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Who was lobbying for Chicago!!!

http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000818091

New Order Pledges North American Shows

New Order bassist Peter Hook says the pioneering rock act plans to play "as many shows as we can" in North America this year, in lieu of the limited appearances the band made here in support of its 2001 album, "Get Ready." As previously reported, New Order will on April 12 release its latest Warner Bros. set, "Waiting for the Sirens' Call."

"We felt very guilty for not coming to America last time," Hook tells Billboard.com. "We only did Moby's [Area: One tour], which was before the album came out. That left us feeling quite annoyed with ourselves, because we realized how important our support in America has been to us. We wanted to make sure this time that the first thing we do is come over here. We're doing Coachella and then we'll do some dates in Chicago and New York."

Hook says the band has already begun rehearsing material from the new album, as well as a host of extra tracks that did not make the final cut. He also reveals that New Order may revive a host of back catalog gems for the first time in ages, but that the time constraints of a typical festival set are making decisions tough.

"We've all been listening to the older stuff and realizing that we'd love to play songs like 'This Time of Night,' 'Leave Me Alone,' 'The Village,' 'Thieves Like Us' and 'Perfect Kiss,'" he says. "But god knows how we're going to do that. I honestly can't figure it out, because with festivals, you only get to play for an hour usually."

Although not all of the dates are confirmed, New Order is expected to appear at such summer U.K. festivals as Glastonbury, Oxegen and T in the Park.

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http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000818091

New Order Pledges North American Shows

New Order bassist Peter Hook says the pioneering rock act plans to play "as many shows as we can" in North America this year, in lieu of the limited appearances the band made here in support of its 2001 album, "Get Ready." As previously reported, New Order will on April 12 release its latest Warner Bros. set, "Waiting for the Sirens' Call."

"We felt very guilty for not coming to America last time," Hook tells Billboard.com. "We only did Moby's [Area: One tour], which was before the album came out. That left us feeling quite annoyed with ourselves, because we realized how important our support in America has been to us. We wanted to make sure this time that the first thing we do is come over here. We're doing Coachella and then we'll do some dates in Chicago and New York."

Hook says the band has already begun rehearsing material from the new album, as well as a host of extra tracks that did not make the final cut. He also reveals that New Order may revive a host of back catalog gems for the first time in ages, but that the time constraints of a typical festival set are making decisions tough.

"We've all been listening to the older stuff and realizing that we'd love to play songs like 'This Time of Night,' 'Leave Me Alone,' 'The Village,' 'Thieves Like Us' and 'Perfect Kiss,'" he says. "But god knows how we're going to do that. I honestly can't figure it out, because with festivals, you only get to play for an hour usually."

Although not all of the dates are confirmed, New Order is expected to appear at such summer U.K. festivals as Glastonbury, Oxegen and T in the Park.

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I have just read this in another thread here.Very interesting about the old songs.And i would dearly love NEW ORDER to play for our AMERICAN friends in more places than just the desert.Be great for you lot if this comes off.

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Oh, The Village. I would "shart" right there in my pants if that was included.:blush:

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Hook says the band has already begun rehearsing material from the new album, as well as a host of extra tracks that did not make the final cut. He also reveals that New Order may revive a host of back catalog gems for the first time in ages, but that the time constraints of a typical festival set are making decisions tough.

"We've all been listening to the older stuff and realizing that we'd love to play songs like 'This Time of Night,' 'Leave Me Alone,' 'The Village,' 'Thieves Like Us' and 'Perfect Kiss,'" he says. "But god knows how we're going to do that. I honestly can't figure it out, because with festivals, you only get to play for an hour usually."

:smoking:

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Quite fancy a wee jaunt to NY in May. I've always wanted to visit NY and with the incentive of seeing the Order playing it seems too good an opportunity to miss. Fooking hell how good would it be to hear Leave Me Alone, The Village, Thieves etc. Throw in Age of Consent and i would die a happy man.:thumb:

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"We felt very guilty for not coming to America last time," Hook tells Billboard.com. "We only did Moby's [Area: One tour], which was before the album came out. That left us feeling quite annoyed with ourselves, because we realized how important our support in America has been to us. We wanted to make sure this time that the first thing we do is come over here. We're doing Coachella and then we'll do some dates in Chicago and New York."

He realize's how important AMERICAN's support is to the band.

OUCH...my belly hurts from laughing so hard!!!!

I can't wait to see all you Geezers at Coachella (or maybe before!) so we can laugh and chat about the hilarity that ensue's on this message board.

You can still post with your feet firmly planted in your mouths, so get crackin!

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Needless to say I'll do both Chicago and NYC....

If they do more, I'll see...

Sorry everybody, I couldn't say a word before about it, now it's public knowledge so... ;)

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: "We felt very guilty for not coming to America last time," Hook tells Billboard.com. "We only did Moby's [Area: One tour], which was before the album came out. That left us feeling quite annoyed with ourselves, because we realized how important our support in America has been to us. We wanted to make sure this time that the first thing we do is come over here. We're doing Coachella and then we'll do some dates in Chicago and New York."

He realize's how important AMERICAN's support is to the band.

OUCH...my belly hurts from laughing so hard!!!!

I can't wait to see all you Geezers at Coachella (or maybe before!) so we can laugh and chat about the hilarity that ensue's on this message board.

