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Wow! It's really great! I can't stop listening it. Why didn't New Order put it on the album?
I have a little wonder. Did Barney sing the whole song? On the start of this song, singing voice does not sound like Barney's one. Little different.
Is there anyone who feels like me?
It's called multitracking.The ability to record various takes and e.q them,adjust parameters ,add f/x etc... All in the name of production.All done on computers,probably using Cubase.
Technically, they list Protools on the Crystal single. Arthur Baker produced BCD. Excellent song. I think the two different styles represent a shift in perspective. It seems like their are two parts to this song lyrically and stylistically.
@ chris:
do you really think the first few lines are multitracked ??? I don't think so. To me it sounds like just one track very well equalized and mixed right in the front. I guess if it was multitracked you should hear a doubled voice which you don't. And we all know that Barney isn't the toughest in modern multitrack vocal recording ;-)
by the way, has anyone figured out the lyrics to "Behind Closed Doors" yet ???
I don't think the vocal was recorded in one take.Probably a few ,then the best takes/phrases were ,maybe ,spliced together.This would allow various mic positions to be utillised. Anything's possible these days. Technology has moved on so much to allow greater flexibility in recording.
I just got the Crystal single the other day and I love Behind Closed Doors!!! I love Bernard's voice in the first verse of the song, sounding like he is whispering a bit! On the topic of why they didn't put this on the album, here are my thoughts:
They put this song as a b-side to the single in order to start discussions (a really good one was going on Ceremony) that would get people talking and then more would know about the single and upcoming album.
It may be sort of a twisted way of promoting the album..
If you think about it, it makes sense... when does New Order do anything that is the same as everyone else? 
Brilliant!
Here is my take at the lyrics -- feel free to add/modify, etc....
NEW ORDER - BEHIND CLOSED DOORS===================================
There is a secret place underneath a tree What if you go in haze? You will find a key A key who open doors and you will look inside The things that you will see will open up your eyes
On any given time On every other street The city comes to life Though everyone's asleep A man beats up his wife He doesn't wanna keep Behind closed doors They're in retreat
I don't know what makes me stay The city life just ain't the same There's something wrong with kids today I blame their parents anyway There's no (home?) No one to trust I can't (come?) It's obvious Please don't take my drugs away I'm gonna give them up someday
There is a place somewhere That I could call (upon?) I live(d?) without a care (I'll never be alone?) One day I will get there A feeling in my bones I check upon the scores I listen to The Coors Behind closed doors
Behind closed doors Behind closed doors They still want more Behind closed doors
____________________ I find that the most important thing in the world these days is to be able to wake up in the morning, look at yourself in a mirror and think, 'Fuck, I'm looking forward to this day.' I haven't been like that for a very long time. I lived a lie. -Peter Hook
Here are corrections in my opinion:
"where if you go and haze" I am not sure what they mean by haze though!
"the key will open a door" I hear him saying "a" and "door" quickly like one word "I blame the parents anyway" "there's no hope" "I can't cope" "that I could call a home" "I'd live without a care" "I'd never be alone" "I listen to the cause"
I didn't put the original post's meanings because it would take up too much space, you will understand!!
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's The Corrs.. the music band, as somebody said on the Ceremony Mailing List, but then again..!
As for the reason why it is not on the album, this is an Arthur Baker track, not Steve Osbourne.
And I must say that I'm not all over this track like many people in here seems to be! This is another "not-so" New Order track that I will probably like with time...
Originally posted by Nicolas LeBlanc Well, I'm pretty sure it's The Corrs.. the music band, as somebody said on the Ceremony Mailing List, but then again..!
Well if it referencing the The Corrs that makes more sense...
I agree with April's suggestions, except as follows:
"if you go in HASTE" (definitely not "HAZE"; not sure if the first word is "WHAT" or "WHERE")
"A key will open DOORS" (not "A DOOR")
"AT any given time" (not "ON")
"I FEEL IT in my bones" (not "A FEELING")
Originally posted by Patrick I agree with April's suggestions, except as follows:"if you go in HASTE" (definitely not "HAZE"; not sure if the first word is "WHAT" or "WHERE")"A key will open DOORS" (not "A DOOR")"AT any given time" (not "ON")"I FEEL IT in my bones" (not "A FEELING")
OK, explain to me what it means to "go in haste"...
to go in haste means to go quickly, without looking for sunscreen, ponytail holders, cd's for the trip, proper clothing etc...
Originally posted by brian geoghagan to go in haste means to go quickly, without looking for sunscreen, ponytail holders, cd's for the trip, proper clothing etc...
To summarize, not to act like a woman?
(macho comment of the week, thank you very much)
____________________ Proud fan and follower of Nicholas Huntsman. :D
i stand accused of causing my girlfriend to wait for me due to all of the listed items, thank you for the assumption though.
apologies to april if she felt offended. i am constantly making my people wait because i have to find the right cd for the trip or the right jacket (the weather changes in seattle constantly). So i always leave "in haste" i know too well what it means. lately it's been the crystal single (for lee combs mix and BEHIND CLOSED DOORS (fucking great song and real reason for this topic)) Tomorrow i'm sure it will be Reading 98---Thanks Rob!!!
Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert > Originally posted by brian geoghagan> to go in haste means to go quickly, without looking for sunscreen, ponytail holders, cd's for the trip, proper clothing etc...
To summarize, not to act like a woman?
(macho comment of the week, thank you very much)
____________________ Proud fan and follower of Nicholas Huntsman. :D
That is just a MAN comment! :p
Originally posted by brian geoghagan i stand accused of causing my girlfriend to wait for me due to all of the listed items, thank you for the assumption though.
No offense taken, I am one of those girls that can actually get ready from start to finish in about 30 minutes and look quite decent :p
I appreciate the definition, coming from where I come from you don't hear words like "haste" very often...
Originally posted by April > Originally posted by brian geoghagan> i stand accused of causing my girlfriend to wait for me due to all of the listed items, thank you for the assumption though.
No offense taken, I am one of those girls that can actually get ready from start to finish in about 30 minutes and look quite decent :p
I appreciate the definition, coming from where I come from you don't hear words like "haste" very often...
Well, for the record, I act like a woman myself, following the definition above.
Seb.
____________________ Without you, I'm left alone. Without you, I'm on my own.
So after all this time -- is BEHIND CLOSED DOORS as good or as bad as it was to your taste ?
P.S. Where is Heather Kim these days!!!
It's a very chilled out song youn Spock, it's on the b-side to Crystal (sorry bonus track on CD
)
Always liked it - mellow yellow, a lot of people made up their own Get Ready CD's with the session songs which were used as b-sides as extra tracks.
But yer right, as soon as a female appeared, Sebsy would have a go:D
It's a great song and well produced. I always thought the lines about The Corrs were another of Barney's great jokes, you'd listen to The Corrs behind closed doors because you wouldn't want yer mates finding out!
Originally posted by FDISK It's a great song and well produced. I always thought the lines about The Corrs were another of Barney's great jokes, you'd listen to The Corrs behind closed doors because you wouldn't want yer mates finding out!
its bland everyday living he's talking about there, checking the scores, listening to generic pap music, just basically turning into everybody else.
the reason its not on the album is that it would stick out like a sore thumb. you must be getting confused with a pop album with a bunch of unrelated singles produced by different people intersperced with filler :)
previously NO would just have released them (BCD, Sabotage, Player in the League) as singles. but they have been chastised enough over the years for singles not on the albums, and now as single sales are so low, they are only any good to promote your album
Here's the lyrics as I hear them (corrections in bold):
There is a secret place Underneath a tree Where if you go in haste You will find a key The key will open doors And you will look inside The things that you will see Will open up your eyes
At any given time On every other street The city comes to life But everyone's asleep A man beats up his wife He doesn't wanna keep Behind closed doors They're in retreat
I don't know what makes me stay This city life just ain't the same There's something wrong with kids today I blame the parents anyway There's no hope No one to trust I can't cope It's obvious Please don't take my drugs away I'm gonna give them up someday
There is a place somewhere That I could call a home I'd live without a care I'd never be alone One day I will get there I feel it in my bones I'd check upon the scores I'd listen to The Corrs
Behind closed doors Behind closed doors Behind closed doors They still want more Behind closed doors
Just given the song another listen now. Yeah it's a good 'un. Barney's 'Regret' style of lyrics about life in the "real world". Possibly left off the album, because it's more subtle and electronic than the other album tracks such as 'Primitive Notion' and 'Crystal'. May have been slightly out-of-place at a time New Order were trying to come back with their amps turned up to 9.5.
Andy
What if you go in haste Where
A man beats up his wife The wife
(don't have access at the moment, not sure if that's what he sings or if it just seems a logical correction)
I'd listen to The Corrs 'n listen..
Originally posted by FDISK It's a great song and well produced. I always thought the lines about The Corrs were another of Barney's great jokes, you'd listen to The Corrs behind closed doors because you wouldn't want yer mates finding out!
Definitely one of the best songs New Order recorded since they came back with Brutal.
Originally posted by ShugZV© But yer right, as soon as a female appeared, Sebsy would have a go:D
Originally posted by Maya Z yeah, The Corrs SUX!
We are generally embarressed to admit they are Irish over here, they seem to exist on their 'looks' alone - personally I wouldnt be interested in them at all (except possibly the drummer?).
Anyway, sorry about the Corrs, from Ireland.
Originally posted by CuanaD > Originally posted by Maya Z> yeah, The Corrs SUX!
We are generally embarressed to admit they are Irish over here, they seem to exist on their 'looks' alone - personally I wouldnt be interested in them at all (except possibly the drummer?).
Anyway, sorry about the Corrs, from Ireland.
Oh yeah the drummer! 
Shame the music really sucks
