Waiting For the Album To Leak?

WFTSC has leaked. Those who are interested, head to SLSK.

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Back to leaked list New Order - Waiting for the Sirens Call

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Tracklist:

1. Who’s Joe?
2. Hey Now What You Doing
3. Waiting For The Sirens’ Call
4. Krafty
5. I Told You So
6. Morning Night And Day
7. Dracula’s Castle
8. Jetstream
9. Guilt Is A Useless Emotion
10. Turn
11. Working Overtime

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checked soulseek. not on there now.

haven't seen it yet either but have seen response from those who have found it.

Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid haven't seen it yet either but have seen response from those who have found it.

What are they saying about it BLT?

If it had been leaked it would be on BearShare. They have loads of NO stuff.

7. Dracula’s Castle

Oh god no

Shouldn't you true new order fans be totally against all this leaking and illegal downloads of music? Wait till it comes out, you'll just be bored of it when it's released.

Originally posted by Adam R Shouldn't you true new order fans be totally against all this leaking and illegal downloads of music? Wait till it comes out, you'll just be bored of it when it's released.

If it has leaked, It has come out!

We will all doubtless go out and buy it anyhow (in multiple formats for some too!) Also, P2P isnt illegal. No money exchanges hands. Were I to make you an audio tape with some songs on it and give it to you, it wouldnt be illegal. Were I to charge you, it would be.

I checked soulseek and didn't see it on there. What do you search under? Do you have to search using a unique acronym, like WFTSC?

Have you tried Etomi!!!!

I have been checking SLSK since day one; nothing has popped up there yet.

We'll have to keep each other posted if it pops up...

Has anyone heard a leaked copy yet? If so, what p2p did you use? Either way, I am hesitant to use anything else besides slsk, because slsk doesn't put spyware on your comp.

Originally posted by Clockwork C We will all doubtless go out and buy it anyhow (in multiple formats for some too!) Also, P2P isnt illegal. No money exchanges hands. Were I to make you an audio tape with some songs on it and give it to you, it wouldnt be illegal. Were I to charge you, it would be.

*I wish it was like you say. Unfortunately it isn't. File sharing itself is illegal, that's what politicians, record companies and the cops think. Those who've been caught sharing have been seriously fined. So be careful. I don't say it's immoral, it's just illegal. I think I've read oral sex is forbidden in certain states of America, this doesn't mean it's a bad thing, does it? ;) File sharing is good. We've all heard Krafty thanks to our sharing, and we'll all buy the single anyway. It's the use you make of it that can be good or bad. But if you talk about law, it doesn't matter, it's just illegal, even sharing one file. Of course if you share large amounts of stuff you get more trouble, don't even mention asking money. So keep on sharing, but carefully.

Can't leak something that's not done.

Originally posted by twist Can't leak something that's not done.

Eh? I'm sure it's all done and ready to go now!

Originally posted by Clockwork C > Originally posted by Adam R> Shouldn't you true new order fans be totally against all this leaking and illegal downloads of music? Wait till it comes out, you'll just be bored of it when it's released.

If it has leaked, It has come out!

We will all doubtless go out and buy it anyhow (in multiple formats for some too!) Also, P2P isnt illegal. No money exchanges hands. Were I to make you an audio tape with some songs on it and give it to you, it wouldnt be illegal. Were I to charge you, it would be.

P2P is illegal, it's why the RIAA are suing poeple who download music off P2P programs. According to them it's affecting record sales, and when you think about it, it probably is. I know you'd buy the album even if you downloaded it but it's still not the point. I still use p2p myself just im a bit more wary now. just gotta be careful.

I'm gonna make sure i don't download WFTSC though, i wanna go to the shop and look forward to buying it.

Theres a few really crappy song titles in there - I dont think thats the finished article

at least i hope its not

ive been following the fights and arguments over leaking and downloading over on Doves forum regarding their new album, now its started on here.

c'mon... its fun to sneak a peek sometimes... most people here are going to buy it anyway (unless they totally hate what they hear, i guess). people who burn it for free will burn it for free whether it is put online now or in two months. people who always buy it will buy it when it comes out...

20 years ago some people were taping albums for free all the time... this isnt a new issue, and pretty much everybody is familar with the issue.

For me its not about whether someone gets the music for free. I know I'll have the album pre-ordered as soon as I can. But it will spoil it for me somewhat to hear it from a P2P. Just how I feel, I don't care if someone wants to download it.

It's all changed over time, hasn't it? Technology has made everything so much more immediate - years ago when I used to trade tapes with people, I would wait a couple of weeks for a letter, list update and a batch of goodies - nowadays everything can be put online and lifted off the net, instant messengers and all that mean that you can have realtime conversations with several people across the world at the same time.....fabulous really, except it increases expectation and decimates patience. People are no longer content with hearing the new stuff on the radio a couple of weeks before it is released, and then rushing down to buy the record when it comes out, if there is the slightest chance of a P2P these days, some people are there like vultures. Everything has to be right now! I blame MTV personally ;)

Part of the great thing about New Order, which has long since been consigned to the trash can of the memory, was the way in which new songs were introduced. You'd get these half-finished song ideas played at you at gigs, and by the time they were next played they would have evolved a bit, moved forward possibly in terms of lyrical development etc, and you would get to know them that way. There was no great pressure to get hold of the product weeks before it was available, you already knew roughly what to expect. When the record came out, you could go down the store and get a copy, then marvel at how they had turned these works-in-progress into polished tunes. I well remember a number of letters and phone conversations I had in 1986 with Snotters and Dave Simpson about what was likely to be on the new album (Brotherhood) - we had pieced together several tunes from the new stuff they had been adding to the set, but it wasn't until the September 86 dates that we got the full picture, with the addition of Angel Dust, ELC and All Day Long to the set. We'd known all the Low Life stuff from way back, same with much of PCL. Obviously the band changed their approach to live performance between Brotherhood and Technique, so when the Technique songs were played they were already the finished article.

http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=39290

I hope Mr Paradise gets the right thing this time...