You can still post with your feet firmly planted in your mouths, so get crackin!

Zing! Nicely put, Brian.

:clap:

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Tim will you be going to the NY shows? :p

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Oh, we have this crazy idea of doing finaly the Community concert if it's possible when we'll know the exact dates for Chicago and NYC...

Don't know if it'll work yet, but that is a possibility...

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yes....f-ing a

hoping for a show in tx? great places in austin for no, in my opinion:

UT Performing Arts Center-Bass Concert Hall just saw DuranDuran there (yea keep laughing) but they ripped it up better than you

Austin Music Hall La Zona Rosa (very small club would be amazing though-ask Primal Scream how they liked it....or don't maybe they didn't, but I did)

been hoping since 1989 I think it was (at Astroworld amusement park no less, for Technique) to see them again

any tx date....please

ok my foot's starting to taste bad

thx

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!!!

I hope this is 100% true. I will be at the NY gig for sure!

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If you can see, most US fans are either from California or TEXAS! The Californians got their Coachella, now it's time for Texas (that's New Order's favourite state - since they had played it here more than anywhere else in NA). :smoking:

And come on - Chicago and New York it's not a *US tour*, it's just two concerts in two cities. If they really want a NA tour, then besides Chicago & NYC, they would give a few more concerts - in Canada, Texas, for example. California has its Coachella already. :abovelol:

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Oooh. Yay! Great news. I can't wait to see them.

happy dance.

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Dear Texans: Your state FUCKING SUCKS. If you care about New Order, you will travel to see them. If not, quit complaining. You have 2 full months to find a way to Chicago or New York. Don't wait for them to play your poor, hot, depressing shit-hole of a state. You may be surprised at how civilized the rest of the country is after you leave Texas behind.

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Texas eh? Didn't New Order contributed to "Hope", the album for the Iraqi children?

Do they really want to visit Dubya's hometown? :evil4:

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Dear Texans: Your state FUCKING SUCKS. If you care about New Order, you will travel to see them. If not, quit complaining. You have 2 full months to find a way to Chicago or New York. Don't wait for them to play your poor, hot, depressing shit-hole of a state. You may be surprised at how civilized the rest of the country is after you leave Texas behind.

:clap: Well everything sucks but Austin (hippies) and Irving (the Dallas Cowboys). I know first-hand from my sister that San Antonio is a crappy place to live.

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Looks like the band's been reading some of these threads. :evil4:

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Dear Texans: Your state FUCKING SUCKS. If you care about New Order, you will travel to see them. If not, quit complaining. You have 2 full months to find a way to Chicago or New York. Don't wait for them to play your poor, hot, depressing shit-hole of a state. You may be surprised at how civilized the rest of the country is after you leave Texas behind.

OFFENCE

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Tristan wrote:

:clap: Well everything sucks but Austin (hippies) and Irving (the Dallas Cowboys). I know firsthand from sister that San Antonio is a crappy place to live.

OFFENCE

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A severe young man wrote:

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: Dear Texans: Your state FUCKING SUCKS. If you care about New Order, you will travel to see them. If not, quit complaining. You have 2 full months to find a way to Chicago or New York. Don't wait for them to play your poor, hot, depressing shit-hole of a state. You may be surprised at how civilized the rest of the country is after you leave Texas behind.

OFFENCE

You mean like the confederate flag?

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bLuE oRdEr wrote:

You mean like the confederate flag?

Watch Sumner's guitar on Finsbury :D

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A severe young man wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

You mean like the confederate flag?

Watch Sumner's guitar on Finsbury :D

It's the national flag of slave-owning oligarchs. Would you put up a swastika if Sumner had one on his gutar?

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A severe young man wrote:

Tristan wrote:

:clap: Well everything sucks but Austin (hippies) and Irving (the Dallas Cowboys). I know firsthand from sister that San Antonio is a crappy place to live.

OFFENCE

Sorry, but when I talk to my sister she always tells me the things she hates about San Antonio (mostly the school district system and the layout of the city), but she has had some cool experiences like going to a friend's ranch and seeing zebras. If it was up to her, she'd come back to CA or go to France ASAP.

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Originally posted by A severe young man > > bLuE oRdEr wrote:> > You mean like the confederate flag?Watch Sumner's guitar on Finsbury :D

the differences between irony and ignorance would mean nothing to you.

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bLuE oRdEr wrote:

A severe young man wrote:

bLuE oRdEr wrote:

You mean like the confederate flag?

Watch Sumner's guitar on Finsbury :D

It's the national flag of slave-owning oligarchs. Would you put up a swastika if Sumner had one on his gutar?

I would :p

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bLuE oRdEr wrote:

It's the national flag of slave-owning oligarchs. Would you put up a swastika if Sumner had one on his gutar?

I would :nod:

But leave politics alone! It's all about New Order's US tour. And we welcome New Order in our great state.

Love | Peace :clap:

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the real irony here is they say the regret not playing more dates in the States with the exception of Area:One but they're playing FEWER dates this time!!! Somehow they try to do us right but they still fart in our general direction. Classic!

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote:

Originally posted by A severe young man > > bLuE oRdEr wrote:> > You mean like the confederate flag?Watch Sumner's guitar on Finsbury :D

the differences between irony and ignorance would mean nothing to you.

