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Perfect Kiss (pure, undiluted 9 minute version) WFTSC Blue Monday (get it over with NOW) True Faith (original) BLT (original) Krafty Age of Consent Vanishing Point new LP song (dance) new LP song (dance) Shadowplay This Time of Night Everything's Gone Green Angel Dust new LP song (rock)
Encore: Ceremony Dreams Never End 586/Temptation
Five new songs +:
Ceremony EGG Thieves 5-8-6 Your Silent Face TPK Way of Life BLT True Faith Dream Attack Vanishing Point Fine Time Regret World Someone Like You
Three new ones and... the dreamteam
Regret Dreams Never End Thieves Like Us Age of Consent Love Vigilantes True Faith Dream Attack Vanishing Point Love Less BLT Temptation 1963 Broken Promise Ceremony TPK
Encore, two and a half hours later: Blue Monday Way of Life / LWTUA Here To Stay / Transmission
No offense to Joy Division, but I just think the majority of Bernard's attempts to sing Curtis' tunes are lukewarm.
Ceremony Krafty As it is when it was The Perfect Kiss Leave me alone Sooner Than You Think Procession Love Vigilantes Angel Dust Run The Village Sunrise
Encore: Regret Confusion Age of consent Temptation
Ok now I'm ready to predict the set list for Coachella I think they will play 17 songs, and unlike the get ready tour, they will show off their new cd by playing alot of songs from it. I think only one Joy division song as that was the theme last tour. I would like see Here to stay but i really dont think they would play it.
Who's Joe? (I can so see this opening the show)
Crystal
Regret
Krafty (They like to play their new singles early in the show)
Road to ruin (Phil's favorite on the cd, cuz he mostly made it, so I think he will want to play it)
Run (They will finally bring back technique into this tour)
Leave me alone (The retro song of the night) (I know Peter wants to play Thieves like us again, so it might be that)
Jetstream
Waiting for the sirens call
BLt (Sadly I dont think the last 4 songs will change)
True Faith
Temptation
Love will tear us apart
Turn (I doubt they will play it, but its my favorite song on the cd!)
Round & round (again technique will be played this tour)
Encore: 16. Blue Monday (sadly) 17. Working overtime (Just like when they ended their shows with Sister ray)
Encore: 15. TPK 16. Temptation
also add in 3 more new tracks except Working Overtime 
Originally posted by Turn Jim Ok now I'm ready to predict the set list for Coachella I think they will play 17 songs, and unlike the get ready tour, they will show off their new cd by playing alot of songs from it. I think only one Joy division song as that was the theme last tour. I would like see Here to stay but i really dont think they would play it.
Think Jim's hit it on the head. I think these gigs are gonna be like the Technique shows. LOTS of tracks from the new album. They're defo gonna play more than Get Ready. I reckon you could see a fairly even split of Sirens and old stuff. Say, 7 or 8 off the new album, and then, more than likely, just the 'obvious' singles. I reckon the JD stuff, bar LWTUA25, will be missing.
I'd now go for something like -
Who's Joe? Crystal Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Regret Krafty Turn Hey Now What You Doing Morning Night And Day Waiting For The Sirens Call BLT True Faith Temptation LWTUA
Working Overtime Jetstream Blue Monday
Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Turn Jim Ok now I'm ready to predict the set list for Coachella I think they will play 17 songs, and unlike the get ready tour, they will show off their new cd by playing alot of songs from it. I think only one Joy division song as that was the theme last tour. I would like see Here to stay but i really dont think they would play it.
Think Jim's hit it on the head. I think these gigs are gonna be like the Technique shows. LOTS of tracks from the new album. They're defo gonna play more than Get Ready. I reckon you could see a fairly even split of Sirens and old stuff. Say, 7 or 8 off the new album, and then, more than likely, just the 'obvious' singles. I reckon the JD stuff, bar LWTUA25, will be missing.
I'd now go for something like -
Who's Joe? Crystal Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Regret Krafty Turn Hey Now What You Doing Morning Night And Day Waiting For The Sirens Call BLT True Faith Temptation LWTUA
Working Overtime Jetstream Blue Monday
I'd be thrilled with that set Al. Put in Here To Stay and Ceremony and you've got a winner!
You guys are worrying about Set lists, hell I just want them to have a big U.S. tour and come to my state (Arizona). I dont care what they play I just want to see them before they retire.
Originally posted by Matt Unks You guys are worrying about Set lists, hell I just want them to have a big U.S. tour and come to my state (Arizona). I dont care what they play I just want to see them before they retire.