Yesterday evening I queued up a 45MB file of the album in slsk. However it also had "FAKE!!!" in the title, so it's probably a ...erm... fake... :D I had to turn off my computer yesterday, so I did not get the file yet to check whether it's real or not. Hopefully more luck tonight.

I have just got Jetstream and Dracula's Castle lined up for download on Etomi! Will be takin them straight outa my folder though so they cant go any further.

Originally posted by Old Blue http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=39290I hope Mr Paradise gets the right thing this time...

fingers crossed!

Originally posted by BIG DICK I have just got Jetstream and Dracula's Castle lined up for download on Etomi!Will be takin them straight outa my folder though so they cant go any further.

very clever! but why should you receive them?

I've got this file on soulseek: INCOMPLETE~new order - dracula's castle.mp3 and it is one more fake mp3...

Did anyone get any other track than Krafty?

Originally posted by Spotnick As far as I know, P2P is legal in Canada :pIt's not legal in the US though.

*I think P2P itself is legal everywhere. Anyway in the US a court said Morpheus and similar programs are legal (though they are, be warned, SPYWARE! The spy and especially slow down your system. While Win MX, Limewire and SoulSeek are some of the clean few). What is illegal everywhere is exchanging copyrighted material, including audio and video files. Erm, that's the very essence of P2P ;) In their world, legal P2P is used to exchange, say, pictures of yourself fishing or audio files of a traffic jam out of your window...

As stated on the thread I linked to, a Soulseek user called "IamDuck" appears to have the album. He also has an enormous queue...

I haven't found anyone else sharing it on slsk yet.

Originally posted by Old Blue a Soulseek user called "IamDuck" appears to have the album. He also has an enormous queue...

and is currently offline... also many fakes with very bad music floating around emule.

Ever get the feeling you've been had? Could this IamDuck be a Warner spoofer to lead people up the garden path? Let's face it, it was talked about on here by some people saying they were going to do just this - looks like it may have happened!

fact is: the album hasn't leaked yet. I think, we'd possibly be among the first to know if it has. :D

Originally posted by Old Blue He also has an enormous queue...

As interesting as it is to see that you know him intimately Bluey, is it possible that IamDuck = LameDuck?

:\pimp3:

I'm sorry. My very bad indeed. Obvioulsy my use of italics on the word "appears" didn't convey the intended level of disbelief on my part. Next time I'll use the requisite .

the album from IamDuck is a fake. i started dracula's castle and it is infact an elefant song.

Originally posted by Spotnick there ISN'T any album promo YET otherwise I would probably get it,

Well, at least the NME seems to have an album promo.

Originally posted by Patrick Jackson the album from IamDuck is a fake. i started dracula's castle and it is infact an elefant song.

No, that IS Dracula's Castle:(

Originally posted by Andrew > Originally posted by Patrick Jackson> the album from IamDuck is a fake. i started dracula's castle and it is infact an elefant song.

No, that IS Dracula's Castle:([/quote

what i heard was elefant "Sunlight Makes Me Paranoid," but maybe you have something different. can you provide more details?

Just spoken to a guy in Brazil who managed to download Jetstream and Dracula's Castle...and they are both fakes.

Its not leaked yet folks and in a way I hope it does not now so we all have to go down the record stores and buy it.

Hey, I´m the guy from Brazil you've talked to. And I had also downloaded a file : NEW ORDER - Waiting For The Sirens Call (2005 - MP3 128 Kbps).rar The mp3 files are not from New Order and I am 99% sure that it is the same version that "iamduck" has, because it´s the same track titled as "draculas castle" I have got before on Soulseek, although it was incomplete. Just to know, did anyone really get any REAL track other than Krafty til today?

Originally posted by Spotnick BTW, the best place on Earth to get this kind of things is... IRC!

hmmm, that's for experts...

While I was on SoulSeek, I asked a user whether or not he had the entire "Sirens" album, he told me, and I quote...

"I have the entire album, I think..."

His user name is:

MZ2080365

try to get ahold of this guy and see what else you can get out of him...

Still, i would be very surprised (and actually pleased) if the album doesnt leak before March 28th.Doves' album leaked last week 3 weeks before release.With all the promos sent out to journalists now or soon someone will put it up on a P2P.i didnt have a computer or much access to one back in 2001 so didnt hear any of Get Ready til they day i bought it when it hit the shelves and i kind of hope in way thats how ill hear the new album but if it leaks ill d/ld it (and still buy it mar 28th)

Looks like I came back to the forums just in time. Had no idea a new NO was so close to the horizon. When is the official U.S. release date?