They ain't words in the Texan dictionary. Maybe you should look on the internets for a good Texan dictionary like: http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/texan.htm

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: the real irony here is they say the regret not playing more dates in the States with the exception of Area:One but they're playing FEWER dates this time!!! Somehow they try to do us right but they still fart in our general direction. Classic!

You never know, they could play multiple dates at NY and Chicago.

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did you hear about the bridge they're building from California to Hawaii?

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: did you hear about the bridge they're building from California to Hawaii?

No but I did hear that pigs could fly. Flying bacon and chops sounds good to me.

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hey tristan, let's me and you, right, like, move to texas then beg for New order to play there. Think of all the fun we could have in Texas. I mean there's Austin with it's Rock clubs and riverfront shops and then there's...um....hmm...there's the....no, that's not in Texas...hmm...well Dallas has an ice skating rink, that could be fun. Houston has a Whole Foods and a Half Price Books! Think of the fun! We could buy really expensive organic veggies then drive past 1,000,000 Bush supportors to our cheap, but depressing house and regret our choice to live in Texas. Sound like a plan? Maybe we could invite Mr. McDermott to come over to tell us how awesome Dick Cheney is and why GWB is the single greatest living American...no, Human ever to breath our good air. I'm there dude!

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Since when has Oxegen been a "UK Festival" ?

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: hey tristan, let's me and you, right, like, move to texas then beg for New order to play there. Think of all the fun we could have in Texas. I mean there's Austin with it's Rock clubs and riverfront shops and then there's...um....hmm...there's the....no, that's not in Texas...hmm...well Dallas has an ice skating rink, that could be fun. Houston has a Whole Foods and a Half Price Books! Think of the fun! We could buy really expensive organic veggies then drive past 1,000,000 Bush supportors to our cheap, but depressing house and regret our choice to live in Texas. Sound like a plan? Maybe we could invite Mr. McDermott to come over to tell us how awesome Dick Cheney is and why GWB is the single greatest living American...no, Human ever to breath our good air. I'm there dude!

Fuck you I'm moving to Odessa for the high school football. Oh and FYI, Condoleeza Rice is the greatest living American. ;)

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MYOB wrote: Since when has Oxegen been a "UK Festival" ?

Can't Irish people spell oxygen?

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damn, i forgot about the thrilling High School Football games. I'm packing my shit right now.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: damn, i forgot about the thrilling High School Football games. I'm packing my shit right now.

Wait I'm now moving to Texas to pray to Jesus for Pantera to reform.

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another good thing about Texas, Christian Radio. Loads of Christian Radio stations...a good mix between Christian and Country music. The Lord does look down on Texas!

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Doesn't everybody do that?

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When I think of Texan music I try to think of Tejano, like Selena. Too bad Texas hasn't produced anything decent musically for so long.

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bLuE oRdEr wrote: Doesn't everybody do that?

Mexico looks up and sideways :p

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it was a bad phrase. i meant, the Lord looks after texas, not looks down on it in the same way the rest of the free world does. ever notice the only people who like texas are texans? weird. I had the misfortune to live less than an hours drive from the texas border and can testify that texas is the ugliest state in the union. the people are fat, with oily skin, the landscape is BORING and the overwhelming majority have social and politcal views that are closer to the middle ages than the 21st century. With the exception of Jeff, of course.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: it was a bad phrase. i meant, the Lord looks after texas, not looks down on it in the same way the rest of the free world does. ever notice the only people who like texas are texans? weird. I had the misfortune to live less than an hours drive from the texas border and can testify that texas is the ugliest state in the union. the people are fat, with oily skin, the landscape is BORING and the overwhelming majority have social and politcal views that are closer to the middle ages than the 21st century. With the exception of Jeff, of course.

That's funny, anywhere you live that's an hour's drive to Texas is bound to be fucked up too (except Las Cruces and New Orleans). Maybe Texas is a massive vortex summoned by Satan himself.

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newOrleans is slighly more than an hours drive from Texas.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: newOrleans is slighly more than an hours drive from Texas.

If you're driving a Ford Ranger and are slowed by all the fookin Texans who cannot drive more than 60 mph. :p

Yeah I guess it's more than an hour away.

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Originally posted by Tristan > > MYOB wrote:> Since when has Oxegen been a "UK Festival" ?Can't Irish people spell oxygen?

This misspelling is on purpose. Its sponsored by the O2 cellphone network. When Guinness sponsored it, it was called Witnness - again, note the misspelling.

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MYOB wrote:

Originally posted by Tristan > > MYOB wrote:> Since when has Oxegen been a "UK Festival" ?Can't Irish people spell oxygen?

This misspelling is on purpose. Its sponsored by the O2 cellphone network. When Guinness sponsored it, it was called Witnness - again, note the misspelling.

Only messing with you; I had only hoped it was on purpose.

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it takes 45 minutes to travel from New Orleans to Lafayette, surely it's more than 15 minutes from Lafayette to the texas border.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: it takes 45 minutes to travel from New Orleans to Lafayette, surely it's more than 15 minutes from Lafayette to the texas border.

Okay, okay you smartass librul. Jay-sus always have to be so technical. Anyways it just reinforces my point of Texas being a massive vortex of doom!

