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Hey!

After a very long and hard week of work, I just came home late tonight after seeing Nutcracker (which I always thought was a frightening title for any average guy, but that's another question) and I found a very nice little surprise in my mailbox: my copy of True Faith - A tribute to newOrder.

I didn't even listen to it yet because I'm excited about the package itself -- the design is great and it was all done in a very professionnal way! The booklet is very nice -- not only does it have NewOrderOnline mentionned two times in it, but Nicolas and I even have our names on it as well! Also, there is a list of names of the fans supporting the project, and the first one on the list is our good friend François-Marc Loze.

Now, I'll have to listen to it! :)

Seb.

P.S. For more info, check out: synthphonyrecords.com.

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Just got home from Christmas shopping, and saw that disc in the bins. Thought about buying it once or five times, but I decided to get the Rutles DVD instead(okay, I'm sure everyone buys themselves a little something during the holidays, and I guarantee that the tribute disc will still be there in one week). Anxiously awaiting your views on said disc, Seb.

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heh...and I was about to ask if anyone had picked this up yet...so come on...tell us how it is!!!!

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Ahem... I guess I should order it then ;)

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I am intrigued, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Besides, I have finally broken down and ordered Technique, so don't push me....

Speaking of "picking up something for yourself", I decided to get Either/Or by Kierkegaard. Why, you ask? To impress the philosophy chicks, that's why! Oh yeah!

Green, I have the vhs of the Rutles' story. What are the goodies on the DVD, in case I decide to check it out?

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Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I am intrigued, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Besides, I have finally broken down and ordered Technique, so don't push me....Speaking of "picking up something for yourself", I decided to get Either/Or by Kierkegaard. Why, you ask? To impress the philosophy chicks, that's why! Oh yeah!Green, I have the vhs of the Rutles' story. What are the goodies on the DVD, in case I decide to check it out?

Ah, so after all the threats of expelling you off this website for not being a right owner of NewOrderTechnique, you finally decided to move forward!

Okay, I'll leave you alone for a while.

But maybe you should consider buying this tribute album as well because my name is in the booklet, which makes it all worthwhile by itself.

:D

Seb.

P.S. Never heard of the Rutles! What are these/they ?

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Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> I am intrigued, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Besides, I have finally broken down and ordered Technique, so don't push me....> > Speaking of "picking up something for yourself", I decided to get Either/Or by Kierkegaard. Why, you ask? To impress the philosophy chicks, that's why! Oh yeah!> > Green, I have the vhs of the Rutles' story. What are the goodies on the DVD, in case I decide to check it out?

Ah, so after all the threats of expelling you off this website for not being a right owner of NewOrderTechnique, you finally decided to move forward!

Okay, I'll leave you alone for a while.

But maybe you should consider buying this tribute album as well because my name is in the booklet, which makes it all worthwhile by itself.

:D

Seb.

P.S. Never heard of the Rutles! What are these/they ?

Look Sebsy!!!

it's your 1000th post...

:clap: :jump:

you made it...

and I thought you were off thinking something brilliant and philosophical for this one....

mine will be just like yours...when it come's up...it's there...

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Ah, little Sebastian, so much to tell you (about the Rutles)....

Quite possibly the funniest side project (barring Fawlty Towers) of any of the Monty Python alum, it features Eric Idle as the narrator in this "fact-based account" of the Pre-fab Four from (you guessed it) Liverpool. Eric also plays the Paul McCartney role, while Neil Innes is a devilishly funny John Lennon-esque character, Ricki Fataar plays a very Indian-looking George Harrison, and John Halsey in the Ringo of the piece (their character names are Dirk McQuickly {Eric}, Ron Nasty {Innes}, Stig O'Hara {Ricki}, and Barry Wom {Halsey}). It's well worth checking out, it even features a cameo by the late great GH himself as another newsman. Go out and rent it now! Better yet, buy it! Now! What are you waiting for?.....

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Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I am intrigued, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Besides, I have finally broken down and ordered Technique, so don't push me....Speaking of "picking up something for yourself", I decided to get Either/Or by Kierkegaard. Why, you ask? To impress the philosophy chicks, that's why! Oh yeah!Green, I have the vhs of the Rutles' story. What are the goodies on the DVD, in case I decide to check it out?

In my now unofficial role now as spokesperson for Rhino Home Video, with specific task assignment to drum up interest for domestic sales.

