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Anybody lucky enough to be at the Manchester G-Mex Centre gig in 1988?

This has to be one of the defining moments in NO history. An absolute quality affair. A Certain Ratio kicked off the gig with a myriad of random songs that nobody had ever heard of, followed by The Happy Mondays in their infancy. Looked like NO had allowed them a break (never seen or heard of them really at this point).

Anyway, as The Happy Mondays were plodding through some guitar 'raw' (as if they've ever been any different) versions of their early material on walks Hooky across the stage to flick the v's at Sean Ryder. Nice bit or repoir going on there, Hooky did this about 3 times, for no apparent reason - it was funny, and what a NO gig. should be about.

Happy Mondays clear off then the hall goes silent, enter NO and 'Touched by the Hand of God' pulsating, throbbing and meaty bassline... Jeezus, absolutely sublime! - what a set ensued, absolute genius. First time I'd heard any of Technique's songs, in fact, when Vanishing Point stops near the end to allow the high hats (just before the big ending) eveybody clapped and cheered as if it had finished. Barney was not happy as someone was blowing an air horn through Bizarre Love Triangle.

Just when things couldn't get any better Age of Consent starts up and Stevey Morrisey's kit sounded like a bomb going off.

Anyway, I'll be back to Manchester (obviously, the only place to see the Order) this year when they return to gigging in the UK.

It's been a long time, and lets be honest, Get Ready was a worry, however, having downloaded the Realplayer samples from this site it sounds like, well, No, which is definately a step in the right direction from 'SOME' of the material from Republic.

Now, did I tell you the story about when my girlfriend met Peter Saville for a few hours...

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Yep, I was at G-Mex in 88. I went for the weekend with a couple of mates - we went to the Hacienda on the Friday night, went to see Man City play on the Saturday afternoon (I forget who they were playing - I just remember all the inflatable bananas!) and then went to the gig on the night. I'm pretty sure that Happy Mondays played first though? ACR played a lot of stuff from 'Force' and pretty much blew Happy Mondays away IMHO - I've seen ACR play almost as many times as New Order.

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Excellent stuff Andy, your probably right, can't remember the exact order of appearances. Did you get involved in the crowd towards the middle front of the stage? - me any mate were in it and it was pretty hard trying to stand up, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was stood on.

ACR are pretty crap, hope your not a fan. Its not that hard to blow Happy Mondays away eh!? - I heard Simon Topping went back to college recently, not too chuffed with life outside the charts... obviously not making much coin.

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I was more towards the right as you looked at the stage but during AOC and Temptation I ended up in the middle - it wasn't till afterwards that I noticed I'd completely wrecked my trainers!

I'm afraid I'm still an ACR fan :-) They lost their way when they signed to A&M but around 85/86 they were superb live - 'Wild Party' & 'Sounds Like Something Dirty' rubbing shoulders with older stuff like 'Flight'- excellent!

I hadn't heard anything of Simon Topping since he released 'Prospect Park' and did the Quando Quango stuff after leaving ACR.

And, yes, you're right, Happy Mondays weren't exactly the best live band in the world!

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Andy, I've got a USA promotional album from, I think, 1987 (3 records) featuring ACR, Gene Loves Jezebel and New Order, as well as a couple by Echo and the Bunnymen.

I think it was given out or sold in America when they toured that year. I collect NO stuff (as I imagine everyone does on this site). Could never quite get my head around the strange combination of stuff that's on this recording, any clues?

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Remember this gig so well. Fantastic night out and good to see them back on form, especially after the seated debacle of Wembley a year earlier. Had to get tout tickets for this cos they'd over-subscribed the venue and our cheques were returned.

Mondays defo opened. And did 6 songs - 4 off the just released Bummed followed by Tart Tart and Wrote For Luck, easily 2 of the finest songs in their repertoire.

ACR were awesome from what I remember. Definitely didn't do any 'random' songs, mainly Force stuff I think? And perhaps some stuff off the album which came out the following year (did they have a blonde female singer up on stage with them?). Anyhow, they're back soon - check out acrmcr.com for updates. Always good for supporting New Order.

