First single: Krafty - Radio Release: January 24th

Could someone please explain what does "KRAFTY" mean cause I can't find it in my dictionary

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by NObabe> Could someone please explain what does "KRAFTY" mean cause I can't find it in my dictionary

Crafty, spelt with a K, presumably?!

You think so? OK then. But what if it ain't so? And why is English such a pain in a butt language?

Rafty, with a K added at the beginning. Or perhaps "drafty" with a K instead of a D.

Well i'm going to be the first to say i dont like it.

if you have it, send it to me and i'll host it on my web space!

Originally posted by Revenge Of The Clone Well it IS an homage to Kraftwerk and those of you out there who like the technoish side of NewOrder will be very pleased with this.As a matter of fact, I managed to get a MP3 of it!!!!!!!! Just tell me where to send it and I'll be glad to share.

is this you telling lies again Seb?

Wouldnt be the first time. Lol. i assume this has stopped your suicidal tendencies?

of course, i forget. :)

How come none of this news in on WIM yet?

"Hotline to Hooky" my arse...

I like 'Krafty' as a name for the single and look forward to hearing it on the radio soon. I don't really like the album name, but so what eh? things are about to get exciting......

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Homage to Kraftwerk, per chance?! :D

Regardless, I'm going to at least pretend it is a Canadian homage to "Kraft Dinner". (canadian brand macaroni and cheese).

Staying on the food theme, it made me think of Kraft cheese slices. Nice

Originally posted by NObabe Could someone please explain what does "KRAFTY" mean cause I can't find it in my dictionary

I reckon it refers to German, "Kraft" (yep, halfway to Kraftwerk). So in English it may mean something like "Mighty".

It also could be the name of a character in the song. Maybe it's a story about a hooligan son of a Kraft Foods top manager/owner.

Kraftwerk = Power station

Which also the name of that collaboration between Duran Duran's bassist and the Addicted To Love guy. They did a bad cover of Get It On.

Maybe they wanted to call it 'Kraft' but had to stick the Y on to avoid copyright scuffles?

...what ? 'Krafty' ? a li'l disappointing, isn't it ? should better entitled in 'Krusty' !...

hahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!...............

Originally posted by The Saviour hahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!...............

Originally posted by The Saviour ...what ? 'Krafty' ? a li'l disappointing, isn't it ? should better entitled in 'Krusty' !...hahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!...............

Don't worry, Barney'll rename it the way you suggested just at a first gig to happen. :D

I've just woke up and got out of my coffin,just logged on and seen the news about the new single..

And did Warner confirm Phil as an official member of the band? I still can't face this as real.

Well, in the most pessimist view it is the first side-project with three members of the original band.

Its one howler of a title this,i hope its only a working title cos its shite! Makes the album title sound mature. I also hope its not trying to sound ypung and hip and they`ve lost all their senses! Krafty? Kunts!

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Røbertão> Well, in the most pessimist view it is the first side-project with three members of the original band.

I don't see the difference from the Get Ready tour, Phil's with the band since 2001. Most people here must feel very happy that it's not Billy Corgan ;)

I personally am delighted to learn that Phil is now an official member of the band, after watching the 5 11 performance.

stupid names for albums and songs...but if it sounds good, who the fook cares? after all, most new order titles have nothing to do with anything.

As long as they don't take 6 months to release it in the U.S., I'll be happy

I'm very happy with the single title, especially if it is a very electronic based song. Can't wait!

For some reason, I'm remided of an old Beastie Boys' song.

I guess if the track is a bit cheesy it'll be forever doomed to be remembered as a Kraft Single.

*cough cough*

The other aspect is that it's a little close to Krafty Kuts, the festival-headlining breakbeat merchant. Perhaps Lee Coombs has been in the picture again.

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hmmmm...not a fan of either the album title or the song...I'm inclined to agree with the comment about Gretton making a difference. Didn't care for "Get Ready" as a title either.