(reading from official company material: hey the back of the DVD counts as that) It sez that it has "Animated Menus/Director's Commentary and Introduction by Eric Idle/Photo Gallery/Selected Memoirs by Eric Idle/Play Songs Only Feature/New Transfer From Original 16mm print/Deleted Scenes/Languages:English"

Haven't watched it yet, as I was just a bit too wasted last night to try and open that stupid plastic wrapping. Thank God I didn't buy any CD's last night! Being able to operate a computer while drunk is no problemo, but not so with that problematic shrink wrap. I'll let you know how it is soon, Taboo.

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Okay!

Here is my review of TRUE FAITH: a tribute to newOrder.

First of all, the overall package was nicely done. The booklet is nice and the overall design as well. The best of every tribute albums I've seen so far.

Now, regarding the content: as many of you were afraid of, this is a SYNTHPOP cover album. Most of the bands featured on this album are bands who are trying to break through the musical industry or just doing it for fun. Do not expect big names in there. Also, several of the vocals are cack (I'm using a Brit expression without even knowing it's true meaning -- great). I mean, they're kinda bad or lame, but some others are very good. So, with that in mind, here is my song by song review:

True Faith by INTACT feat. Robert Enforsen: Nice production. The voice is ok. Sounds weird with an american accent though (or is it?). Easy to listening to. Of course, the song is so good by itself that if you listen to this version, you will start thumping your feet without even realizing after a while. So yes, I like this one.

Bizarre Love Triangle by Days of Fate: Once again, I think the production on this one is above average for this kind of album. As a matter of fact, I think this track could surprisingly do well in clubs! The guitar part is very catchy the way it was done, and the chorus is very catchy as well. A sing-along song version. I like the voice as well quite a lot! Maybe one of the best covers of BLT ever done. Of course, I don't expect the New Order fans to be objective about this one -- but if you forget about New Order for a moment and try to listen objectively to this version, then you may find out that it was very well done. Bravo.

Confusion by Seabound: My first impression was a VERY BAD ONE because the intro is made by New Order's original sound samples of the same song. Not a very difficult way to cover a song, I told myself. But at 15 seconds into the song, a very cool robotic voice saying "CON-FU-SION!" comes in and catches your attention, and what is following that comes out to be quite good actually. I believe that those who like the original version (or 1987 one) will most certainly like this cover version, which stays true to the original version but adds a nice edge to it.

Thieves Like Us by Shades of Gray: Can't really stand this one. A 130 or 140 BPM techno version filled with vocoded robotic voices is not exactly suited for Thieves Like Us in my opinion, but then again, I'm sure there are people out there who will find this one interesting. But I think they killed both the feeling in the song and the melody as well.

Ceremony by Atlantic Popes: Not sure about this one. I think the keyboards are bad. Doesn't compare to The Echoing Green's fantastic version that came out earlier this year. And the voice is absolutely terrible. Did I mention that Atlantic Popes are a german duo? Because the german accent is quite noticeable on that one... I must say that it makes it all quite funny and entertaining. A bit kitsch. And I'm ashamed to admit that it is VERY HARD not to stomp your feet or sing along on this one. I'm sure Allen Jarvis would like Ceremony even if it was played by a bunch of monkeys, so with that in mind, this version passed the test, but with a mark of 60. :)

Love Vigilante by Hungry Lucy: no, the mispelling is not mine -- it's written "Vigilante" without the "s". It wouldn't be a good tribute album without it, would it? But it doesn't matter, because this may be THE BEST COVER VERSION ON THE ALBUM. I like it quite a lot. It's sang by a female with a very very sweet and cute voice, and the version is very calm & quiet & sweet & atmospheric with nice piano. HL's bio says they also did in the past covers of Depeche Mode's Blue Dress and the Pet Shop Boys' Jealousy. Very very good in my opinion. A+. Bravo.

Temptation by Invisible Limits: Once again, very true to the original. Nice keyboards. Female voice. Very good I think.

Blue Monday by Wave in Head: Yet another version. Yawn. What can I say? I can't really stand the voice of the singer on this one, but then again I can't really say it's bad. But I tend to skip it, just because I'm sick of Blue Monday covers, so my judgement is affected accordingly probably.

Perfect Kiss by ParadoxxThis is the kind of synthpop version I run away from usually. Female vocals. The keyboards are kind of bad. Not a very good production. And they added additionnal vocals who goes like this: "why did you leave me BAAAAAABYYYYY ?". Could have done without. Sorry, Paradoxx. The exit is down there.

Every Little Counts by Equatronic: Nice female vocals. Very annoying noises in there which are ruining the version in my opinion. Too bad, because it has good elements as well. But I will probably be skipping that one too. It gets hard for the ears.