Wonderful seeing the Order though. I swear the ruck went back 50 metres or more. I'd travelled up with 7 lads and all of us got together for Age of Consent and were jumping up and down in a big circle miles away from the stage!!! For some reason though, I remember this as the only NO gig I've been to where I've ever gone to the toilets halfway thru - and was amazed to find the toilets as mobbed as the arena!!

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Age of Consent, your right, it kicked off around then - I was pretty young, and the amount of people poggo-ing to the guitary songs put the shits up me. I watched my mate get picked up in the sway of about 100 people and floated about 30 feet across the place. I didn't catch up with him 'till about another couple of songs.

Am I the only one who watched Hooky taunting the Mondays?

ACR - 'I won't stop loving you' - a bit commercial, but possibly the best they did. If there back, what the hell do they sound like now? - 8 trumpets, a bagpipe, some blocks of wood and a band membership of 200?

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Hunter,

Bit of a combination but I'm pretty sure that New Order toured the States with the Bunnymen around 86 or 87. They also played with them at G-Mex in 86 along with ACR(ACR also toured with them in 85 if I remember correctly). Not too sure of the Gene Loves Jezebel connection though - I definitely wasn't a fan of theirs!

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Allen,

Yes, the Wembley gig was pretty poor - I took a sickie from work to go and then wore the t-shirt the next day much to the amusement of a few mates!

Mondays seemed to support New Order pretty much everywhere from around 86 onwards.

ACR definitely did some 'Force' stuff and now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure that Flo McSweeney did sing with them that night so they must have done some 'Good Together' stuff too.

I remember going to the toilets after the G Mex gig and everybody was stripped to the waist sticking their heads under the taps! Come to think of it, my t shirt was ripped during the gig too! Ah, happy days!

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Hunter,

Get hold of some earlier ACR stuff like 'Shack Up', 'Flight', 'To Each..', 'Sextet', 'Graveyard & the Ballroom', 'Wild Party' etc. as they went off the boil when they signed to A&M.

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Andy,

That was her - Flo McSweeney! The album that Good Together first appeared on (as the Big E) was awful wasn't it - sounded like Level 42 on a bad day. But the single proper - with Bez and Barney and backing vocals - wasn't bad. Fat Boy Slim and Barney doing the producing. The acrmcr stuff was okay too. Used to see ACR loads times in the early 90's; I seem to remember they played the Subterannia just about every 3 months. Saw Hooky down there once with Mal from Cabaret Voltaire - he had a floor-length mac on (in a hot club!) and my then girlfriend thought he was Eric Clapton!!

Apparently Jez has a solo project now - 24hrs - but the band are defo gonna be back soon. Someone at the Olympia gig told me that and they've got a website due soon too.

As for the Wembley gig - I've STILL got the blue flower t-shirt. Was gonna take it to the US last week for the gigs - it still fits, but is a little yellow'ed so I didn't bother!!

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Hunter, search out 'Looking for A Certain Ratio' if you can - lots of ACR classics remixed by the likes of Way Out West, Electronic and the Other Two!!

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Alright, fucking hell, you've convinced me. I'll start gathering some 'decent' ACR gear when I get the chance. It did cross my mind that they might be better than the occassional bit of stuff I've heard judging by the volume of material they have played.

Gene Loves Jezabel has definately got some connection New Order, they've gigged quite a bit-I've heard them on a few New Order bootleg live tapes.

Has anyone got 'Looking from a Hilltop' by 'Section 25' - my mate had the 12" yonks ago and I passed up the opportunity of buying it off him, I plumped for Ceremony 12" with a metallic gold cover instead. Its so nice I never dared play it!

Hunter

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Are you'z lot talking about the Wembley Arena gig.??? - I managed to blag a bootleg of the gig, I missed it... I take it it was pretty good?

This might sound like a stupid question, but can't Gillian be arsed with the band at the moment? - I've never seen her in any live pictures.

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Hunter, Wembley was SH*TE. Cracking set but a terrible venue. Not was us New order fans were used to at the time. I was stuck a postcode away from the stage; not impressed!

Gillian's not in the band at the mo'. Her and her sister did join Moby on stage in LA on Sunday night for New Dawn Fades, but that's about it. Asked her in Heathrow on Tuesday if she was gonna be making an appearance in Germany and she just giggled. But there again, she always just giggles!