Krafty sounds like one of those placeholder titles e.g. the balearic one" etc and not a finished title.

Kitch is fine but we should all remember that "there is a fine line between cleverness and stupidity"

Originally posted by Old Blue How come none of this news in on WIM yet?"Hotline to Hooky" my arse...

I believe Shug has the hotline to Hooky now!!

Homage to Kraftwerk .Hmmm.They already did in my opinion with KW1 and some of the synths on 1963 were quite "Krafty"!!.:)

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Voice Of Treason .> Homage to Kraftwerk .Hmmm.They already did in my opinion with KW1 and some of the synths on 1963 were quite "Krafty"!

KW1 isn't a homage though really, is it? This has been mentioned here before. Yes, it uses synths, but that's where the comparison stops. It sound fcuk all like any Kraftwerk track I can think of. They may as well have called it DM1

I think the sequencer line does sound pretty similar to 'Europe endless' on 'Trans Europe Express' - I could certainly see them getting inspiration from that for YSF. Krafty? shite title though - much prefer the album one.

I don't think that the single name is Krafty.... I think there is a mix going around of new order song done by DJ Krafty and someone has got mixed up big time..... So if anyone can tell me otherwise I refuse to believe it until it is confirmed 100%

We all should have a little

Originally posted by T . I don't think that the single name is Krafty.... I think there is a mix going around of new order song done by DJ Krafty and someone has got mixed up big time..... So if anyone can tell me otherwise I refuse to believe it until it is confirmed 100%We all should have a little

it was confirmed, by Warner France.

Originally posted by MYOB > Originally posted by T .> I don't think that the single name is Krafty.... I think there is a mix going around of new order song done by DJ Krafty and someone has got mixed up big time..... So if anyone can tell me otherwise I refuse to believe it until it is confirmed 100%> > > We all should have a little

it was confirmed, by Warner France.

oh yeah where???? not on their website that's for sure

derriere et coude syndrome again?

Originally posted by oldmonkey derriere et coude syndrome again?

so an elbow behind sydrome again???? that stupid.... which planet are you from????

Me? I'm from Planet Darts.

Arse or Elbow syndrome is quite common amongst record companies, particularly Warner France. I'd wager a small sum (saving the rest for gig tickets), that the single is probably this Jetstream song, and that DJ Krafty has done a remix, and that some bozo in Warner has missed a line of the press release.

Originally posted by oldmonkey Me? I'm from Planet Darts.Arse or Elbow syndrome is quite common amongst record companies, particularly Warner France. I'd wager a small sum (saving the rest for gig tickets), that the single is probably this Jetstream song, and that DJ Krafty has done a remix, and that some bozo in Warner has missed a line of the press release.

ok your on.... (see your just as normal as I am) errr... but then I agree with you too.....
Signed T... (on behalf of Andy Fordham)

Originally posted by oldmonkey Me? I'm from Planet Darts.Arse or Elbow syndrome is quite common amongst record companies, particularly Warner France. I'd wager a small sum (saving the rest for gig tickets), that the single is probably this Jetstream song, and that DJ Krafty has done a remix, and that some bozo in Warner has missed a line of the press release.

Bit of the old monkey magic.

It sounds plausible and I'd personally like to think so. But DJ Krafty? Who is this? There's the fairly well known breaks DJ Krafty Kuts from Finger Lickin' Records, cohort of Lee Coombs. But his mixing style is often more 'party breaks', slower hip hop stuff, not the sort of style that would rest well with NO. There's also a DJ Krafty Werk, arf arf, who seems to cut trancey remixes of Kraftwerk... Unlikely.

Krafty is a kind of wishy-washy song title, neither here nor there. Does sound like another working title. Cooler if they just named it Crafty, or Craft, or erm, Jetstream.

Unfortunately it appears that gone are the days of the band sitting around tossing really cool words about and juxtaposing them, the pre-GR technique. Now we get rather un-NO titles like "Slow Jam", "Rock the Shack" and "WftSC". Regrettably, less Underworld and more Black Crowes. Perhaps it's the absence of the guiding hand of Gretton, who knows.

