How many of you have actually met and chatted to New Order?
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Originally posted by velocity girl what mystery? now, now martin u can
t seriously have thought i was a middle-aged, american fella, not with all my refuting; it was simply an exercise tube tugging...and yes belfast is my home (hopefully not for much longer mind)and we do tend to be rather rude over here, so i do apologise if u were insulted..but i cant guarantee i won`t do it again, its kind of instilled unfortunately.
What's wrong with Belfast? It's alright! I've been a couple of times with one of my Latin Brazilian Type drummy bands (when I still used to play with them, but now I've left them all) and I had a great time! You must know about your annual Sea Change Carnival/Festival shindig that happens each June/July? Well, I played in one of the processions with a huge Latin band back in 96 and 97. You may recall it, perhaps? So why are you thinking of leaving Belfast then? Belfast natives are rude??? God, you should come to Manchester and experience the hospitality from these tramps........then you'll see what I really mean by "personality deficiency", buddy!!! The myth that this place is dead friendly and accommodating is exactly that....a myth. Reality is rather different. Having said that I CAN'T WAIT for next summer when this city holds the Commonwealth Games - that'll be a REAL test of this city's integrity - perhaps for England as a whole even......the shit is going to hit that fan bigtime!! Slurp slurp!!
Martin would you agree that we only seem to get the crumbs from the table oop north.Having failed to get the Olympics on several occasions Manchester has landed some common games which wether successful or not will largely be ignored. Saw Wilson on T.V. the other week attempting to big up the Imperial War Museum,it's pants, that guy who designed it looks like archietecture's version of a one hit wonder,that being his Holocaust Museum.Likewise Liverpool has undergone massive redevelopement in the last 5 yeasr but we have no recent world class buildings,oh to have a Gehry to gaize at in awe.
Dead right mate - I mean, consider this: Liverpool's last real "Golden period" was the early 80's (before 1985, it must be stressed, when Degsy Hatton and his militant regime introduced the word "Solidarriteee!!" to many previously oblivious people's vocabulary [not to mention several Bobby-Grant-starring Brookie storylines, remeber?]) Then we had a lot of international money to help boost the city's tourism, its facilities, and...um..we got the first ever International Garden Festival. I remember that period well, cuz for some reason, the vibe in the region was definitely UP; plus Liverpool FC were doing pretty well then (this was a full decade before their red nemesis from 35 miles east decided to embark on the biggest ego trip in the history of civilisation, thus rendering the formerly great spirit of the Kop but a distant 80's be-mulleted and be-shellsuited memory. Anyway, in 1983-84 Liverpool appeared to have it all: the centre of the pop universe again - check all the bands that werehappening / successful in that golden 24 month period: The Bunnymen, Frankie, OMD, Dead or Alive, Flock of Fucking Seagulls (ferchrissakes), China Crisis, Pete Wylie's Wah!, Care, Pink Military, Half Man Half Biscuit, Julian Cope (tortoiseshell not included), The Farm, and god knows how many others: all strikingly different from one another..... Apart from Albert Dock and the Tate Gallery, nothing much has really happened since then has it? Bar the odd new hotel, bus station and apartment block - but which city hasn't these nowadays?
As it appears, since the IRA bomb, Manchester has tried iys damned hardest to reinvent itself, but in my opinion, regardless of how much Euro money has come its way, all we're getting is a gradual yuppification of the area - these fucking pointless million pound penthouses. What exactly are they all about? Who within the actual city boundary of Manchester (population a mere 442,000) can afford that kind of shit? Ditto all these designer bars and the relentless gentrification process now afflicting not just Castlefield but the east side (Ancoats) of the city centre..... it's production line mediocrity on a scale never seen before. They killed the Corn Exchange - THE fave hangout for all us fans of old bookshops, vinyl emporiums, old skool clothing, chill out cafés, etc etc...and put in its place a sterile antiseptic mall with lots of fucking designer shops. A lot of the friends I know who had stalls there just lost out since the bomb, and are now struggling to pay their way .... so the extortionate rents don't fucking help. Have the planners and property corporations lost all perspective or something? Ditto Salford Quays.
Like we always suspect, London gets fucking everything, and then some. When it comes to our turn up north to get a bite of the cherry, it's always acquiescence through gritted teeth isn't it? That thing in Sheffield - National Centre For Popular Music, that bombed didn't it? Cus of lack of financial support me thinks. And the reason? Yep - that fucking oversized Wok still sucking up millions down there in Greenwich. So, we might have been fobbed off with the Commonwealth Games - plus the added insult of a shite transport infrastructure which will REALLY make things interesting for all our foreign friends next year.....hmmmm. I say, drop a bomb on The Canary Wharf. It's time for the North to get some decent recognition again...and I don't just mean fake "tokenistic regeneration" in one city centre purely as a result of a disastrous mainland bomb attack a few years back. What about all the areas surrounding it? Do they ever get a look in? One suspects never.
fuckin 'ell hooky monster, the revenge gigs at the intenational were red hot, i remember being right at the front strumming hookys bass and he would flip the bird in your face. i was 16 then and it was a blast. great memories.
