512M) 12": SW 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293) 12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293) 12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA WFACX 293) [white label DJ promo] 5:51 World in Motion... (the b-side)

This is incorrect - there is no 5:51 version of The B-side: the twelve inch has exactly the same tracks as the seven inch, with The B-Side being 4:48.

CD5: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FACD 293) 4:30 World in Motion... (single mix) 4:14 World in Motion... (the b-side) 5:37 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix)

Can't speak for the CD single releases on other countries, but on the UK CD single The B-Side is faded early and only 4:14 in length (presumably because of CD single maximum running time regulations again).

12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293R) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) 5:52 World in Motion... (carabinieri mix)
5:35 World in Motion... (no alla violenzia mix)

While these timings for the Subbutteo Dub and No Alla Violenza mixes are correct for the CD versions of 'World In Motion', the UK Remix 12" FAC 293R has edited versions of these two mixes (presumably to keep the maximum running time under twenty minutes and in line with chart regulations) so the true running times for the 12" Remixes are:

4:13 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) 4:12 World in Motion... (no alla violenzia mix)

(The Rest Of) New Order 2xLP: UK 1995 Everything's Gone Green (Dave Clarke Mix) 5:26 Temptation (CJ Bolland Mix) 7:43

60 Miles An Hour CD5: UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUCDP9) Someone Like You (James Holden Heavy Dub) 6:43 This version was edited at 6:43, and is not the 9:59 version stated in your discography.

Someone Like You 12": UK 2001 (London Records 90 Ltd NUOXX 10) Someone Like You (James Holden Heavy Dub) 9:59 This version is the full, 9:59 version on the UK Remix 12", not the shorter 6:43 version as stated in your discography.

Here To Stay 12": UK 2002 (London Records NUOX11) Crystal 7:08

Although unstated on the sleeve, this is the original version, longer than the mix that appears on 'Get Ready'.

Confusion '02 WACKT002 - UK 12" Confusion (Koma And Bones Vocal Version) 8:11 Confusion (Larry Tees Electroclash Mix) 5:30 Confusion (Accapella And Parts) 6:09

WACKT002RE - UK 12" Confusion (Outputs Nu-Rocktro Version) 5:50 Confusion (Arthur Baker 2002 Version) 6:14 Confusion (Asto Dazed Mix) 7:29

WACKT002CD - UK CDS Confusion (Koma And Bones Version) 3:45 Confusion (Arthur Baker 2002 Version) 3:09 Confusion (Electroclash Version) 3:40 Confusion (Outputs Nu-Rocktro Version) 3:41 Confusion (Asto Dazed Mix) 4:22

WACKT002D - UK Promo 12" Confusion (Arthur Bakers 2002 Version)* 6:42 Confusion (Arthur Bakers 2002 Instrumental) 5:47 Confusion (Asto Dazed Mix) 7:29

WACKT002E - UK Promo 12" Confusion (Outputs Nu-Rocktro Version)* 5:50 Confusion (Larry Tees Electroclash Mix) 5:30 Confusion (Accapella And Parts) 6:09

* Different versions to officially released mixes, featuring Bernard's original vocal.

Right then, as far as I can tell, cross-referenced with my personal lists, these are all the correctins and ammendments needed for your discography - hope this is all of good use to you!

Regards, Andy.

Originally posted by Mr Discography Some timings for your discography update:12": AU 1990 (Factory/Festival X14849)12": FR 1990 (Virgin 80534)12": SP 1990 (Nuevos Medios 31-512M)12": SW 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293)12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293)12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA WFACX 293) [white label DJ promo]5:51 World in Motion... (the b-side)This is incorrect - there is no 5:51 version of The B-side: the twelve inch has exactly the same tracks as the seven inch, with The B-Side being 4:48.

TLV seems to think that this extended mix of 'The B-Side' exists somewhere, and needs another person to confirm that the 12" of 'WIM' does, in fact have exactly the same versions of the song that can be found on the 7".

I certainly don't know of a 5:51 version of 'The B-Side', and it's definitely not on the UK Factory 12", so can someone else confirm that this is the case?

Andy.

Not only are 7" and 12" identical, so is the cassette single...

Having said that, the UK CD single version of The B-Side fades out early, possibly due to the old maximum CD single running time chart regulations. The CD single version is only 4:14, but the 7", 12" and Cassette versions are all 4:48

Andy.

To dig up an old thread... Here is the new entry that will be in the updated New Order Discography (sorry for the formatting). Andrew's timing is in there, but many other releases need confirmation. I'll leave the "uncertainty" mark ('+') until I, or someone else, have had a chance to confirm the track times.

