Album Rankings: A New Order

Spotnick wrote:

Apparently, I don't read each and every thread on NOOL...

Well that's just pure laziness, Nick.

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Low-Life PC&L Technique Brotherhood Movement WFTSC Get Ready Republic

1. Power, Corruption, and Lies
2. Technique
3. Waiting For the Siren's Call
4. Brotherhood
5. Movement
6. Republic
7. Low-Life
8. Get Ready

This is not to suggest I do not think some of the bottom albums aren't good. I do own all 8 of them including Substance, Retro, and a few radio sessions and live compilations. New Order is the only group (that has made at least 4 albums) where I have all of their albums. I wouldn't buy an album if I did not think it was great, regardless of who recorded it.

1. Low-Life
2. PC&L
3. WFTSC
4. Brotherhood
5. Get Ready
6. Republic
7. Technique
8. Movement

... As Larry!

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hmmm, obviously I did this twice, and WFTSC climbed 3 places whilst Movement lost two. And that despite I still think WFTSC is really mediocre album

Got to think about that...

Ruined in a day wrote:

1. Low Life

2. Get Ready

3. PC&L

4. Technique

5. Movement

6. Brotherhood

7. Republic

8. WFTSC

9. Low Life

10. Get Ready

11. PC&L

12. Technique

13. WFTSC

14. Brotherhood

15. Movement

16. Republic

And is Brotherhood really worse than WFTSC ??? really strange...

1. PCL
2. Movement
3. WFTSC
4. Low-Life
5. Republic
6. Get Ready
7. Brotherhood
8. Technique

Ally3000 wrote:

1. Technique
2. Low-life
3. Waiting For The Siren's Call
4. Republic
5. Power, Corruption & Lies
6. Brotherhood
7. Get Ready
8. Movement

Technique and Low-life regularly swap for the #1 spot, depends on my mood. They're both untouchable.

Republic used to be in 3rd place but as of this year WFTSC has beaten it into 4th, a complete return to form. I still like Republic alot as it was the first NO album I picked up and the first five tracks are brilliant pop songs. It picks up towards the end with Special and Avalanche, two beautifully produced numbers which everyone thought were New Order's swansongs until '98. Aside from that for me Get Ready and Movement suck, with barely a handful of truly memorable tracks on either They can be forgiven for Movement because of Ian, but they could've produced so much better than the damp FM guitar rock of GR.

Thank god we got WFTSC to make up for it

Ally.

how many votes you having?

If you took the firsttrack from each of their albums you would have a foooooookin great listing.

Can I choose that?

Dave Algeo wrote: If you took the firsttrack from each of their albums you would have a foooooookin great listing.

Can I choose that?

After Stevie G's pinger today you can choose whatever you like Dave!

Rankings by tiers:

**** albums

1. Technique
2. P.C.L
3. Low Life

Technique is their only flawless album. There are some songs I dont think are flawless, but the whole of it is perfection. PCL gets a ranking ahead of Low-Life Strictly on the strength of the classic songs housed on it (Age of Consent, Your Silent Face, and Leave Me Alone, all superior to the very best of Low Life).

*** albums 4. Brotherhood 5. WFTSC

Brotherhood is a borderline 2.5 star album, with muddy production and inconsistent song, WFTSC has a few near classic moments, lots of solid stuff and little in the way of garbage.

** albums 6. Get Ready 7. Republic 8. Movement

Get Ready has the consistency that Republic lacked, but features not a single classic tune, Republic has two classic tunes, but a ton of filler, Movment just stunk, as far as I'm concerned, some interesting moments but no songs i ever have a hankering to listen to unless im depressed or want to listen to strange early eighties synths.

This is really tough right now..

1. Technique --
2. Republic
3. PC&L
4. Waiting For The Sirens' Call --
5. Low-Life
6. Brotherhood
7. Get Ready
8. Movement

Technique is definitely my favorite. Republic was my initial favorite when I became a fan, but PC&L or WFTSC could bump it down to 4 at any time. The bottom 4 are definitely in that order.

Side Projects (where they would rank with NO albums)

1. Music For Pleasure (below Technique)
2. Raise the Pressure (below Low-Life)
3. Electronic (below Low-Life)
4. Monaco (below Brotherhood)
5. Twisted Tenderness (below Get Ready)

1. Low-Life
2. Technique
3. Republic
4. Get Ready
5. Movement
6. PC&L
7. WFTSC
8. Brotherhood

This is not a permanent list, but somewhat close to the truth for me probably. I just think Brotherhood is a bit weak in relation to most New Order albums, and i cannot rate WFTSC call too high, because it is competing with albums that have defined brilliance, and i feel it would be an injustice to rate it higher then almost any of the other new order albums at this point, its gonna have to earn its way up there. I know i speak for myself here, but before putting WFTSC high in you're rankings, consider what you are placing it above, Technique, low life?? For me, its a no way.

oldmonkey wrote:

Dave Algeo wrote: If you took the firsttrack from each of their albums you would have a foooooookin great listing.

