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We have just created a new forum called Music for pleasure, it's actually Ally's idea to have a specific forum to discuss about all the side-projects.
We'll see how it works, if it doesn't work we'll merge it back, but I believe it might actually be a good idea... and no, I don't have any plan for a JD one yet, since NO = JD :D
Ally is, of course, the moderator of this forum.
Nic, I still think you should bring back The Sound of Music forum for all the off-topic music threads. I could be the moderator! 
Everyone come and give the new forum a go I think we
could get some good discussions going, not to mention everyone
having a stab at reviewing their favourite albums or singles. As
Nic says it's not really a Joy Division forum (or Marion for Phil
).
On the other hand, if you thought the side-project bands as a whole
were not your cup of tea then please don't waste posts in the
new forum by saying "They're all shit" (Mike I see you've already left
your
distinctive mark
). Simply don't view or post in the new forum and stick
to
here, easy and saves petty bickering. The forum's natural audience should be those who enjoyed the
side project music and followed them during New Order's hiatus period
(8 years), it's also for the benefit of newbie
fans who may have questions or are hunting for SP records/info.
Cheers, hope everyone will try to contribute
Ally.
Uhm, though I've said I see Joy Division and New Order as the same band, well, they're not exactly the same band... the records are certainly different and when I think at New Order I think at a band which had the debut album with Movement, though I still feel this strong connection with Joy Division, which were their first incarnation... maybe we should have another forum about Joy Division, or maybe it wouldn't make sense since there's already one... maybe we should treat them as a side project or maybe I just should stop worrying about these silly things, after all there's nothing wrong really in posting about JD on Digital Republic... 
Ally3000 wrote: (or Marillion for Phil
That wouldn't be Marion you're referring to there, would it, Mr Moderator ? 
Johnny Giles wrote:
Ally3000 wrote: (or Marillion for Phil
That wouldn't be Marion you're referring to there, would it, Mr Moderator ?
He did it twice, actually. 
Johnny Giles wrote:
Ally3000 wrote: (or Marillion for Phil
That wouldn't be Marion you're referring to there, would it, Mr Moderator ?
Ooops! Yes my mistake, thanks for that I've modified the posts
now 
I was sure it was Marillion, but they're some sort of
dodgy soft metal
band aren't they after a quick look on Google? I knew it was
began with a "Mar" anyway. I've never heard of
Marion stuff as I'm sure most people here
haven't (that's probably what finished their career off lol) anyone got
a dusty CD tucked away? Phil seems like a nice chap, he certainly
offsets the band's average age by a few years
Ally.
Ally3000 wrote:
Johnny Giles wrote:
Ally3000 wrote: (or Marillion for Phil
That wouldn't be Marion you're referring to there, would it, Mr Moderator ?
I was sure it was Marillion, but they're some sort of dodgy soft metal band aren't they after a quick look on Google? I'd never heard of Marion really or any of their stuff as I'm sure most people here haven't (that's probably what finished them off lol)
Ally.
Lofl. You are winding me up right ?!
I'm pretty sure most, if not all on here have heard of Marion specifically because its the former band of Phil Cunningham, who's now in...er...oh hang on a minute, whats-their-name??, er, Manchester band, did Blue Monday...oh, it'll come back to me.......
And if you're looking for a connection with 'side projects', Marion supported Monaco on a UK tour so I'd imagine there's a few on here, like me, who've seen Marion as well. Phil also worked with Elecronic during his Marion days.
Am almost as shocked you don't know Marillion either. Granted, they are utter shite, but they've had top 5 hits [Kayleigh/Lavendar] and singer-songwriter Fish, named cos of his drinking habits, has enjoyed a fair amount of media coverage over the years. From your neck of the woods too.
Keep up the research
Johnny Giles wrote: Lofl. You are winding me up right ?!
I'm pretty sure most, if not all on here have heard of Marion specifically because its the former band of Phil Cunningham, who's now in...er...oh hang on a minute, whats-their-name??, er, Manchester band, did Blue Monday...oh, it'll come back to me.......
And if you're looking for a connection with 'side projects', Marion supported Monaco on a UK tour so I'd imagine there's a few on here, like me, who've seen Marion as well. Phil also worked with Elecronic during his Marion days.
Am almost as shocked you don't know Marillion either. Granted, they are utter shite, but they've had top 5 hits [Kayleigh/Lavendar] and singer-songwriter Fish, named cos of his drinking habits, has enjoyed a fair amount of media coverage over the years. From your neck of the woods too.
Keep up the research
To be fair to me just because you're familiar with Marion doesn't necessarily mean I, or other people here are. The name rang a distant bell with me when I heard of Phil's connection to them but I haven't heard any of their music, nor own any of their albums. I did know Phil was a band member of Electronic as I recognised him on Jo Whiley's C4 show when they performed "Haze" around '99. Also, I'm not that up on Monaco's support bands from 8 years ago either, although I do remember Hurricane #1 supported them on one of their first tours which was Gem Archer's band who's now in Oasis? As for Marillion, nope I don't know them either, they're not really in my musical listening sphere. We all grew up listening to different bands and there's most likely bands you know that I have no clue about and vice-versa.
Having a tittle at my knowledge (or lack of) of these bands doesn't really bother me, I was simply trying to contribute a new forum to the board. Thanks for correcting my mis-type, but I wish I'd never included anything about Phil now.
Ally.
Thought you were short of bandwidth Nic? Another new forum is only going to make things worse!
Ally3000 wrote:
Ooops! Yes my mistake, thanks for that I've modified the posts now
*Marillion were the band for the progressive nostalgic of the 80s. When Genesis went straight pop and Yes tried even new wave to survive, Marillion took the flag of progressive rock for those who were still interested... I don't usually like progressive rock, but I respect them, mostly because that flag was so unfashionable, just like new wave in the 90s, so I identify with them, I know how it feels to feel so alien to the current trend... If you hear them in their first period they really sound like a better version of Genesis, also because Fish had a voice very similar to Phil Collins. He started a solo career after leaving the band, who carried on with another singer who had a more melodic voice, and from what I heard they made varied stuff, some records were experimental progressive and others were more melodic sophisticated pop... anyway all the songs I've heard are alright, there's quality in them and I'd like to have time to hear more, though they're not the music I usually follow, but maybe that's what makes them so interesting after all. They still have a large cult following and always get excited reviews from usually very selective journalists of the genre... from what I know they've been the most important band of that area in the last two decades...
Marion were pioneers of the new wave revival. When everyone was doing Britpop, they came out saying they were inspired by Joy Division, if you read the interviews you could think at a prototype of Interpol.
In fact they compromised their sound a lot, trying to make it palatable to the audience of the time, and so you hear a band wandering somewhere between Shed Seven and Placebo, nothing really special and nothing similar to the current wave of new wave revival bringing truly interesting bands like Bloc Party...
When I first heard Phil was going to play in New Order I was almost worried, but I was wrong... actually he was already OK in Electronic, and he's been a wonderful addition to New Order, I've enjoyed seeing him live and I like what I think I can identify as his work on the new album. Maybe he was just in the wrong band in Marion... he's certainly in the right band now...
steve hogarth from the band "how we live" replaced fish face in marillion - i assumed ally was joking when he said phil used to be in marillion - didn't realise he was making an error
ally - drop me an e-mail if you want to hear some marion stuff.