World in Motion [May 1990]

7": AU 1990 (Factory/MCA K10109)
7": FR 1990 (Virgin 90613)
7": GE 1990 (Factory/Rough Trade RTD 076)
7": SW 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293-7)
7": UK 1990 (Factory/MNW FAC 293-7)

12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293) CSS: AU 1990 (Factory/Festival C10109) CSS: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293C) 4:27 World in Motion... 4:48 World in Motion... (the b-side)

12": AU 1990 (Factory/Festival X14849) + 12": FR 1990 (Virgin 80534) + 12": GR 1990 (Virgin VG2167Z) + 12": SP 1990 (Nuevos Medios 31-512M) + 12": SW 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293) + 12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA WFACX 293) [white label DJ promo] + 4:27 World in Motion... 5:51 World in Motion... (the b-side)

12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FAC 293R) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 4:13 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) 5:52 World in Motion... (carabinieri mix)
4:12 World in Motion... (no alla violenzia mix)

12": GE 1989 (Factory/RoughTrade RTD 076RT) **/+ 12": US 1990 (Qwest 9 21582-0) + CMS: AU 1990 (Factory/Festival C14878) + CMS: US 1990 (Qwest 9 21582-4) + CD5: AU 1990 (Factory/Festival D14878) + CD5: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FACD 293R) [promo] */+ 5:52 World in Motion... (carabinieri mix) 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub)

12": CA 1990 (Factory/Polygram DJF 369) [promo] 4:21 World in Motion... 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix)

12": UK 1990 (Factory/MCA WFAC 293) [white label promo] + 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub)

CD5: JP 1990 (Factory/Nippon Columbia COCY-5102) CD5: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FACD 293) 4:30 World in Motion... (single mix) 4:14 World in Motion... (the b-side) 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix)

CD5: AU 1990 (Factory/Festival D10109) + CD5: FR 1990 (Virgin 30353) + CD3: GE 1990 (Factory/Rough Trade RTDCD 076) + CD5: US 1990 (Qwest 9 21582-2) 4:30 World in Motion... (single mix) 4:48 World in Motion... (the b-side) 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix)

CD5: CA 1990 (PolyGram 246-236-2D) [promo] 4:30 World in Motion...

12": CA 1990 (Polygram 846 237-1) + CMS: CA 1990 (Polygram 846 237-4) + CD5: CA 1990 (Polygram 846 237-2) + 4:30 World in Motion... (single mix) 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:52 World in Motion... (carabinieri mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) 4:48 World in Motion... (the b-side)

CD5: UK 2002 (London Records/WEA NUOCD12) [released June 2002] CDR: UK 2002 (London Records) [promo] 4:30 World in Motion... (radio mix) 4:10 Such a Good Thing 5:29 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix)

VHS: UK 1990 (Factory FAC 293V) [promo] VHS: US 1990 (Warner Bros. C31042) [promo] 4:03 World in Motion

• Track times may differ. * "Remixes in Motion: the unabridged dance tracks". ** The tracks are in a different order.

• Also released on a cassette that came with Ocean's videogame "Championship Football"

Originally posted by TLV Anyway, I don't have a turntable handy, so I hope someone here can help me out. For the 2001 remixes of True Faith, are the Philip Steir remixes "Club Mix" and "Re-Order Mix" the same or different in any way?

And noone can answer this question?

/TLV

The UK CDS for 'World in Motion' includes a 4:14 version of 'The B-Side' and a 5:19 version of the 'No Alla Violenza Mix'. The North American (US & Canada) CDS's include 4:48 and 5:40 versions respectivley. Is the Phil Collins quote only on UK releases of the 'Subbuteo Dub'? It's missing from all North American issues.

Discography correction: The 1987 US Tour flexi containing the 'Shame of the Nation' edit is nine inches in diameter, not ten.

All versions of 'World In Motion' that I know of:

• World In Motion… 4:30 From 'World In Motion…' 7"/12"/cassette/CD single

• World In Motion… (The B-side) 4:48 From 'World In Motion…' 7"/12"/cassette/Canadian CD single

• World In Motion… (The B-side) 4:14 From 'World In Motion…' UK CD single

• World In Motion… (No Alla Violenza Mix) 5:19 From 'World In Motion…' UK CD single

• World In Motion… (No Alla Violenza Mix) 5:41 From 'World In Motion…' Canadian CD single

• World In Motion… (No Alla Violenza Mix) 4:12 From 'World In Motion…' UK remix 12"

• World In Motion… (Subbuteo Mix) 5:07 'World In Motion…' CD single/remix 12"

• World In Motion… (Subbuteo Dub Mix) 5:08 From 'World In Motion…' Canadian CD

• World In Motion… (Subbuteo Dub) 4:13 From 'World In Motion…' UK remix 12"

• World In Motion… (Carabinieri Mix) 5:55 From 'World In Motion…' UK remix 12"/Canadian CD single

• World In Motion 96 (Remix) 4:57 From 'The Beautiful Game' compilation

I also remember the video had a shorter mix of the single version, but that's not available on vinyl or CD, obviously. I think the reason there are so many edits of the No Alla Violenza, The B-Side and Subutteo Dub mixes is due to the UK chart regulations at the time which meant that a 12" and CD single could have a running time of no more than twenty minutes to be eligable for a chart placing. That'll be the reason the Canadians got the full versions of all the tunes on one convenient CD single, and us Brits got abridged edits!