Vanishing Point by Provision: I think my old Pentium 200 Mhz could come up with better keyboard noises without even been pluggued to a keyboard. THAT SOUNDS VERY BAD. Was there a sale at Wal-Mart for Casio toy keyboards? Who decided to keep THIS GUY to sing on this one? It's godawful! And what was the point of shouting "VANISHING POINT!!!!" at the end? Cheese world, ladies and gentlemen.

Shellshock by D'Woolve: Another embarassing moment I think. The voice might be a bit better, but the production on this track is CRAP. Pure crap. Personally, I wouldn't have kept this track for the CD -- it doesn't meet the quality standards of the other tracks. It doesn't sound professional at all. This is a pure case of track skipping. Find me an axe.

Your Silent Face by Persona: After 4 bad tracks, the quality seems to fall back in place. This one is a lot nicer to listen to, even if the song is based, once again, on below average keyboards/sound equipment. Nothing much to add, but maybe to say that it's an ok version after all.

1963 by Dark Distant Spaces: Didn't like it the first minute, but I was happily surprised by the end of the song! Not bad at all. It's a 125-130 BPM version. Nice sounds, nice keyboards. Stays true to the original and enhances it, even. The voice of the singer is not really good, but I can live with it. I would have wished for a woman to sing on this one. At the end, the singer changes the lyrics for "I will always feel for you" (instead of "feel free").

SO, OVERALL:GOOD TRACKS:True FaithBizarre Love TriangleConfusionCeremonyLove VigilanteTemptationYour Silent Face1963BAD TRACKS:Thieves Like UsBlue MondayPerfect KissEvery Little CountsVanishing PointShellshock

There you go.

Seb.

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Originally posted by Jeff, just Jeff, no last name > Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert> > > > Originally posted by Taboo # 7>

Look Sebsy!!!

it's your 1000th post...

:clap: :jump:

you made it...

and I thought you were off thinking something brilliant and philosophical for this one....

mine will be just like yours...when it come's up...it's there...

Wow!

I hadn't even realised! I knew it was coming soon, but I totally forgot about it!

But now, having its 1000th post on the site isn't anything really special anymore it seems. Especially with this whole bunch of one liners off-topic messages. :) Maybe the 5000th mark will be something else!

Seb.

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Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Ah, little Sebastian, so much to tell you (about the Rutles)....Quite possibly the funniest side project (barring Fawlty Towers) of any of the Monty Python alum, it features Eric Idle as the narrator in this "fact-based account" of the Pre-fab Four from (you guessed it) Liverpool. Eric also plays the Paul McCartney role, while Neil Innes is a devilishly funny John Lennon-esque character, Ricki Fataar plays a very Indian-looking George Harrison, and John Halsey in the Ringo of the piece (their character names are Dirk McQuickly {Eric}, Ron Nasty {Innes}, Stig O'Hara {Ricki}, and Barry Wom {Halsey}). It's well worth checking out, it even features a cameo by the late great GH himself as another newsman. Go out and rent it now! Better yet, buy it! Now! What are you waiting for?.....

Huh, the problem usually with this sort of humor is that you have to know about the cultural references being made in that type of show, otherwise you don't get the jokes, and being a french canadian, it makes it harder for me. I'm even surprised you like it yourself, since it seems to be very British in terms of cultural references!

By the way, did I ever tell you I'm a David Letterman fan?

nevermind.

Seb.

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Cheers for the review Seb, do you know if it will be released over here? Congrats for the 1000 mate;) That version of LV in the multi-media section by Love seed mama jump is my particular favourite cover...honest...so American:lol: So hopefully this new version will be even better:nod:

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Hmmmm, it certainly sounds intriguing but then without sounding like a snob I'm not the biggest fan of other peoples versions of New Order songs. Trying to play with what's already (mostly) genius carries a heavy penalty in my book - if you see what i mean. :skeptic:

Todd

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Originally posted by Shug Cheers for the review Seb, do you know if it will be released over here? Congrats for the 1000 mate;)That version of LV in the multi-media section by Love seed mama jump is my particular favourite cover...honest...so American:lol: So hopefully this new version will be even better:nod:

I don't know about an european release yet -- I'll let you know soonish!

Seb.

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i hate tribute albums if its anything like the two JD tribute albums im not going to bother and since there a version done by Paradox (horrible band from my home town who left because they were terrible and no one liked them) i dont see the point

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And to the esteemed Mr. B....would you suggest I pick this little gem up??? Or could I live without it???

