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Warsaw – The Ideal Beginning RARE UK 7” EP, issued in 1977 on Enigma Records. This is pre Joy Division. Tracks are Inside the Line / Gutz / At A Later Date. Vinyl and foldout 4 panel sleeve are Mint-.

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While we're at it...

ON DJ POLSKA LABEL from Warsaw Poland on a demo CD from a group of DJs that promote remixes and play them in the discos and night clubs in Poland. Rare 5 Track remix cd

This will never be commercially available outside Poland.

plain cd in plastic sleeve with Polish writing on disc.

Winner pays $4 air mail or £1 in UK Payment by CASH or Paypal only.

LOVE WILL TEAR US APART - MIXES

Literal Mix 6.54

Arthur Baker Remix 4.21

DJ Alterboy Remix 7.12

Don Gehman Permanent Mix 3.35

Alternate Mix 3.10

Track one is a very nice original sounding version of this song extended out

Track two is a moody slower rhythm version of this song

Track three is a dancy trance mix gallopping rhythms

Track four is the previously available Permanent version

Track five is the previously available Alternate version

This is limited to 1000 cd in Poland after the initial mailing to DJs the remainder are available to the public which I purchased a few copies knowing their worth - full excellent licenced promo cd ONLY available to The DJ Polska Pool of DJS in Warsaw Poland.

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I believe the record in your first post is 100% genuine. I've seen that before and it's either a mint original or one of the best duplicates I've seen.

The second item looks a little bit dodgier and I would definitely say is an unauthorised bootleg CD. The only Joy Division CDs I trust as genuine are either on the Factory, CentreDate, London, Qwest, or Factory Too (the live CDs) imprints, all others should be treated with extreme caution IMO.

Ally.

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The reuse of the "Ideal For Living" artwork is the thing I found funny about this.

I'm no expert in the JD discography, but so far, the warsaw demo wasn't exactly what I was expecting...

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Warsaw demo tracks with part of the Ideal For LIving sleeve design? Ever so slightly unofficial.....

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Originally posted by Ally3000 I believe the record in your first post is 100% genuine. I've seen that before and it's either a mint original or one of the best duplicates I've seen.The second item looks a little bit dodgier and I would definitely say is an unauthorised bootleg CD. The only Joy Division CDs I trust as genuine are either on the Factory, CentreDate, London, Qwest, or Factory Too (the live CDs) imprints, all others should be treated with extreme caution IMO.Ally.

NAH, the ideal beginning is definately a bootleg. i have the twelve inch version of it ,haven't seen many 7" copies tho . i suppose it is quite a rare boot if you like,they are always on ebay! The 12" version is for sale on a site for £50,people be warned - do not pay more than a tenner for copies of the 7 & 12 ideal beginning THEY ARE BOOTLEGS!

As for the second one ,BOOT! . I went to poland (zlotow) earlier this year with work, there are plenty of these cds and plenty of vinyl boots out there too,may only cost a few quid but they are all BOOTS!

regards :nuts:

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Originally posted by Nick Name Warsaw demo tracks with part of the Ideal For LIving sleeve design? Ever so slightly unofficial.....

Woops, yeah actually. I was getting mixed up with the actual Ideal For Living EP I saw in a complete JD discog a while back. But the second one does look dodgy as hell.

My mistake! :o

Ally.

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Originally posted by Spotnick While we're at it...ON DJ POLSKA LABEL from Warsaw Poland on a demo CD from a group of DJs that promote remixes and play them in the discos and night clubs in Poland. Rare 5 Track remix cdThis will never be commercially available outside Poland.plain cd in plastic sleeve with Polish writing on disc.Winner pays $4 air mail or £1 in UK Payment by CASH or Paypal only.LOVE WILL TEAR US APART - MIXESLiteral Mix 6.54Arthur Baker Remix 4.21DJ Alterboy Remix 7.12Don Gehman Permanent Mix 3.35Alternate Mix 3.10Track one is a very nice original sounding version of this song extended outTrack two is a moody slower rhythm version of this songTrack three is a dancy trance mix gallopping rhythmsTrack four is the previously available Permanent versionTrack five is the previously available Alternate versionThis is limited to 1000 cd in Poland after the initial mailing to DJs the remainder are available to the public which I purchased a few copies knowing their worth - full excellent licenced promo cd ONLY available to The DJ Polska Pool of DJS in Warsaw Poland.

Where can i get a copy of this? my girlfriend, buffy is of polish decent, she would love a copy.

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The polish cd was on ebay last week/week before so keep an eye out for it. If i see it again i'll submit a link at the bottom of this post. regards :nuts:

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Originally posted by Buffer Low:bestof: Where can i get a copy of this? my girlfriend, buffy is of polish decent, she would love a copy.

EBay...

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Originally posted by :nuts:nuts The polish cd was on ebay last week/week before so keep an eye out for it.If i see it again i'll submit a link at the bottom of this post.regards:nuts:

Thanx mate, but i doubt i will be able to afford it.

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