Andy.

Originally posted by Mr Discography Having said that, the UK CD single version of The B-Side fades out early, possibly due to the old maximum CD single running time chart regulations. The CD single version is only 4:14, but the 7", 12" and Cassette versions are all 4:48Andy.

Well, Andy....I've just checked my WIM CD5 Oz ( Cat. No. D10109 ) & USA ( Cat. No. 9-21582-2 )...the B-side for Oz is exactly the same as UK one ( track time 4:14 ) but the USA one B-side mix is 4:48 mins long.

Hope this helps....sorry TLV, I dont have that TF Steir Club Mix ( I only have the USA 6-trk promo CD & USA 2-vinyl mixes )

Ok, these track-discrepancies are officially driving me nucking futs...

Originally posted by Mr Discography - World In Motion… (No Alla Violenza Mix) 5:19 From 'World In Motion…' UK CD single - World In Motion… (No Alla Violenza Mix) 5:41 From 'World In Motion…' Canadian CD single

What's the diff between these two?

And I wonder what track is on the CA 12" promo DJF369, where the label says 5:29...

/TLV

In addition to the formats already posted, here are a couple of confirmations/corrections to the World In Motion discography:

World in Motion [May 1990]

'Remixes In Motion' CD5: UK 1990 (Factory/MCA FACD 293R) [promo] */+ 5:43 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:55 **** World in Motion... (carabinieri mix) 5:10 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix) 5:08 World in Motion... (subbuteo dub) [Sleeve and CD lists the Carabinieri mix as track 1 and the No Alla Violenza Mix as track 2 - this is incorrect - corrections as above]

CD3: GE 1990 (Factory/Rough Trade RTDCD 076) + 4:32 World in Motion... (single mix) 4:15 World in Motion... (the b-side) 5:20 World in Motion... (no alla violenza mix) 5:09 World in Motion... (subbuteo mix)

l8rs,

Nick ;)

Originally posted by Nick King In addition to the formats already posted, here are a couple of confirmations/corrections to the World In Motion discography

Thanks Nick. It helps.

If you have a scan of the back of FAC293R and/or the disc itself, that'd be super.

/TLV

Hi folks...

True Faith 2001 (Qwest PRO-CD-100663) 01 (Philip Steir Edit) 5:46 02 (Philip Steir Re-Order Mix) 8:15 03 (Philip Steir Dub) 8:16 04 (Morel's Pink Noise Club Mix) 8:48 * 05 (Morel's Extra Dub) 8:24 06 (Morel's Calling Shifty Dub )7:24 ***

True Faith 2001 (Qwest CD-Reference) 01 (Morel's Pink Noise Mix) 8:48 * 02 (Morel's Pink Noise Edit) 4:31 ** 03 (Morel's Pink Noise Calling Shifty Dub Mix) 7:24 *** 04 (Morel's Pink Noise My Fear Of Dub Mix) ?:?? **** 05 (Morel's Pink Noise I've Taken Too Much Dub Mix) 6:48

* same versions ** appears on Retro Bonus CD *** same versions **** this version I'm still missing

Greetz, Floyd.

Originally posted by Mr Discography I also remember the video had a shorter mix of the single version, but that's not available on vinyl or CD, obviously. I think the reason there are so many edits of the No Alla Violenza, The B-Side and Subutteo Dub mixes is due to the UK chart regulations at the time which meant that a 12" and CD single could have a running time of no more than twenty minutes to be eligable for a chart placing. That'll be the reason the Canadians got the full versions of all the tunes on one convenient CD single, and us Brits got abridged edits!Andy.

I've always hated those utterly stupid chart rules. All they seem to do is ensure the UK buyer gets short-changed repeatedly. I've never understood the point of them. What _is_ the reason for them? Having a maximum length and number of tracks on a single just stops someone releasing an lp as a single, but its not as if lps massively outsell singles, so why bother?

Originally posted by Floyd Anderson 04 (Morel's Pink Noise My Fear Of Dub Mix) ?:?? ****

6:50. It's a dub similar to "i've taken too much dub" but with different (less?) instrumentalization and arrangement. Maybe I'll compare them side by side one day...