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OK, Operation Thread Hijack now complete.

Did you hear that New Order are playing Chicago and New York?

Seriously, though, i'm real excited to hear about them going through the back catalogue. We were basically told the Coachella set is going to be an hour of standard Festival shit. This should be the set at Coachella:

Crystal Regret Temptation BLT Touched Atmosphere LWTUA Blue Monday True Faith Krafty Transmission

The other shows may be more interesting. I wish i hadn't decided to do Coachella. I'd prefer to fly to Chicago and New York. Probably could have done both shows for the cost of a weekend in Palm Spings. Oh well, live and learn.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: http://www.sitesatlas.com/Maps/Maps/LA1.htm

tell me how you get from New Orleans to Texas in an hour. It's impossible in a car.

Well if I had a racecar maybe I could do it :p Seeing as the South loves NASCAR so much I bet I could find a gas guzzler to steal and make my way to New Orleans.

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He could do it.

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These guys could do it too.

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they could do it!

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could he do it?

goddamn that's a handsome man! so well dressed, too.

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a long way to go, but a short time to get there.

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote:

they could do it!

These Texans tagged along.

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their motivation?

That's right! Conway Twitty, LIVE at the gorgeous and futuristic Astrodome!

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I think they were actually looking for some country titty.

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NEW YORK!??? Wonderful!!!

I hope they play at the Ukrainian National Home again.;)

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Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: OK, Operation Thread Hijack now complete. Did you hear that New Order are playing Chicago and New York? Seriously, though, i'm real excited to hear about them going through the back catalogue. We were basically told the Coachella set is going to be an hour of standard Festival shit. This should be the set at Coachella: Crystal Regret Temptation BLT Touched Atmosphere LWTUA Blue Monday True Faith Krafty Transmission The other shows may be more interesting. I wish i hadn't decided to do Coachella. I'd prefer to fly to Chicago and New York. Probably could have done both shows for the cost of a weekend in Palm Spings. Oh well, live and learn.

Stop it MIKE you will be telling us next you WANT to see them play BLUE MONDAY!

Sorry i could have sworn it was  YOU.

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Is this TRUE?

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Wish they would play in this Country, The fat lazy auto cue fuckers !

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No Blue Monday, I will just have to shout " Stop looking at yer Auto Cue and get a proper haircut, oh and where's the Hohner Melodica ( on my shelf :evil4: )?

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Good news!

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This would be rather splendid indeed, luckily I am on good terms with the bank manager. The missus has given me a green light for any series of US dates as well, so fingers crossed!

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I don't believe the Billboard story.

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Originally posted by Tristan Tim will you be going to the NY shows? :p

I'll be going to them all if I can - it's been an ambition for 20 years to a) be able to see New Order in the States; b) do a US road trip. Maybe I will get my chance!

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Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!

Henry J Kaiser Arena.

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oldmonkey wrote: This would be rather splendid indeed, luckily I am on good terms with the bank manager. The missus has given me a green light for any series of US dates as well, so fingers crossed!

But didnt you say it would never happen;)

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No I quoted what the info coming from New Order HQ was. There's still something about this Billboard report that doesn't ring quite right, almost as though Hooky is feeding them all the things that crop up on here! Wouldn't mind betting that the journo has taken it all from here and put two and two together with the news they are adding some US shows. Coachella warm-up is now Oakland on 29th April.

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How many of our US brethren will now be making excuses they can't make Chicago or New York either?! :evil4:

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Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

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as a gambling man I was thinking of running a book on more brit fans at US shows versus US fans at European shows but after reading over the threads on here realised it was a bit of a non starter. Love the states hope to get over again if they play if only to help outnumber the locals!

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Biznotic Love Digitoid wrote:

a long way to go, but a short time to get there.

I'd bet money on these people to make it to N'Ahlins in time.

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Al Jarvis wrote: How many of our US brethren will now be making excuses they can't make Chicago or New York either?! :evil4:

You talking about ME?!?!?! :D

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Andy wrote: I don't believe the Billboard story.

Better believe it... !

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Rocket Mick wrote: Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!

Henry J Kaiser Arena.

Only problem is... the Henry J Kaiser Arena is on Oakland, not San Francisco :lol:

Well, ok, you should have to cross the world-famous Golden Gate across the bay from San Francisco, but still ;)

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Originally posted by Spotnick > > Rocket Mick wrote:> Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!> > Henry J Kaiser Arena.> Only problem is... the Henry J Kaiser Arena is on Oakland, not San Francisco :lol:Well, ok, you should have to cross the world-famous Golden Gate across the bay from San Francisco, but still ;)

Wrong bridge, Nic.

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A BRIDGE TOO FAR.

I was only repeating what was on the LINK.

Strange but THE CHEMICALS websit has NO MENTION of this several hours LATER!

Regards

Rocket Mick

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"How many of our US brethren will now be making excuses they can't make Chicago or New York either?!"

I won't be able to go to the Chicago show because traffic will be horrible so I think i'll stay @  home :)

Wenorder and Bentley and Tristan and Jesse, and Jeff, get yer asses here for that show so we can watch a live DVD while the rest get stuck in traffic :)

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Patrick wrote:

Originally posted by Spotnick > > Rocket Mick wrote:> Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!> > Henry J Kaiser Arena.> Only problem is... the Henry J Kaiser Arena is on Oakland, not San Francisco :lol:Well, ok, you should have to cross the world-famous Golden Gate across the bay from San Francisco, but still ;)

Wrong bridge, Nic.

