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What do you think. I say so....... If Ian didnt die, then there would be no New order, no Hacienda, and beacuse of that there would be no Blue Monday and all you would hear today is hip hop and rock. Blue Monday changed music today. I dunno know who would be influenced by Kraftwerk and perfected Techno for todays music. And without the Hacienda, there would be no house music. I am nt saying how or why Ian died is a good thing, but funny how things happen.... and no one would think Ian's death changed anything.....

Richard.

Richard Latanville wrote:

And without the Hacienda, there would be no house music.

Richard.

uh, you have no clue about the history of house music. your statement couldn't be any further from reality.

uh, i thought house music was originated from the Hacianda, then where?

Richard Latanville wrote: uh, i thought house music was originated from the Hacianda, then where?

It originated in an American club (sorry, forget what city it was in) called The Warehouse in the 80s. In fact, it took its name from the club. Then garage came from the Paradise Garage in NY around the same time.

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at the WareHOUSE in Chicago. the Hacienda had a hand in the popularity of Acid House and is an integral part of the House music story, but to say there'd be no House without the Hacienda is way off base.

I think that if Ian would have lived Rock music would have definently been different. Although, New Order says they wouldn't have changed much. Who knows really, its like the Curt Cobain question. I think Ian living would have stopped bands like Duran Duran & U2 in their tracks though!

I think if Ian had lived, Joy Division would've split after two more albums. We'd probably never hear much from any of them again.

Jim Ferguson wrote: I think if Ian had lived, Joy Division would've split after two more albums. We'd probably never hear much from any of them again.

Possibly, but they would kick Ian out for his angst-driven behaviours. Then New order would be reborn. Who knows.

If he hadn't died, we'd never have to answer another one of these "what if" sort of questions again.

Does that mean I wouldn't have to see that nauseating Scanners loop in your signature every damn day, o papal one? :dead: ;)

Of course not. We'd all be posting things like "What if Ian hadn't split his leather pants and been arrested for indecent exposure in Salt Lake City on 4 August 1987?"

And Digital Mike would fawn about because he'd have a decent enough bootleg of the show where you could hear the pants rip.

If Ian had not died, I predict that today he would have been fat.

Blue Monday changed music,the best record ever

Dashiell Hannett wrote: If Ian had not died, I predict that today he would have been fat.

He'd have fattened up to a plump hundred-and-thirty pounds by now.

There'd be a fourth side project titled "The Gurning".

Biznotic Love Trapezoid wrote: at the WareHOUSE in Chicago.

Chicago, that was it! I forgot what city it was in for a minute there. Ta very much, BLT! :)

Jim Ferguson wrote: I think if Ian had lived, Joy Division would've split after two more albums.

That makes the most sense,by 83-84 the JD sound would have sounded 10 times darker with the arrival of the new romantic movement. NewOrder changed their sound to move away from their JD roots,they might have made 'Movement' but not 'Power,Corruption and Lies' (so no Blue Monday).

As for house music,it didn`t start in the Warehouse or Paradise Garage. It was basically disco mixed with hip hip,electro and the likes of Kraftwerk,NewOrder and Freeez. If anywhere it started in Studio 54 and on the streets of NYC.