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Yes, the 'Good Together' album was poor. I lost track of them a little when they started releasing stuff on Robsrecords but, as you say, they're coming back.

www.acrmcr.com should be up and running by the end of the month featuring a brand new ACR track called 'Starlight'. You can also hear some 24 Hour stuff on urbanite.co.uk

I'm afraid my Wembley T shirt hasn't stayed the distance!

Whatever happened to the Cabs?

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Hunter,

I've got it on the 'From The Hip' album. I've also got 'Girls Don't Count' in the tracing paper sleeve. And whilst we're on the subject of ACR, 'All Night Party'!

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ACR supply the theme for that Saturday night pop quiz with Suggs and Noddy Holder that's on BBC1 at the moment. Although I must confess I've not seen it yet, and my mates *know* it's ACR but don't know the tune.

Is it an old tune, or something new?

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Allen,

I'll have to watch the programme (I've never seen it). When are NO on TOTP? I hope I didn't miss it this week.

Talking of Wembley,I've only just remembered that Primal Scream supported them although I can't remember what they were like.

Did you go to Finsbury Park? I remember Mike Pickering playing a load of House stuff before the gig much to the confusion of the rare groove loving southerners!

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I know for a FACT New Order recorded Crystal live at TOTP today!

Which means it should be on tonight?

mind you, TOTP was on last night.

How did you manage to 'bump' into Gillian at the airport? -

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They recorded TOTP on Wednesday - I assumed it'd be shown last night as a precursor to the release, but no such luck.

Yes, went down to Finsbury Park. Terrible weather from what I remember. Still have a poster somewhere at home - cream, pink and black. Mike Pickering AND Mike Park played - cos they're down on the poster as MP(squared - can't do the symbol here). Brilliant gig; all the stage barriers getting crushed during ACR's set!! First time I ever saw the Mondays.

Did you know the Order were supposed to do Fins Park again in August 98, some deal with the Mean Fiddler. But the show never got publicised cos the Lighthouse Family (which WAS advertised) couldn't sell their tickets for the day before (the Saturday) and rather than take the sole price of the rigging on themselves for the Sunday, New Order decided to pull out before anyone knew anything about it!! Fookin' Lighthouse Family - shit band, no fans.

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Originally posted by Hunter Nicholas Anybody lucky enough to be at the Manchester G-Mex Centre gig in 1988?

Short webmaster note: you inverted your first and last names in your profile! You might want to rectify that, eh?

Seb.

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Yep I know what you mean. I had a Nude night t-shirt from the Hac with MP squared on it. It poured down on our way there if I remember correctly - middle of summer as well! Good old England!

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Righto' Seb, switch it if you can be arsed.

Seb, I'm new to this site and have just downloaded some mix of Sub-Culture by DJ Micro whatever, my good god are you going to take that off this site? - Such a devotional place for genuine New Order fans and a mix of that quality? - don't take this the wrong way, some of these downloads are exceptionally rare and superb to find but a throw-away bog standard load of trifle like this? - sacrilege

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  1. Looking From A Hilltop - F***ing excellent 12" 2) Don't diss ACR mofo 3) CABS - Mal emigrated to Aus. & formed band called Koo-lin Brothers or some such name & Richard H. Kirk releases a CD exery 2 weeks. 4) I agree Wembley was shite venue but band top. Primal Scream supported if I remember. Also remember that the lager came in tins, was warm and tasted of piss. That's the south of England for you.
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Originally posted by Hunter Nicholas Righto' Seb, switch it if you can be arsed.Seb, I'm new to this site and have just downloaded some mix of Sub-Culture by DJ Micro whatever, my good god are you going to take that off this site? - Such a devotional place for genuine New Order fans and a mix of that quality? - don't take this the wrong way, some of these downloads are exceptionally rare and superb to find but a throw-away bog standard load of trifle like this? - sacrilege

SubCulture? Aren't you rather referring to Dj Microflip's remix of BLUE MONDAY?

And I too agree that some of these "remixes" should be taken off the site, but for some reason Nicolas doesn't agree. I think a lot of these are just excuses to be remixes (like adding a beat to Love Vigilantes or Vanishing Point... big deal!).

Seb.

____________________ We live in a society where pizza gets to your house before the police.

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