Really? I thought that was the one from SF to Oakland... :scratch:

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kamar wrote:

"How many of our US brethren will now be making excuses they can't make Chicago or New York either?!"

I won't be able to go to the Chicago show because traffic will be horrible so I think i'll stay @  home :)

Wenorder and Bentley and Tristan and Jesse, and Jeff, get yer asses here for that show so we can watch a live DVD while the rest get stuck in traffic :)

I believe WenOrder will do Chicago, as far as I know, he's even considering riding back to NYC with me... :evil4:

Well, 12h of driving from Montréal to Chicago, I've done 9 one time.. luckily, there is a mandatory stop at Niagara Falls in the middle of the road, so it won't be too mad.

Will be a first time I go further than Toronto in the west !

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Originally posted by Spotnick > > Patrick wrote:> > > > Originally posted by Spotnick> > > > > > > > > > Rocket Mick wrote:> > > Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!> > > > > > Henry J Kaiser Arena.> > > > > > > > > > > Only problem is... the Henry J Kaiser Arena is on Oakland, not San Francisco :lol:> > > > Well, ok, you should have to cross the world-famous Golden Gate across the bay from San Francisco, but still ;)>

Wrong bridge, Nic.

Really? I thought that was the one from SF to Oakland... :scratch:

No, the Golden Gate goes from San Francisco north to Marin County; I believe the bridge from SF east to Oakland is called the Bay Bridge.

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There's a good film about the bridge running over the River Kwai.

:hat:

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"We've all been listening to the older stuff and realizing that we'd love to play songs like 'This Time of Night,' 'Leave Me Alone,' 'The Village,' 'Thieves Like Us' and 'Perfect Kiss,'" he says. "But god knows how we're going to do that. I honestly can't figure it out, because with festivals, you only get to play for an hour usually."

Great news to wake up to this morning.

1002

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Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. The simple fact that people have for years and years have connected it to the slave owners should be enough of a reason for people to ditch the flag. Millions of people are offended by it, so why not stop being arrogant and stop trying to connect to the Confederacy.

I personally do not think the flag should be seen as a representation of the institution of slavery, but since millions do and always will view it in that manner I would never pin up a Confederate flag on any of my possessions. I'm not offended by the flag myself because I think it represents a kickass rogue state attempting to be free and pursue its own economic goals. And considering the history of racism in the West (Chinese workers) and many Rustbelt cities I would be offended by the American flag just as much as I would be by the Confederate flag. But people are offended by it so stash it away!

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Huntsman wrote: There's a good film about the bridge running over the River Kwai.

:hat:

River Kwai, is that some place in the Ozarks? :p

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i'll goto an NYC date if i lands on a weekend! or any day other than thursday hahahaha. cant miss my club gig.

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Huntsman wrote: There's a good film about the bridge running over the River Kwai.

Just today morning got splendid digital pictures from my friend exploring the Thai inland.

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kamar wrote:

"How many of our US brethren will now be making excuses they can't make Chicago or New York either?!"

I won't be able to go to the Chicago show because traffic will be horrible so I think i'll stay @  home :)

Wenorder and Bentley and Tristan and Jesse, and Jeff, get yer asses here for that show so we can watch a live DVD while the rest get stuck in traffic :)

Sorry Kamar, but I'll be at the NYC show.

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Tristan wrote:

Biznotic Love Digitoid wrote:

a long way to go, but a short time to get there.

I'd bet money on these people to make it to N'Ahlins in time.

What about these people?

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Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Overview of the Confederacy

    Its ideology far more conservative than revolutionary, the nation of seceded Southern states faced a paradox in maintaining a centralized government comprised of entities whose very motivation for departing the Union was their objection to federal authority. On February 4, 1861, representatives from the seven states Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Texas-that had already seceded from the United States met in Montgomery, Alabama, to form a new republic. On February 8, the convention announced the establishment of the Confederate States of America and declared itself the provisional Congress. 
   The following day, Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens were unanimously chosen provisional president and vice president, two men moderate enough, it was hoped, to convince the eight other reluctant slave states to join the Confederacy. A committee spent the next five weeks composing a national constitution, which was approved on March I 1. The document closely followed the U.S. Constitution-including its Bill of Rights-**with a few notable differences**. Language promoting "the general welfare" was omitted, **while the right to own slaves was explicitly guaranteed** although foreign slave trade was forbidden). 

Jefferson Davis (1808-1889) was born, like Abraham Lincoln, in Kentucky. His family seems to have been of modest circumstances, and soon moved to the newly opened southern frontier in Mississippi. Possessing great intelligence and imagination, Davis was educated at a number of institutions, including Transylvania University before entering West Point, from which he was graduated. Robert E. Lee was a fellow cadet.

Davis then served in the army at a number of posts in Wisconsin and Illinois, and he (like Lincoln) served in the Black Hawk War in 1832. He resigned from the army in 1835, married the daughter of Colonel Zachary Taylor, who was the commandant of Davi s's post at the time, and returned to Mississippi as a planter. Davis's marriage was cut short by his wife's sudden death three months later of malaria. For ten years, Davis tended to his plantation, "Brierfield," read extensively, and made only infrequent excursions outside his community.