This has to be a set-up, right? 
Good point about JD (or rather 24HPP) being the theme for the last dates and thus given a greater priority in the set, but I don't quite buy the idea that they are going to dominate the set with tracks from the new album. Unless they have specifically set out to prepare them all for live performance (and I sincerely hope that is the case), I suspect that it'll be the same as 2001/02, Greatest Hits plus a few from the new release. Maybe the same amount of JD given the 25th anniversary, maybe not. Pretty safe bet that we'll see Krafty and Working Overtime, Hey Now What You Doing and Waiting For The Sirens Call though, and probably Who's Joe.
Originally posted by Al Jarvis Who's Joe?CrystalGuilt Is A Useless EmotionRegretKraftyTurnHey Now What You DoingMorning Night And DayWaiting For The Sirens CallBLTTrue FaithTemptationLWTUAWorking OvertimeJetstream Blue Monday
Hard to fault this - maybe Krafty as the opener possibly. If they do this set it'll be a cracking show!
Originally posted by oldmonkey > Originally posted by Al Jarvis Who's Joe?CrystalGuilt Is A Useless EmotionRegretKraftyTurnHey Now What You DoingMorning Night And DayWaiting For The Sirens CallBLTTrue FaithTemptationLWTUAWorking OvertimeJetstream Blue Monday
Hard to fault this - maybe Krafty as the opener possibly. If they do this set it'll be a cracking show!
Wot, no Ceremony?????
Originally posted by oldmonkey > Originally posted by Al Jarvis Who's Joe?CrystalGuilt Is A Useless EmotionRegretKraftyTurnHey Now What You DoingMorning Night And DayWaiting For The Sirens CallBLTTrue FaithTemptationLWTUAWorking OvertimeJetstream Blue Monday
Hard to fault this - maybe Krafty as the opener possibly. If they do this set it'll be a cracking show!
I'll fault it. Get rid of most of the lame new songs.
Basically I'd like to see as little of Get Ready as possible on this tour. They will play them but I'd also like to see the back of Regret, Blue Monday and even Temptation 12" so as to allow other songs to be heard in their place, especially if they're never-performed ones from older albums. Temptation/Blue Monday are tedious, predictable chasms in NO gigs clocking in at over 8 minutes each, think how many shorter tracks we could get instead. I've propose a few Radio edits so we can get more "New Order for our buck" as the yanks would say.
Main set: True Faith '98Waiting For The Sirens' CallKrafty (Edit version)Age of consentCrystal (Edit version)Morning Night And DaySooner Than You ThinkEverything's Gone Green/I Told You So (Electro Medley)Everyone EverywhereTemptation '98 (4:08 version)WeirdoJetstreamFace UpTurnPerfect Kiss (Like Reading '93)
Encore:Hey Now What You DoingAs It Is When It Was
I saw some previous posts with nothing but '80-85 songs and I thought that's either blatantly taking the piss or really worrying 
Who in their right mind would want to hear Movement songs live in 2005 rather than hearing the band try out their latest fresh WFTSC stuff? It's like wanting the entire Rocking Carol flexi disc at the forefront of the setlist cos you had a really nice time at the Hacienda Christmas night. Movement was a shite JD-lite record, and while it was an understandably shite JD-lite record, I think Barney not even remembering writing the songs and in fact "doesn't even own a copy" ensures no inclusion of it whatsoever in the setlist (Bar perhaps the saving grace Dreams Never End, but I doubt it)
Anyway I hope they do something interesting with the setlist this time around. 2001's gigs were dominated by horribly samey guitar numbers like Slow Jam, Close Range, and even Transmission (Live JD songs will never ever have the power of the records, nor without Ian on "whoop-less" vocals) I'd predominantly like to see alot of new stuff otherwise New Order really will become the new wave Rolling Stones. I thought an electro medley of new track I Told You So and EGG might sound dead interesting and prove the band are still as relevant as they were in '82. I do love the old stuff as much as the next fan with Low-life still cutting deep and there are definitely a couple of "elderly" numbers that would have a damn-near holy effect on me if they were played (true to the original arrangements of course) at the forthcoming gigs.
Cheers, Ally.