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Originally posted by depthcharge > Originally posted by oldmonkey Me? I'm from Planet Darts.Arse or Elbow syndrome is quite common amongst record companies, particularly Warner France. I'd wager a small sum (saving the rest for gig tickets), that the single is probably this Jetstream song, and that DJ Krafty has done a remix, and that some bozo in Warner has missed a line of the press release.

Bit of the old monkey magic.

It sounds plausible and I'd personally like to think so. But DJ Krafty? Who is this? There's the fairly well known breaks DJ Krafty Kuts from Finger Lickin' Records, cohort of Lee Coombs. But his mixing style is often more 'party breaks', slower hip hop stuff, not the sort of style that would rest well with NO. There's also a DJ Krafty Werk, arf arf, who seems to cut trancey remixes of Kraftwerk... Unlikely.

Krafty is a kind of wishy-washy song title, neither here nor there. Does sound like another working title. Cooler if they just named it Crafty, or Craft, or erm, Jetstream.

Unfortunately it appears that gone are the days of the band sitting around tossing really cool words about and juxtaposing them, the pre-GR technique. Now we get rather un-NO titles like "Slow Jam", "Rock the Shack" and "WftSC". Regrettably, less Underworld and more Black Crowes. Perhaps it's the absence of the guiding hand of Gretton, who knows.

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Yep either that or as per the interview with NO they all said it was Gillians idea of actually making the titles suit the songs....the rest had never thought about it before like that.

Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Voice Of Treason .> Homage to Kraftwerk .Hmmm.They already did in my opinion with KW1 and some of the synths on 1963 were quite "Krafty"!

KW1 isn't a homage though really, is it? This has been mentioned here before. Yes, it uses synths, but that's where the comparison stops. It sound fcuk all like any Kraftwerk track I can think of. They may as well have called it DM1

Yeah guess not but the very first time i listened to 1963 it reminded me of some of the sounds on Kraftwerk`s Computer World.Anyway whatever..

Al, DM1 after me

24th being a monday,im assuming this will be the bands original version of the track. If we`re lucky Pete Tong may play one of the remixes on his show on 21st march which is the friday before-after all he works for London Records,and was the first person to play 'Crystal'.

Originally posted by SteveOne 24th being a monday,im assuming this will be the bands original version of the track. If we`re lucky Pete Tong may play one of the remixes on his show on 21st march which is the friday before-after all he works for London Records,and was the first person to play 'Crystal'.

okay if you say so..... I'll be tuning in.....

Anybody think they should release a digital download of the single at the same time it goes to radio? The Doves & U2 both have recently months before their singles were available in the shops, might reduce everybody downloading it of kazaa.

Originally posted by John Williams Anybody think they should release a digital download of the single at the same time it goes to radio? The Doves & U2 both have recently months before their singles were available in the shops, might reduce everybody downloading it of kazaa.

Welcome JOHN and interesting QUESTION.I wouldn't want it without the ARTWORK but how much would it cost for a SINGLE download?Probably make a bit of money for the LADS so not a bad idea. Regards ROCKET MICK

Highly unlikely. The Order have never exactly embraced the internet, they don't even have their own official site, and the site they had set up for Get Ready was little more than an advert, nowt worth looking at on there.

Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by John Williams> Anybody think they should release a digital download of the single at the same time it goes to radio? The Doves & U2 both have recently months before their singles were available in the shops, might reduce everybody downloading it of kazaa.

Welcome JOHN and interesting QUESTION.I wouldn't want it without the ARTWORK but how much would it cost for a SINGLE download?Probably make a bit of money for the LADS so not a bad idea. Regards ROCKET MICK

I paid 99p for Doves Black And White Town digital download recently.Will still buy the single too when it hits the shops.I`m a bit of a fan.

I like it, good name!