In 1845, Davis strenthened his ties to the Mississippi planter class by marrying a woman from a socially prominent family. At the same time, his career became more public when he was elected to Congress as a Democrat. With the outbreak of the Mexican War, however, Davis resigned his seat in order to command a Mississippi regiment. His bravery at the battles of Monterrey and Buena Vista won him acclaim.

Davis was then elected to the United States Senate where he became a leading spokesman for southern rights. Although willing to accept the extension of the Missouri Compromise line to the Pacific, Davis argued the right of slavery to go into the territories, and he adamantly opposed the admission of California as a free state. Davis's stand proved too extreme for Mississippi in the aftermath of the Compromise of 1850. In 1851, in a complicated political maneuver, Davis stepped down as senator to run against a pro-compromise "Union" candidate for governor, and lost.

Davis's return to the life of a planter proved only temporary. In 1853 he became secretary of war in the cabinet of President Franklin Pierce, where he demonstrated his southern expansionist leanings. With the close of the Pierce administration, he returned to the Senate and became a leader of the southern Democratic defense of slavery and its constitutional right to protection in the territories. More controversially, he advocated the revival of the slave trade.

Alexander Stephens was born in Crawfordville, Georgia, on 11th February, 1812. After graduating from the University of Georgia he taught in a local school. He studied law and was admitted to the bar in 1834.

Stephens joined the Whig Party and in 1836 he was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives. He served for five years before being elected to the 28th Congress and took his seat in October, 1843. He later joined the Democratic Party and was chairman of the Committee on Territories (1848-50). Stephens was a strong opponent of the Mexican War and was highly critical of President James Polk during this conflict.

An advocate of slavery, Stephens campaigned for the Kansas-Nebraska Act. He opposed the election of Abraham Lincoln but argued against immediate secession after the Republican Party victory. Lincoln wrote a letter to Stephens pointing out: "You think slavery is right and ought to be extended; while we think it is wrong and ought to be restricted. That I suppose is the rub. It certainly is the only substantial difference between us."

The Confederate Cabinet:

“This conflict, at least, is irrepressible - it is easily understood –we demand the equal right with the North to go into the common Territories with all of our property, slaves included, and to be there protected in its peaceable enjoyment by the Federal Government, until such Territories may come into the Union as equal States-then we admit them with or without slavery, as the people themselves may decide for themselves.”Robert Toombs Secretary of State, CSA

“A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the states north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common government, because he has declared that that "government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. This sectional combination for the subversion of the constitution, has been aided in some of the states by elevating to citizenship, persons, who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its peace and safety. On the 4th of March next this party will take possession of the government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory; that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease through-out the United States. The guaranties of the constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the states will be lost. The slaveholding states will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the federal government will have become their enemy. —C. G. Toombs, Secretary of the Treasury, CSA

Judah P. Benjamin, Attorney General, Secretary of War, and Secretary of State, CSA: Owned 140 slaves on his sugar plantation.

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Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Overview of the Confederacy

    Its ideology far more conservative than revolutionary, the nation of seceded Southern states faced a paradox in maintaining a centralized government comprised of entities whose very motivation for departing the Union was their objection to federal authority. On February 4, 1861, representatives from the seven states Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Texas-that had already seceded from the United States met in Montgomery, Alabama, to form a new republic. On February 8, the convention announced the establishment of the Confederate States of America and declared itself the provisional Congress. 
   The following day, Jefferson Davis and Alexander Stephens were unanimously chosen provisional president and vice president, two men moderate enough, it was hoped, to convince the eight other reluctant slave states to join the Confederacy. A committee spent the next five weeks composing a national constitution, which was approved on March I 1. The document closely followed the U.S. Constitution-including its Bill of Rights-**with a few notable differences**. Language promoting "the general welfare" was omitted, **while the right to own slaves was explicitly guaranteed** although foreign slave trade was forbidden). 

Jefferson Davis (1808-1889) was born, like Abraham Lincoln, in Kentucky. His family seems to have been of modest circumstances, and soon moved to the newly opened southern frontier in Mississippi. Possessing great intelligence and imagination, Davis was educated at a number of institutions, including Transylvania University before entering West Point, from which he was graduated. Robert E. Lee was a fellow cadet.

Davis then served in the army at a number of posts in Wisconsin and Illinois, and he (like Lincoln) served in the Black Hawk War in 1832. He resigned from the army in 1835, married the daughter of Colonel Zachary Taylor, who was the commandant of Davi s's post at the time, and returned to Mississippi as a planter. Davis's marriage was cut short by his wife's sudden death three months later of malaria. For ten years, Davis tended to his plantation, "Brierfield," read extensively, and made only infrequent excursions outside his community.

In 1845, Davis strenthened his ties to the Mississippi planter class by marrying a woman from a socially prominent family. At the same time, his career became more public when he was elected to Congress as a Democrat. With the outbreak of the Mexican War, however, Davis resigned his seat in order to command a Mississippi regiment. His bravery at the battles of Monterrey and Buena Vista won him acclaim.

