Bonus track for the US release !! + Online Music Store details.. — Forum Archive

3 Mar 2005, 19:08

I've got a scoop for you.

The US edition of Waiting The Sirens' Call will have one exclusive extra track.

Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (Mac Quayle Vocal Mix)

This is also what I received tonight, some release dates:

3/8/05 Digital Release

Krafty (Radio Edit)

Krafty (Album version)

3/22/05 Digital Exclusives

Itunes

Krafty (The Glimmers 12" Extended)

Krafty (The Glimmers Dub Version)

Yahoo Music

Krafty (Phones Reality Remix)

Napster

Krafty (Bernard's Re-edit)

Real/Rhapsody

Krafty (Riton Re-Dub Remix)

3/29/05 Digital Release

Waiting For The Sirens' Call UK version

4/26/05 CD Release

Waiting For The Sirens' Call US version *Includes bonus track Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (Mac Quayle Vocal Mix)

3 Mar 2005, 19:09

Hopefully it gets rid of those shite backing vocals!

3 Mar 2005, 19:42

A completist's fcuking nightmare.

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3 Mar 2005, 19:55

depthcharge wrote: A completist's fcuking nightmare.

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If this keeps up Krafty will be making a run for Blue Monday for most remixes. :eek: At this rate there will be 20 versions by next week, and 50 by the time the album is released. :laugh:

3 Mar 2005, 20:04

So the album release date has been pushed back again to the 26th? Amazon.com ( and yes, I do know that all dates are subject to change ) has it to be out on the 12th.

Brian

3 Mar 2005, 20:16

Lake Effect wrote:

depthcharge wrote: A completist's fcuking nightmare.

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If this keeps up Krafty will be making a run for Blue Monday for most remixes. At this rate there will be 20 versions by next week, and 50 by the time the album is released.

er... re-read, it's not Krafty that will be remixed!!

3 Mar 2005, 20:17

Brian Barker wrote: So the album release date has been pushed back again to the 26th? Amazon.com ( and yes, I do know that all dates are subject to change ) has it to be out on the 12th.

Brian

I guess so, I just got it from Warner, so it's acurate!

3 Mar 2005, 20:19

I just noticed... no Krafty single for the US!!!

It's all on iTunes and others...

So hurry to order the UK edition and put New Order on the chart map!

(I'll double check this though...)

3 Mar 2005, 20:37

Mmm... now it's interesting to buy a US version. I was about already to buy the UK one. :)

But wait, that remixed track - isn't it a hint this track to be released as a single? Maybe it's a remix off a second single in the UK and first in the US? :rolleyes:

3 Mar 2005, 20:56

I wish they would just make things simple & have all the remixes & such on each one of the digital music programs ( I personally use itunes, but have bought all the "real" new order albums). Although, I'm now really excited because of the GIAUE remix.

4 Mar 2005, 00:41

I like the idea of having different singles in different countries.

4 Mar 2005, 05:20

I'm curious though.. the date is now the same as Canada... will we get the bonus track as well then?

Usually, we're the same as the UK... but now :confused2:

4 Mar 2005, 07:24

depthcharge wrote: A completist's fcuking nightmare.

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Seriously... what the hell...

4 Mar 2005, 12:44

All I want to know is how I get my hands on the Guilt... remix.

:eek:

4 Mar 2005, 13:21

For those unaware, the GIAUE mixer Mac Quayle has an interesting history with New Order and Electronic. A lot of more commercial production and remix work in his recent resume:

Mac Quayle?

Don't know that I like the sound of a vocal mix though, may not veer too far from the original. I'm hoping for a major remix - beefed up with the vocals stripped back.

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4 Mar 2005, 13:38

afr0puff wrote:

depthcharge wrote: A completist's fcuking nightmare.

:\pimp3:

Seriously... what the hell...

My point was that along with buying the local CD of WFTSC, I'll now need to get both the US and Japanese versions to cover all the exclusive tracks. Not to mention CD promos, vinyl, various CD singles and now, digital downloads in order to cover all of the Krafty versions.

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4 Mar 2005, 14:10

depthcharge wrote: For those unaware, the GIAUE mixer Mac Quayle has an interesting history with New Order and Electronic. A lot of more commercial production and remix work in his recent resume:

Mac Quayle?

Don't know that I like the sound of a vocal mix though, may not veer too far from the original. I'm hoping for a major remix - beefed up with the vocals stripped back.

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His discography includes:

New Order - Confusion (Remix) and... New Order - 1969 (Remix)

:wtf:

4 Mar 2005, 14:18

According to the Twisted Tenderness liner notes... he did the keyboards on Breakdown, Can't Find My Way Home and Twisted Tenderness.

4 Mar 2005, 20:40

And in his comparatively short career as DJ, he has been igniting dance floors all over North America — New York, Miami, Minneapolis, Montreal and Toronto —with an original blend of high-octane progressive house music.

At least there's something related to New Order who cares coming to Montreal... :uhoh: (where is my favorite ROLLEYES smilie ???????).

