Is Ceremony by New Order or Joy Division — Forum Archive

25 Oct 2004, 14:09

Yeah its slow on here thesedays. ;)

I know it was written by JD but its generally known as a great NO tune.

So...?

25 Oct 2004, 14:16

Everything has already been said about that. IT IS A JOY DIVISION SONG, as its release on "Still" and the demo in "Heart and Soul" prouves it.

25 Oct 2004, 14:16

Last time we had this discussion, it was agreed that it was a Joy Division song that was also a New Order song. Then again, it is an Almanso song really, the International Date Line being what it is and all that.....

25 Oct 2004, 14:54

Originally posted by oldmonkey Then again, it is an Almanso song really

i know it´s stupid but just for a moment i felt in heaven. thanks Timbo! :D

25 Oct 2004, 22:38

Ceremony is a Joy Division song. New Order took it and made their own version.

at least, that is what I think.

25 Oct 2004, 22:48

Originally posted by 5 8 6 Ceremony is a Joy Division song. New Order took it and made their own version.at least, that is what I think.

No need to 'think' 5 8 6...it's the truth. Done. K. AR. Fine. Period!

25 Oct 2004, 23:38

Joy Division of course

26 Oct 2004, 00:57

joy division is new order.... hard to tell? :rolleyes: look at the line up, you are missing one lad**apparent hanging** and a Doll on keyboards... From what ive know Ian Curtis Didnt play guitar to well let alone wrote guitar progressions and riffs... So i say its Both. cause the same fucking people are in it

26 Oct 2004, 01:31

:evil4:

Probably the best thread ever produced on this board when we talked about it before, but buggered if I can find it?

26 Oct 2004, 01:41

Look at the titles of the dvd releases, tells you that they consider it a NO song

26 Oct 2004, 01:43

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Probably the best thread ever produced on this board when we talked about it before, but buggered if I can find it?

Yar t'is...

http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=6819

26 Oct 2004, 01:57

Originally posted by Old Blue

Yar t'is...

http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=6819

Indeed it is. Strange, I get a page full of 'Ceremony' threads when I search, including this thread, but not the original thread itself?

:scratch:

26 Oct 2004, 02:37

JD/NO - They. Are. The. Same. Fucking. Band.

;)

26 Oct 2004, 02:47

Originally posted by DreamsNeverEnd joy division is new order.... hard to tell? look at the line up, you are missing one lad**apparent hanging** and a Doll on keyboards... From what ive know Ian Curtis Didnt play guitar to well let alone wrote guitar progressions and riffs... So i say its Both. cause the same fucking people are in it

You really are an offensive piece of shit, aren't you?

26 Oct 2004, 03:39

Originally posted by Wasimple Yeah its slow on here thesedays. ;)I know it was written by JD but its generally known as a great NO tune. So...?

Well done : you've managed to reactivate the site !! :clap:

26 Oct 2004, 05:07

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Old Blue

Yar t'is...

http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=6819

Indeed it is. Strange, I get a page full of 'Ceremony' threads when I search, including this thread, but not the original thread itself?

:scratch:

Same here, but I remembered that it was Murv that started it, so did a search on his user name and up it popped... :shrug:

26 Oct 2004, 05:33

Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead JD/NO - They. Are. The. Same. Fucking. Band.

Damn straight DC - as per AHW's introduction of Alan Wild at Move2002...:D

26 Oct 2004, 06:27

Let's agree here... It's a song by Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Ian Curtis...

If the surviving members wouldn't have changed their name, you wouldn't ask this question anyways.

It's the same damned band, so this isn't a question... it's written by Joy Division, but it's a New Order song.

26 Oct 2004, 06:33

Originally posted by Spotnick Let's agree here... It's a song by Bernard Sumner, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Ian Curtis...If the surviving members wouldn't have changed their name, you wouldn't ask this question anyways.It's the same damned band, so this isn't a question... it's written by Joy Division, but it's a New Order song.

I'm more concerned about your search facility not working properly, Nicos. :skeptic: :nod: :laugh:

26 Oct 2004, 06:45

:laugh:

Nothing like classic threads to passd the time.

26 Oct 2004, 06:52

http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=9419

However I can't find the "other one" Al, I believe it doesn't have Ceremony in the title then.

26 Oct 2004, 12:20

Written by Joy Division. Performed by New Order. OK?

26 Oct 2004, 12:41

Originally posted by oldmonkey > Originally posted by DreamsNeverEnd> joy division is new order.... hard to tell? look at the line up, you are missing one lad**apparent hanging** and a Doll on keyboards... From what ive know Ian Curtis Didnt play guitar to well let alone wrote guitar progressions and riffs... So i say its Both. cause the same fucking people are in it

You really are an offensive piece of shit, aren't you?

im actually the biggest youngest Fan of New order there is out here in Southern california i can tell you that... i can prove it... Well Spike is my pal... hes 16 hes preety damn young.. so i guess ill say hes the youngest on the east coast... :cry:

26 Oct 2004, 13:15

You might like to think about your tasteless comments about Ian Curtis and Gillian then if you are the fan you claim to be.

26 Oct 2004, 16:38

The argument that JD and NO are the same band doesn't really hold much weight when the members themselves don't see it that way. I quote Hooky speaking in the late 80s about the name change:

"We felt it wasn't Joy Division anymore so it was quite natural to change the name."

26 Oct 2004, 19:02

Originally posted by DreamsNeverEnd > Originally posted by oldmonkey > Originally posted by DreamsNeverEnd> joy division is new order.... hard to tell? look at the line up, you are missing one lad**apparent hanging** and a Doll on keyboards... From what ive know Ian Curtis Didnt play guitar to well let alone wrote guitar progressions and riffs... So i say its Both. cause the same fucking people are in it

You really are an offensive piece of shit, aren't you?

im actually the biggest youngest Fan of New order there is out here in Southern california i can tell you that... i can prove it... Well Spike is my pal... hes 16 hes preety damn young.. so i guess ill say hes the youngest on the east coast... :cry:

Au contraire, I'm younger than you, and I'm the bigger NO fan, and we can settle this with a showdown at Chatsworth Park, Mason Park, Stoney Point, the Munch Box, wherever :p.

BTW Don't claim you are the biggest, youngest fan because there will always be someone younger and more obsessed than you.

26 Oct 2004, 20:11

I can only go with what New Order say. On both my original 12# and 7# the song is credited to Joy Division.

27 Oct 2004, 21:39

HA Tristan!!! lets do the show down at In N Out.

well it appears everywhere i go in the Scene im the only one that goes on about new order IN DETAIL and know so much more then all those hipster kids Moving their legs to Ladytron or somesort... so this is from observation here... im sure Globally im a NOOB :p

27 Oct 2004, 21:45

Originally posted by DreamsNeverEnd HA Tristan!!! lets do the show down at In N Out.well it appears everywhere i go in the Sceneim the only one that goes on about new order IN DETAILand know so much more then all those hipster kids Moving their legs to Ladytron or somesort...so this is from observation here... im sure Globally im a NOOB :p

YOU and Tris are both little young buck punks! I'll take you both anytime!!! Younger does not always = better.

Peace out my gangsta pimp bitches!!

28 Oct 2004, 05:22

Originally posted by Doctor Clayhead JD/NO - They. Are. The. Same. Fucking. Band.;)

agreed.and.I.prefer.Ceremony.live.so.much.energy.in.that.song.picture.me.and.then.you.start.watching.