Davis was then elected to the United States Senate where he became a leading spokesman for southern rights. Although willing to accept the extension of the Missouri Compromise line to the Pacific, Davis argued the right of slavery to go into the territories, and he adamantly opposed the admission of California as a free state. Davis's stand proved too extreme for Mississippi in the aftermath of the Compromise of 1850. In 1851, in a complicated political maneuver, Davis stepped down as senator to run against a pro-compromise "Union" candidate for governor, and lost.

Davis's return to the life of a planter proved only temporary. In 1853 he became secretary of war in the cabinet of President Franklin Pierce, where he demonstrated his southern expansionist leanings. With the close of the Pierce administration, he returned to the Senate and became a leader of the southern Democratic defense of slavery and its constitutional right to protection in the territories. More controversially, he advocated the revival of the slave trade.

Alexander Stephens was born in Crawfordville, Georgia, on 11th February, 1812. After graduating from the University of Georgia he taught in a local school. He studied law and was admitted to the bar in 1834.

Stephens joined the Whig Party and in 1836 he was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives. He served for five years before being elected to the 28th Congress and took his seat in October, 1843. He later joined the Democratic Party and was chairman of the Committee on Territories (1848-50). Stephens was a strong opponent of the Mexican War and was highly critical of President James Polk during this conflict.

An advocate of slavery, Stephens campaigned for the Kansas-Nebraska Act. He opposed the election of Abraham Lincoln but argued against immediate secession after the Republican Party victory. Lincoln wrote a letter to Stephens pointing out: "You think slavery is right and ought to be extended; while we think it is wrong and ought to be restricted. That I suppose is the rub. It certainly is the only substantial difference between us."

The Confederate Cabinet:

“This conflict, at least, is irrepressible - it is easily understood –we demand the equal right with the North to go into the common Territories with all of our property, slaves included, and to be there protected in its peaceable enjoyment by the Federal Government, until such Territories may come into the Union as equal States-then we admit them with or without slavery, as the people themselves may decide for themselves.”Robert Toombs Secretary of State, CSA

“A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the states north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common government, because he has declared that that "government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. This sectional combination for the subversion of the constitution, has been aided in some of the states by elevating to citizenship, persons, who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its peace and safety. On the 4th of March next this party will take possession of the government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory; that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease through-out the United States. The guaranties of the constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the states will be lost. The slaveholding states will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the federal government will have become their enemy. —C. G. Toombs, Secretary of the Treasury, CSA

Judah P. Benjamin, Attorney General, Secretary of War, and Secretary of State, CSA: Owned 140 slaves on his sugar plantation.

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Patrick wrote:

Originally posted by Spotnick > > Patrick wrote:> > > > Originally posted by Spotnick> > > > > > > > > > Rocket Mick wrote:> > > Latest is with THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS in SAN FRANCISCO 29th APRIL!> > > > > > Henry J Kaiser Arena.> > > > > > > > > > > Only problem is... the Henry J Kaiser Arena is on Oakland, not San Francisco :lol:> > > > Well, ok, you should have to cross the world-famous Golden Gate across the bay from San Francisco, but still ;)>

Wrong bridge, Nic.

Really? I thought that was the one from SF to Oakland... :scratch:

No, the Golden Gate goes from San Francisco north to Marin County; I believe the bridge from SF east to Oakland is called the Bay Bridge.

That's right. :nod: The Golden Gate connects San Francisco and Marin County, while the Bay Bridge connects San Francisco and Oakland.

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Tristan wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. ... Millions of people are offended by it... ... I'm not offended by the flag myself...

Okay then what's the point? Why are you performing on behalf of someone else's possible reactions? If that's alright with you, then let it go :) Otherwise you just offend me personally with no own reasons of yours; plus you sound very Communist.

Secondly, I'm not an advocate of the Confederate Flag, I really don't care about its blah-blah symbolism. I picked it up simply because it's very flamboyant and because it's a symbol of rockabilly that I'm fond of.

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Take this tangent elsewhere. This is a thread about New Order playing in the States, you cunts.

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New Order, New York?!

A Dream Attack come true :music:

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A severe young man wrote:

Tristan wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. ... Millions of people are offended by it... ... I'm not offended by the flag myself...

Okay then what's the point? Why are you performing on behalf of someone else's possible reactions? If that's alright with you, then let it go :) Otherwise you just offend me personally with no own reasons of yours; plus you sound very Communist.

Secondly, I'm not an advocate of the Confederate Flag, I really don't care about its blah-blah symbolism. I picked it up simply because it's very flamboyant and because it's a symbol of rockabilly that I'm fond of.

Yes very flamboyant. Texas is sure full of steers and queers. :evil4:

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A severe young man wrote:

Tristan wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. ... Millions of people are offended by it... ... I'm not offended by the flag myself...

Okay then what's the point? Why are you performing on behalf of someone else's possible reactions? If that's alright with you, then let it go :) Otherwise you just offend me personally with no own reasons of yours; plus you sound very Communist.

Secondly, I'm not an advocate of the Confederate Flag, I really don't care about its blah-blah symbolism. I picked it up simply because it's very flamboyant and because it's a symbol of rockabilly that I'm fond of.

Well, I'm not about to start wearing a swastika, even though it began as a Buddhist symbol before being (literally) inverted by the Nazis.

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

A severe young man wrote:

Tristan wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. ... Millions of people are offended by it... ... I'm not offended by the flag myself...

