586

This has probably been discussed here before, and its probably common kNOwledge that I just never caught on to, but what's the meaning of the title 586? I realize that a lot of the NO titles are kinda arbitrary, but I read in an old issue of Trouser Press that there's a clue to the meaning of 586 in the track Ecstasy. Can anyone help?

Five 'ates Sex, to sum to it up.

So the bit about 5-8-6 being the count of the opening bars is rubbish then? --Sam

"Does the numbers 5-8-6 have any meaning? It's to do with the structure of the song Ecstacy. Five bars followed by eight bars followed by six bars."

go to Resources and FAQs on the pulldown menu, lots of fun and usefull tidbits in there

Originally posted by Stephen's Tank Repairman It's to do with the structure of the song Ecstacy. Five bars followed by eight bars followed by six bars."

Anyway I don't understand, may be because I never composed anything.

Originally posted by almanso > Originally posted by Stephen's Tank Repairman> It's to do with the structure of the song Ecstacy. Five bars followed by eight bars followed by six bars."

sorry, but i don´t agree. Ecstacy is another classic 4/4 structure. might be a lot syncopated due to Steve´s drums. but still a 4/4 beat with 4/8/12/16 bars. except maybe on the "chorus" where you can find a 7/15 structure, but certainly not a 6 and definetely not a 5!!!

I should know since I've recorded this track... but I don't. And I haven't analyzed the track. But couldn't it be that the chord changes follows (in quarter-note beats) 20-32-24 beats (5-8-6 bars)?

At any rate, there may be a difference to what Hooky has said and what the truth is... :D

/TLV

Back in the days when I didn't know any better, I took teenage fanbase muppetry a bit too far when I wrote to Hooky to ask him where in Ecstacy the 586 explanation was.

Back came the enigmatic reply "The answer is in the New Order, but none of the New mind".

I then compounded the error by writing back to ask exactly what he meant by that.

Back came "I MEAN THE ORDER, YOU DUMMY!!!!"

Originally posted by Michael Stevens This has probably been discussed here before, and its probably common kNOwledge that I just never caught on to, but what's the meaning of the title 586? I realize that a lot of the NO titles are kinda arbitrary, but I read in an old issue of Trouser Press that there's a clue to the meaning of 586 in the track Ecstasy. Can anyone help?

It's the route number of a Greater Manchester bus that runs past a band members house as it meanders via Didsbury, chorlton, etc into 'town '( Manchester ) , the only mystery for locals is if it will 'turn up' (arrive ) on time. 'phone GM buses for timetable enquiries. 'tis a pretty route and good value for savvy travellers. Stalkers are usually weeded out so stay at home if your that way inclined

You wait for one 586, se several go the other way,and the 3 come at once.

Originally posted by Mike You wait for one 586, se several go the other way,and the 3 come at once.

'tis true enough, I myself once waited 24 hours for the 586 in vain , upon seeing my plight a shrub doctor; whom later revealed himself to be in the gainful employ of a member of a local top forty beat combo, pointed out that the 511 made the same journey but did'nt stop at Ardwick. As I thanked him for his time two 586' and a 511 went past. I hailed a cab and prayed for a tank

I causght the FAC 51 once

...err ...2 much Ecstasy here 4 my taste ,or was it XTC or extacy, extasie ekkstaci exlgkmhh-......

Floyd.

Yet again, the unsuspecting NOOL peeps fall for a GaryMac wind-up !

Mr Known Pleasures, you mistake my interest in de-regulated bus services, post-thatcher for a wind-up ?

Originally posted by Garymac Mr Known Pleasures, you mistake my interest in de-regulated bus services, post-thatcher for a wind-up ?

No, I just have a collection of bus route maps of Greater Manchester on my wall !

Originally posted by KnownPleasures No, I just have a collection of bus route maps of Greater Manchester on my wall !

why exactly???? bus-spotting isn't very rock n roll!! ;)

Originally posted by Fitter, Flabbier > Originally posted by KnownPleasures No, I just have a collection of bus route maps of Greater Manchester on my wall !

why exactly???? bus-spotting isn't very rock n roll!! ;) Says who ? Summer Holiday, set on a bus Cliff and Hank, Very Rock 'n' roll. The re-make set in M/cr ? Hooky the driver, Barney the conductor and the other two as a coupla shoppers.... Wilson can be somethin or other, and Rob Smith can be the lairy fella who pisses in bus shelters

Originally posted by Garymac > Originally posted by Fitter, Flabbier why exactly???? bus-spotting isn't very rock n roll!! ;)

Wilson can be somethin or other, and Rob Smith can be the lairy fella who pisses in bus shelters

Wouldn't that be Terry Mason ? :D

Originally posted by KnownPleasures > Originally posted by Garymac> > > > Originally posted by Fitter, Flabbier> why exactly???? bus-spotting isn't very rock n roll!! ;)

Wilson can be somethin or other, and Rob Smith can be the lairy fella who pisses in bus shelters

Wouldn't that be Terry Mason ? :D

:D If he aint available .... Pete Best:D