/TLV

Trivial Question:

Does the 5:08 Subbuteo Dub on the UK promo have the vocal samples that appear on the 4:15 Subbuteo Dub? They're missing from the US and Canadian 5:08 Dubs.

The sample I'm referring to appears 22 seconds into the track asking "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" I presume it's Keith Allen. The track also ends with someone stating "We've got 25 minutes!" followed by the same "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" sample.

An interesting thing you don't have on your discography -

I saw Blue Monday 88 and Touched by the Hand of God promo BETA-MAX videos up for auction on EBAY yesterday!!

Originally posted by Slippy I saw Blue Monday 88 and Touched by the Hand of God promo BETA-MAX videos up for auction on EBAY yesterday!!

You may want to check the site next week or so...

BTW: How much did they go for? Last time I checked they were around 12-15 dollars.

/TLV

They only went for about US$10 but you can't rely on the EBAY selling price.

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Floyd Anderson> 04 (Morel's Pink Noise My Fear Of Dub Mix) ?:?? ****

6:50. It's a dub similar to "i've taken too much dub" but with different (less?) instrumentalization and arrangement. Maybe I'll compare them side by side one day...

/TLV

Is there any chance you can supply floyds ftp-server with this remix? I know a lot of people (including me) who have been desperately looking for this version.!

Originally posted by Lars Michel Is there any chance you can supply floyds ftp-server with this remix? I know a lot of people (including me) who have been desperately looking for this version.!

By risking being publicly executed, I can safely say that I will not u/l an mp3 to his server.

I don't necessarily think that sharing mp3s are the right thing to do - not even promo or oop material. (Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been there and done that, but we are all guilty of double-standards...)

Call me silly, but as a collector I enjoy discovering a new track/version/remix without first having heard it as an mp3. And I don't want to ruin other collectors' pleasure...

For "collectors are crazy"-threads, search the archives here, or search the Ceremony mailinglist archives...

/TLV

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Nick King> In addition to the formats already posted, here are a couple of confirmations/corrections to the World In Motion discography

Thanks Nick. It helps.

If you have a scan of the back of FAC293R and/or the disc itself, that'd be super.

/TLV

There are some scans of various New Order CD's here - feel free to use any/all of them for discogs.

l8rs,

Nick ;)

Originally posted by Andy Trivial Question:Does the 5:08 Subbuteo Dub on the UK promo have the vocal samples that appear on the 4:15 Subbuteo Dub? They're missing from the US and Canadian 5:08 Dubs.The sample I'm referring to appears 22 seconds into the track asking "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" I presume it's Keith Allen. The track also ends with someone stating "We've got 25 minutes!" followed by the same "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" sample.

Not that I can hear...

l8rs,

Nick ;)

Originally posted by Nick King There are some scans of various New Order CD's here - feel free to use any/all of them for discogs.

Very impressive. I see that you've been busy... :)

The scans will come to good use.

Thanks, /TLV

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Lars Michel> Is there any chance you can supply floyds ftp-server with this remix? I know a lot of people (including me) who have been desperately looking for this version.!

By risking being publicly executed, I can safely say that I will not u/l an mp3 to his server.

I don't necessarily think that sharing mp3s are the right thing to do - not even promo or oop material. (Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been there and done that, but we are all guilty of double-standards...)

Call me silly, but as a collector I enjoy discovering a new track/version/remix without first having heard it as an mp3. And I don't want to ruin other collectors' pleasure...

For "collectors are crazy"-threads, search the archives here, or search the Ceremony mailinglist archives...

/TLV

how many collectors do you think will have their pleasure reduced by you supplying this track? how many copies of the CD actually exist? would you prefer someone buy a bootleg at a high price on EBAY? i guess i just can't understand your position on this particular track. If you were not wanting to post the 7"dub mix of Perfect Kiss or someother MASS PRODUCED item easily found for the astute collector, i would understand...as it stands, the 2001 True Faith Remixes on CD are near impossible to find. I assume less than 100 copies exist and it's probably way less than that (excluding CDR's).

On a related note, i have both US Promo Double Packs...the black sleeved with a sticker and the plain white sleeved with no sticker. I would be willing to trade this to someone for an equally tasty platter.

Originally posted by Nick King > Originally posted by Andy> Trivial Question:> > Does the 5:08 Subbuteo Dub on the UK promo have the vocal samples that appear on the 4:15 Subbuteo Dub? They're missing from the US and Canadian 5:08 Dubs.> > The sample I'm referring to appears 22 seconds into the track asking "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" I presume it's Keith Allen. The track also ends with someone stating "We've got 25 minutes!" followed by the same "Who do you think you are? Fucking Phil Collins or what?" sample.

Not that I can hear...

l8rs,

Nick ;)

So this means those samples only appear on the UK 12"?