"Girls Don't Count" by Section 25

Did Ian Curtis really produce their debut single with Rob Gretton? and how did it come about?

Here ya go buddy!! (From the Section 25 Biography)

Section 25 also dabbled in booking, and in July organised an ambitious charity concert at the Blackpool Imperial Hotel on behalf of the International Year of the Child. With the Factory connection already established, the Cassidy brothers persuaded fledgling Factory artists Joy Division and Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark to appear on the bill, and despite an ill-judged cover of Sex Pistols' nadir Belsen Was a Gas, Ian Curtis and JD manager Rob Gretton were sufficiently impressed by Section 25 to encourage them to cut a record. The result was a self-financed session at Cargo Studios in Rochdale in September. Vin Cassidy later recalled:

"Ian and Rob gave us a lot of encouragement. The first time I met any of Joy Division was at a gig we did with them in Blackpool, and they liked the stuff we did. Paul and Larry had been going off to Manchester, which is about 70 miles away, and knew Rob through talking to him at gigs. So Rob heard us and said, why don't you go into a studio and do some tracks? Ian and Rob set it up. I didn't even know what a producer was until then. They said they would come down and help us out with it, which they did. Ian just sort of sat there - 'Sounds alright'. Rob picked the songs he thought we should do."

According to the Factory Discography:

http://home.dialix.com/~u3336/factory/index2.html

... he did with a certain Mr Gretton!

Thanx for the info guys, if producing is just sitting on your arse doing nothing i could do it. "Ian Curtis - Producer".