Oh, I see he also did remixes for... Lara Fabian! :eek:

In any case, very good remixer. I expect heavy synths on that remix.

I asked Mac more info about what he did with the track, so he might drop by here sometime.

4 Mar 2005, 21:19

Here is what Mac said to my mail asking him more info.

Thanks so much for your interest, I would be happy to share my thoughts with your members. However, I’m curious to know about the information you received, my version of Guilt is not a remix but a production that I did with the band. Where did you hear about it?

I hope you holligans will welcome his words better than Mr Dresden of Gabriel & Dresden eh? :nono:

Obviously, he wasn't aware yet it was going to be on the US release.

4 Mar 2005, 21:28

nice one Spotnic!

4 Mar 2005, 22:10

Think everyone's a little mistaken that Quayle has remixed GIAUE whereas the info Nic has just states 'vocal mix'.

That discography of his includes tracks like Confusion and LWTUA but not all of that list appears to be remix work. Some of it is involvement with track production: programming, keyboards, etc.

Be great if you could get him in for a chat sometime Nic, he's got a pretty amazing resume. Let's hope we can keep it clean this time and show some respect.

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4 Mar 2005, 22:19

depthcharge wrote: Think everyone's a little mistaken that Quayle has remixed GIAUE whereas the info Nic has just states 'vocal mix'.

That discography of his includes tracks like Confusion and LWTUA but not all of that list appears to be remix work. Some of it is involvement with track production: programming, keyboards, etc.

Be great if you could get him in for a chat sometime Nic, he's got a pretty amazing resume. Let's hope we can keep it clean this time and show some respect.

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I have no fear, he said he did with WITH the band... people have respect for this...

4 Mar 2005, 23:54

UK,USA and JAP. £50 for 1 album,great...

5 Mar 2005, 00:17

SteveOne wrote: UK,USA and JAP. £50 for 1 album,great...

This is why I love my spot right now :evil4:

I even have contact with Warner Brazil right now!

5 Mar 2005, 05:38

Spotnick wrote:

SteveOne wrote: UK,USA and JAP. £50 for 1 album,great...

This is why I love my spot right now

I even have contact with Warner Brazil right now!

Warner Brazil - Marketing International - Mrs.:Fernanda Brant. Waiting... release here on March too. I think that same track list of UK version.

5 Mar 2005, 08:41

Denial_1963 wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

SteveOne wrote: UK,USA and JAP. £50 for 1 album,great...

This is why I love my spot right now

I even have contact with Warner Brazil right now!

Warner Brazil - Marketing International - Mrs.:Fernanda Brant. Waiting... release here on March too. I think that same track list of UK version.

That's who I'm talking with!

5 Mar 2005, 09:55

Spotnick wrote: Here is what Mac said to my mail asking him more info.

Thanks so much for your interest, I would be happy to share my thoughts with your members. However, I’m curious to know about the information you received, my version of Guilt is not a remix but a production that I did with the band. Where did you hear about it?

I hope you holligans will welcome his words better than Mr Dresden of Gabriel & Dresden eh?

Obviously, he wasn't aware yet it was going to be on the US release.

this is interesting... maybe Mac's version pre-dates the Stuart Price version and is more "New Order-ly"... so it not a "remix" at all, but maybe it's just an earlier studio production version... then New order did the version with Stuart Price and decided to put that one on WFTSC.

Barney said in a interview that "Guilt" had a complicated or long history, or something to that effect... i'm too lazy to look up the quote

5 Mar 2005, 16:16

Continuing the chat with Mac Quayle:

My version is really another production of the song which I started with the band over in England last fall and finished here at my studio in LA. It was a great experience to work with them as I have been a big fan for 25 years and I would love for the New Order world to know that I am a producer on the album rather than just a remixer. Of course I would be more than happy to do an interview for the website and share some of my experiences in working on the record.

So if anyone has intelligent questions to ask, post them over, I'll relay them.

5 Mar 2005, 18:36

Spotnick wrote: Here is what Mac said to my mail asking him more info.

Oh great, another original move from Spotnick... :nonono:

5 Mar 2005, 18:55

A Siren's Touch wrote:

Spotnick wrote: Here is what Mac said to my mail asking him more info.

Oh great, another original move from Spotnick...

What can I say, I had the same idea you did, just a few hours earlier... great minds think alike.

6 Mar 2005, 00:41

SteveOne wrote: UK,USA and JAP. £50 for 1 album,great...

Just skip the UK release, unless you care about chart placing.

6 Mar 2005, 01:27

No overriding reason for us to get the Australian release apart from improving their sales, chart position and overall popularity here -- ingredients that can convince a promoter to get them back out here!

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6 Mar 2005, 06:56

Can't we petition the UK record label (is it still London?) to put the Japanese and US bonus tracks on the next CD single taken from the album? At least that will make a break from all the umpteen remixes of whatever the next single will be. Perhaps 'Guilt Is A Useless Emotion' will be the next single anyway, but it's doing my nut in having to buy foreign editions of albums just to keep my Arab Steap and New Order collections complete...!

Yours exasperatedly,

Andy