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To be honest, you could certainly live without it, but I would also certainly recommend it to New Order collectors. But I do suggest that you think about it based on the fact that Nicolas and I have both our names in the booklet and that NewOrderOnline is mentionned twice! ;)

Besides, all the profits are going to the Red Cross.

As for tribute albums in general, I stay put with my original comments: I think that "Re: Movement", the Japanese tribute album, has several VERY INTERESTING covers. You can listen to the tracks of this album in the covers audio section of this site.

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Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert To be honest, you could certainly live without it, but I would also certainly recommend it to New Order collectors. But I do suggest that you think about it based on the fact that Nicolas and I have both our names in the booklet and that NewOrderOnline is mentionned twice! ;)Besides, all the profits are going to the Red Cross.As for tribute albums in general, I stay put with my original comments: I think that "Re: Movement", the Japanese tribute album, has several VERY INTERESTING covers. You can listen to the tracks of this album in the covers audio section of this site.

Okay Sebsy...

I shall begin my quest in the morning....

just for the joy of seeing you two immortalized in print...

Cheers...

oh...and Merry Christmas sir....:xmas:

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Merry Christmas to you as well, Jeffy! :xmas:

Did you get over the presents you've got, yet? :D

(direct reference to the other thread where you mention them and which caused me to laugh quite a lot)

By the way, don't you have a BOXING DAY as well in the U.S. of A. the day following christmas? What kind of deals do you get in record shops? The usual deal here, started by HMV and followed by almost every other store is that you buy 3 CDs and the fourth one (the less expensive of the lot, of course) is FREE. Any type of deal like that in Dallas? That free CD might be the New Order tribute, so if you LOATHE it, you can always tell yourself that you got it for free after all. :lol:

Seb.

S.

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Nope...boxing day is not done here...I always wondered what that was when I saw it on the calender when I was younger...I thought you Canadians and the folks in the UK just all went to boxing matches the day after Christmas...

but now that I'm older, I know better...

and actually...I shouldn't have complained about the presents...because now that I go back and look at them...I can see the thought that went into them...I'm such a bad brother...oh well...

but I am going to go see if I can find this thing today...

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I received the CD today and it's... Okay, I guess. I think that most of the groups sound a bit the same. Except from Hungry Lucy. They are playing a REALLY GOOD cover of New order. But contrary to Sebastien I like Equatronic "Every Little Counts" even though the name of the group is really bad.

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Btw, is "Atlantic Popes" (the group who is doing a cover of "Ceremony") actually the German group from the eighties called "Alphaville"? Do you remember their famous song ? "Forever Young"!!! Cos they are quoted as "Atlantic Popes (Alphaville)" in the True Faith booklet and their website is based in Germany...

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Originally posted by francois-marc loze Btw, is "Atlantic Popes" (the group who is doing a cover of "Ceremony") actually the German group from the eighties called "Alphaville"? Do you remember their famous song ? "Forever Young"!!! Cos they are quoted as "Atlantic Popes (Alphaville)" in the True Faith booklet and their website is based in Germany...

My knowledge of famous songs by German bands who change their name is obviously lacking, as I have never heard any songs called Forever Young. I heard a remix of a song called Live Forever once, and heard Paul Young do a remix/cover of that well-known Dresden song Glove Will Pair Up With Tarts, but no Alphabet Soup stuff in my JD bag !

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If I'd have to come up with a compilation of the best covers of New Order songs ever done, Hungry Lucy's Love Vigilante(s) will most probably be on the list.

The choice would still be hard though because there are several other good versions of that song done by other bands!

S.

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I have a couple questions. Question one: Why in God's name would they take a Subculture cover off and on top of that, replace it with a cover of Every Little Counts? There are only two Subculture covers out there (Sharon Next and Min Gys) and I thought it would be nice to hear a new one. I think my CD burner is getting sick of Sharon. Question two: What other tracks are on Essence?? From listening to the ones on the covers section of this site, I think that Silicon's True Faith or Doodah's True Faith and Sharon Next's Subculture might be on it. Just a guess. If you have any information on this compilation, e-mail me at timeschange_dreamattack@hotmail.com Question three: By synthpop... Is that like Kraftwerk or like NSYNC? Cuz if it's #2, then... God.

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I just got a copy of This Tribute in the mail today. I got it off of ebay. I was pretty surprised to open it up and seeing the names of our favorite webmasters!

After listening to it, I have to say, this is my favorite tribute album so far. I'm aways a sucker for some sappy synth-pop. especially the covers of Temptation by Invisible Limits and Love Vigelantes by Hungry Lucy.

Nice release from synthphony records!

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