Okay then what's the point? Why are you performing on behalf of someone else's possible reactions? If that's alright with you, then let it go :) Otherwise you just offend me personally with no own reasons of yours; plus you sound very Communist.

Secondly, I'm not an advocate of the Confederate Flag, I really don't care about its blah-blah symbolism. I picked it up simply because it's very flamboyant and because it's a symbol of rockabilly that I'm fond of.

Well, I'm not about to start wearing a swastika, even though it began as a Buddhist symbol before being (literally) inverted by the Nazis.

Hey the Buddhist symbol could be seen on Japanese Pokemon cards. Stupid Hiutler sympathizers!

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Tristan wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

A severe young man wrote:

Tristan wrote:

Brian Barker wrote: Sorry to be off topic, but the Confederate Flag has NOTHING to do with slave owners. Brian...

Let's say it technically does not. ... Millions of people are offended by it... ... I'm not offended by the flag myself...

Okay then what's the point? Why are you performing on behalf of someone else's possible reactions? If that's alright with you, then let it go :) Otherwise you just offend me personally with no own reasons of yours; plus you sound very Communist.

Secondly, I'm not an advocate of the Confederate Flag, I really don't care about its blah-blah symbolism. I picked it up simply because it's very flamboyant and because it's a symbol of rockabilly that I'm fond of.

Well, I'm not about to start wearing a swastika, even though it began as a Buddhist symbol before being (literally) inverted by the Nazis.

Hey the Buddhist symbol could be seen on Japanese Pokemon cards. Stupid Hiutler sympathizers!

They're still burned about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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RAAAWWRR

:shrug: I just felt that this belonged here.

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And I counter with MOTHRA!!!

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i love the usa pity i cant go there

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why not do some gigs in London isnt that were your fan base is idiots

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all you peps must REALLY like the taste of your own feet...or you have no taste.

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anthony bice wrote: all you peps must REALLY like the taste of your own feet...or you have no taste.

¿Que? I don't speak Texican. I don't see what we've put our feet in our mouth for.

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Perhaps some of you will be happy to hear this. A clubowner based in Baton Rouge who also works with an agency who books bands in New Orleans is actively seeking to book New Order at the TwiRoPa club in N'awlins! He helped get Interpol there last week and Erasure is playing there in May of this year. I promise to update any info I may have in regards to the booking! You can check out the venue online if you like....http://www.twiropa.com/

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Shad Starns wrote: Perhaps some of you will be happy to hear this. A clubowner based in Baton Rouge who also works with an agency who books bands in New Orleans is actively seeking to book New Order at the TwiRoPa club in N'awlins! He helped get Interpol there last week and Erasure is playing there in May of this year. I promise to update any info I may have in regards to the booking! You can check out the venue online if you like....http://www.twiropa.com/

Hey that sounds like a great idea for all the Southern fans; Texans'll surely be pleased if NO play at that club.

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Yeah, but how they gonna get to Nawlins in an hour?

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bLuE oRdEr wrote: Yeah, but how they gonna get to Nawlins in an hour?

Knight Rider!

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Yay for more US dates...hmm, Chicago & New York...how about both?... :)

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bLuE oRdEr wrote: Yeah, but how they gonna get to Nawlins in an hour?

by a J-E-T????

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Haha... New Order in NYC sounds great to me... never got to see them as I am tad younger... let's just hope Bernie doesn't startscreaming mid song and lays off so much whistling..

I hope it is a relatively small club, like Hammerstein Ballroom, great sound there... I hope it isn't at the Roseland (I don't like that place..) other smaller places, IRVING plaza would rock if they did a couple days in a row there, I can only dream.

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I don't mind taking a road (or even plane) trip to make it to one of their shows in the US, I just hope they announce all the US shows soon so I can pick the best one...I don't imagine they will make it to Texas this go round, haven't been here for a long time...otherwise I am leaning towards the chemical brothers show in oakland, since I can party in san francisco while there ;)

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Oh please please please come to Ohio. Preferably Columbus. We actually have venues now!!

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Basil Angelo wrote: I don't mind taking a road (or even plane) trip to make it to one of their shows in the US, I just hope they announce all the US shows soon so I can pick the best one...I don't imagine they will make it to Texas this go round, haven't been here for a long time...otherwise I am leaning towards the chemical brothers show in oakland, since I can party in san francisco while there ;)

They haven't exactly been anywhere in the States for a long time...California got two gigs for Area One...Seattle (sort of) for one...and now Coachella...so I don't see how you can rule Texas out so quickly...remember...the last two "tours" they did came to Texas...Dallas and Houston in 89...and they kicked off the Republic gigs in Dallas...so it could be...but I ain't holding my breath either!!!

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MANUMATIC

Holy shit! Someone else on here is from Ohio, let alone Columbus!

New Order oughta play the Promowest Pavilion...

Seriously, itd be nice if they did a 10 or 11 date tour of the states. If they played 3-4,000 seat venues, New order would do very well indeed. Here in Columbus theyve got a really big fan base.

ZAS

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Of course there's no chance of them hitting Canada or anywhere in the States near Winnipeg, so I'm f*cked as usual.

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hEY,WHY NOT PHOENIX,WE HAVE SOME GREAT INDOOR VENUES,SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IN THE HEAT!!!

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