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After all these years......US '89 show recordings

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I have made a new discovery, that has enlightened me and reinvigorated my wish to acquire live shows.

I packed in getting New Order gigs in 1989, after the disillusion of the NEC shambles, and to this day have not really bothered with any recordings post 1987 (though I have acquired some of the better 1989 and 2002 shows). Whilst looking at the gig listings for the 1989 US tour, I realised that while they had played several songs a lot and some frequently, it hadn't been the same set every night, in fact there were some hidden gems in there occasionally.

It is thus my civic duty to collect the entire US 89 tour, and maybe even some of the US 93 shows !

Who's holding ?

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I wouldn't bother with the 93 stuff, Tim. Same set at every single gig, bar one or two which might've omitted FT or BM from the encore.

Not the best set in the world either.

I originally shared your thoughts about the 89 stuff too. Then I was pleasantly surprised to find Age of Consent on one of the 2nd stage gigs, when I wouldn't have expected it at all.

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis I wouldn't bother with the 93 stuff, Tim. Same set at every single gig, bar one or two which might've omitted FT or BM from the encore.Not the best set in the world either.I originally shared your thoughts about the 89 stuff too. Then I was pleasantly surprised to find Age of Consent on one of the 2nd stage gigs, when I wouldn't have expected it at all.

Yeah, it's on Irvine Meadows, as is All Day Long. There's a solitary As It Is in 1989, a solitary Confusion, and much of a muchness for the rest.

Who's got excellent recordings then ? I've got about ten so far,plenty of older stuff for trades.

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I too share your excitement of realising that some of the 89 tour was pure order. I only have three soundboard shows: Irvine Meadows Cuyahoga Falls, Cleveland Clarkston, Detroit

In fact, I was listening to irvine Meadows just before loging on and reading this message!

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The '89 Irvine Meadows show is one of my favorites simply due to the inclusion of Age of Consent and All Day Long. Would love to hear (about) other little treasures from that tour.

Agree w/ Al's comments about the '93 tour.

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Tim, I am up to 352 New Order live cd's, if I can help let me know

Mike

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Sure thing, it will help to make this database final if you get all thise.

Still, you really manage to listen to all of this? Personnaly, I get bored by too many bad recordings!

I think I have a few 89 gigs you know where, but you might already have them..

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Listen to them ? Never !!! There are seriously some recordings that I have never listened to the whole way through. The Brazilian ones that Julio sent me were so bad that I binned them after skipping through them, rather than listening to the whole CD. My ears are a more deserving commodity !

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Tim. Not sure if you know but I have almost a dozen of the tour on tape along with several soundchecks (Round & Round from the Boston show is outstanding)

Indeed, as Barney was in severe miserable mode he would not soundcheck so for a significant period of the second stage they basically played the same tracks every night.

I was planning on distributing what I have to anyone who wants it but during the process of collecting individual information to allow me to send the discs off I discovered a 'familiar' name and it made me stop in my tracks.

I am well aware that what I have would be quite useful for the wrong reasons in the wrong hands so I have elected to hold on for a while until I clearly decide what to do.

This is something which I am eager to discuss with a few people when I am back in the UK and one them is you so make sure you are there when we meet up or we could talk on the telephone sometime when I am back.

DM

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Nice one - I shall have to put you on the guestlist at our gig in your honour in Feb !

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Originally posted by David Molyneux Tim. Not sure if you know but I have almost a dozen of the tour on tape along with several soundchecks (Round & Round from the Boston show is outstanding)Indeed, as Barney was in severe miserable mode he would not soundcheck so for a significant period of the second stage they basically played the same tracks every night.I was planning on distributing what I have to anyone who wants it but during the process of collecting individual information to allow me to send the discs off I discovered a 'familiar' name and it made me stop in my tracks.I am well aware that what I have would be quite useful for the wrong reasons in the wrong hands so I have elected to hold on for a while until I clearly decide what to do.This is something which I am eager to discuss with a few people when I am back in the UK and one them is you so make sure you are there when we meet up or we could talk on the telephone sometime when I am back.DM

DM - Too bad. Its great that you were looking to share these gigs. I hope you find a way to share them w/ some level of comfort that they won't be abused.

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Yeah, it's on Irvine Meadows, as is All Day Long. There's a solitary As It Is in 1989, a solitary Confusion, and much of a muchness for the rest. .

Also a Face Up in New Orleans from the first leg. That was the tour that soured me as well on the live stuff. Of course I sat through several of the shows (calculated once that I saw 21 songs in 7 shows that year which was a good 2 nights when I'd followed them a couple of years earlier, and that includes the one off's of AoC, All day Long, Face up and As it is...). So other than those brief flare-ups they basically drew a 14 song set from a pool of 17 songs. Lazy, lazy, lazy...

It'd be one thing if they just didn't have them programmed in some new sequencers that they were using for the Technique songs or something (like some have said has happened to the Perfect kiss of late), but they were there as evidenced but their single shot airings as well as sub-culture from earlier that year and probably most everything they played in brazil. Oh well, that's also the tour where barney gave up guitar on BLT. I guess we're lucky they made to the stage at all, though, judging from how they looked when I was able to sit in the frontish rows.

Even my excitement about the newly surfaced soundboard from the first Irvine show is tempered by the fact that I remember being disappointed by All Day Long since Barney said they were going to play a song that they hadn't played for a "very, very long time" and my mind leapt to "Truth" since that's probably the oldest song with the Stephen on synth and both Gillian and Barney on guitar lineup. I guess a year and a half is a "very, very long time" when your sense of time is being altered on a nightly basis.:eek:

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Originally posted by Digital Mike Tim, I am up to 352 New Order live cd's, if I can help let me knowMike

Mike, you can certainly help ME! Get in touch so we can work something out, please! (I'll do the same myself.)

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Originally posted by Digital Mike Tim, I am up to 352 New Order live cd's, if I can help let me knowMike

You're only about 50 behind now then Mike !

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Originally posted by KnownPleasures Who's holding ?

i could make you a copy of the one you sent me...does that count?

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Originally posted by AgentWood > Originally posted by KnownPleasures Who's holding ?

i could make you a copy of the one you sent me...does that count?

Well it's very kind of you, but I did keep a copy for myself :thumb: :nod:

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