Can I choose that?

After Stevie G's pinger today you can choose whatever you like Dave!

Kewl.

More of the same on Tuesday too please!

Better late than never... I'm surprised no one inserted Joy Division studio albums into the mix, so here goes:

1. Technique
2. Low Life
3. Brotherhood
4. WFTSC
5. Closer
6. PCL
7. Unknown Pleasures
8. Get Ready
9. Movement
10. Republic

If I could add the 1981-1982 EP, I'd put it right above #3. NO/JD have so many great singles outside the albums, too.

I'll one up you and put their compilations in too. Why? Cause I think outside the box. I'm crazy!

Unknown Pleasures Power, Corruption & Lies Technique Peel Sessions Waiting for the Sirens' Call Closer Movement Republic Get Ready Substance Still Brotherhood International Low-Life

Man this was tedious. I don't even care what my rankings are.

For what it's worth:-

1. Technique
2. Low-Life
3. WFTSC
4. Brotherhood
5. PCL
6. Republic
7. Get Ready
8. Movement

How lucky we are to get an album of such quality in WFTSC at this stage of their career. Sure people will correct me if I am wrong but is it the first record to have (obvious) slide/wah and 'whammy bar' guitars? (HEY NOW, MORNING). Phil's added some real buzz and bite to the guitars , they sound great, a real improvement on the clangy GET READY, IMHO. Everyone can be heard for that matter - Steve really drives the songs along (and pushes them into the stratosphere in some cases), Hooky just keeps doing his thing and Bernard, while no obviously great singer, vocalizes his lyrics brilliantly with those little nuances that one comes to love. Well done lads!

Here's to JETSTREAM winging it's way into the Top 5...they bloody deserve it after this record.

Technique Republic Brotherhood Get Ready Movement Lowlife PCL WFTSC

1. Get Ready! :)
2. Power, Corruption & Lies
3. Technique
4. Low-life
5. Brotherhood
6. Waiting for the Sirens Call
7. Republic
8. Movement?

I love get ready since it, too, got me into new order, and my fave song is run wild :) I can't stand a lot of songs on WFTSC only because the vocals (esp bernard's) drives me up the wall... hey joe makes me itch for the 'forward' button like crazy..the songs otherwise are great otherwise, it's just the singing..

movement has a ? because I don't actually have the cd, even though I'm sure I've heard some songs off it..and most of my mp3 files have probably been labeled wrong by whoever I downloaded it from...

I'm sure some of it would get pushed up or down if I took the time to really go through the albums and listen to them again, but my readings for class are calling to me...

~Victoria

republic pc&l technique brotherhood wftsc lowlife get ready movement

Without much thought and without looking at anyone else's list first:

Power, Corruption and Lies Low-Life Technique Waiting for the Sirens' Call Get Ready Brotherhood Movement Republic

Here's a disclaimer: I'm only considering the tunes here; the list would change if rankings incorporated (1) artwork and (2) sentimental value/associated memories.

Technique Low-Life WFTSC Brotherhood Republic Get Ready PC&L Movement

Here's mine:

1. Technique- My absolute fav

2. Low Life - A close second. Great stuff !!!

3. WFTSC - This really is No3 for me at the moment. can't stop listening to it.

4. PC&L - It was close between this and WFTSC as my third choice, because this has Age of
   Consent, Leave Me Alone, YSF and The
   Village, four of my favourite New Order tracks. WFTSC just nicks it at the moment though.

5)Brotherhood- Loved this when I first bought it. Bored of it now though.

6. Get Ready - Solid but nowhere near as good as WFTSC in my opinion.

7. Republic - I love Regret and Special and I really like Everyone Everywhere, Young Offender and Spooky but I don't really listen to the rest much.

8. Movement - This is probably the NO album i've listened to least. I'm not saying its necessarily the worst but it's my least favourite.

All of the above are subject to change, apart from 7 and 8 :)

1 TECHNIQUE

2 REPUBLIC

3 LOW LIFE

4 Waiting For The Siren's Call

5 Brotherhood

6 Power, Corruption % Lies

7 Movement

8 Get Ready

1.Technique 2.Lowlife 3.WFTSC 4.Republic 5.P,c&l 6.Get ready 7.Brotherhood 8.Movement

Technique Low-Life Power, Corruption & Lies Waiting For the Siren's Call Brotherhood Get Ready Movement Republic

Throughout the course of this discussion I'm amazed by two things. (1) How poorly Republic is regarded, and (2) How well Siren's Call is regarded.

I think Republic is totally underrated and has some of New Order's best songwriting, even if Hooky is sorely missing. I still don't get WFTSC unfortunately, the second half at least.

I'm not at all surprised by the low regard of Republic, Brad.

It's consistently slated by most music journos and even the band themselves. The 2-3 good tracks there are sunk by the deadweight of some of NO's worst ever material, in all its limp, overproduced glory.

I'm more surprised by the polarisation of respect for PC&L. Almost sacrilege in my book.

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