Originally posted by Ally3000 Basically I'd like to see as little of Get Ready as possible on this tour. They will play them but I'd also like to see the back of Regret, Blue Monday and even Temptation 12" so as to allow other songs to be heard in their place, especially if they're never-performed ones from older albums. Temptation/Blue Monday are tedious, predictable chasms in NO gigs clocking in at over 8 minutes each, think how many shorter tracks we could get instead. I've propose a few Radio edits so we can get more "New Order for our buck" as the yanks would say.Main set:True Faith '98Waiting For The Sirens' CallKrafty (Edit version)Age of consentCrystal (Edit version)Morning Night And DaySooner Than You ThinkEverything's Gone Green/I Told You So (Electro Medley)Everyone EverywhereTemptation '98 (4:08 version)WeirdoJetstreamFace UpTurnPerfect Kiss (Like Reading '93)
Encore:Hey Now What You DoingAs It Is When It Was
I saw some previous posts with nothing but '80-85 songs and I thought that's either blatantly taking the piss or really worrying
Anyway I hope they do something interesting with the setlist this time around. 2001's gigs were dominated by horribly samey guitar numbers like Slow Jam, Close Range, and even Transmission (Live JD songs will never ever have the power of the records, nor without Ian on "whoop-less" vocals) I'd predominantly like to see alot of new stuff otherwise New Order really will become the new wave Rolling Stones. I thought an electro medley of new track I Told You So and EGG might sound dead interesting and prove the band are still as relevant as they were in '82. I do love the old stuff as much as the next fan with Low-life still cutting deep and there are definitely a couple of "elderly" numbers that would have a damn-near holy effect on me if they were played (true to the original arrangements of course) at the forthcoming gigs.
Cheers, Ally.
Best & Marsh Live in 2005!
Bah! I, for one, would like to hear Movement songs in 2005 instead of the new stuff. Naysayers be damned! Roll on, Movement!!
Originally posted by Dashiell Hannett Someone's got to be up in the front spittle-range rows screaming "PLAY WARSAW"
I've promised several people to scream out "Play Decades, you old fuckers!!" at least once between songs. :D
Tristan and I discussed bringing along a large whiteboard so we can hold up our ideal setlists. Then we can write the lyrics out on the whiteboard so Barney won't have to use his autocue as an excuse. 
New Order have such an immense back catalogue now, that i cant even attempt to make a setlist, its insane how many classics there are.
Crystal Turn Ceremony Regret Waiting for the Sirens Call Thieves Like Us Hey Joe Morning Night And Day Jetstream Bizarre Love Triangle True Faith Temptation Blue Monday Love Will Tear Us Apart + Working Overtime Age of Consent The Perfect Kiss
Nae bad, but someone would need to start programming
Originally posted by SteveOne Everythings Gone Green would be great,but unlikely to happen. I dont buy this "it takes too long to program the songs" shite,they could sample the original synth sections and add live guitars and drums.
sure EGG's unlikely (I wouldn't bet on hearing anything they haven't played from '98 forward except the new tracks), but it's no more unlikely IMO than Isolation, Transmission, Digital, Guilty Partner, Run or In a Lonely Place, so I put it in b/c I think there's likely to be one or two surprises. Not night after night changes, mind you, but just some songs that you wouldn't necessarily be able to guess at before the tour started. And I want to hear EGG so I put it in, and I don't think it's as much of a stretch (it's still very relevant musically) as say some obscure b-side or album track. Personally, I'd rather hear Lonesome Tonight or The Village, but I'm not going to propose personal favorites for an ideal setlist, because I'd rather go to a concert that enraptures the audience from start to finish instead of one that includes moments that induce a mad rush to the beer line or bathroom.
Originally posted by David Lubetsky New Order have such an immense back catalogue now, that i cant even attempt to make a setlist, its insane how many classics there are.
That's okay. Chances are good they won't play any of them. I mean, it is their back catalogue, after all. 
Encore
Now, that would please most people, isn't it? :D
The more I think about it, this is what my estimated set would be: (not personal favourites, but a likely set)
Jetstream Blue Monday Working Overtime
Originally posted by Spotnick How about changing the setlist at each show?
Nonsense. Didn't they change EVERY setlist on the BDO tour Down Under three years ago?!
Radically! 
I reckon we might get a diluted support slot somewhere, along the lines of -
Lordsy Crystal Waiting For the Sirens Call Regret Krafty Turn JetStream BLT True Faith Temptation LWTUA Blue Monday
And then a more beefed up headlining slot of -
Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Working Overtime Blue Monday
And then a radical change for their next headlining slot with, er -
Working Overtime Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Blue Monday
You not think they'll resurrect at least one golden oldie, as with "YSF" and "LV" at Liverpool in 2001????
