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Why did New Order refuse to play in South America

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The news saying that New Order declared to have no interest to play in Brazil, therefore South America, shocked the huge legion of fans the band still have in the region. Is it part of a strategy to focus all promotion only in Europe and Japan? Or is it simply a money matter - it was said that the Brazilian promoter made an offer and the band said NO and then the promoter raised the offer... and then silence. Only after the promoter insist on getting NO the answer was said: "The band does not have any interest to play in Brazil in 2005". Fine...

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Whoah Nelly!

It may just be that there schedule is too tight this year, we're hoping to see them down here too but who knows? The flipside is that with another album penned in for next year, there may be more touring opportunities then.

:\pimp3:

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I don't wish to sound greedy, but I live about 2hrs. from Hooky and he's never managed to drive his wagon to play a gig anywhere near our town. And remember, we have about 4 tea shops.

What, exactly, has Brazil got to offer the band?

I thought as much.

:hat:

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i heard the offer was posted to new order from brazil & never arrived...

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Facthunt wrote: i heard the offer was posted to new order from brazil & never arrived...

I wonder why?

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Maybe they heard that I was down there for a couple months with a Joint Intel Task Force arresting mofos running drugs!!! :laugh:

That would figure... "Barney, Hooky, Steve...love ya guys but I gotta haul ya in. The DHS loves NO by the way!! "

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what you´ve been informed is just not true, Eduardo. i know first hand that they don´t come here because nobody seriously offered them to come. of course there´s money involved and a long trip by plane. you have to consider all of these elements and you´ll find the answer. i know there´s interest from a specific argentinian impresario so we´ll see. but don´t lose your hopes because there will be another album next year so we still have chances. :thumb:

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Huntsman wrote: I don't wish to sound greedy, but I live about 2hrs. from Hooky and he's never managed to drive his wagon to play a gig anywhere near our town. And remember, we have about 4 tea shops.

What, exactly, has Brazil got to offer the band?

I thought as much.

:hat:

well, Brazil must be the third or fourth country that bought more NO records in history. besides that country is much more beautiful than your 4 tea shops, not to talk about the women there! :nod:

it´s just a matter of currency. the pound beats the hell out of the Real and the Peso almost 6 to 1. period.

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Nobody in Brazil or Argentina (well, some few prople in Brazil and probably in Argentina) could afford a 50$ USD ticket to see them live actually...

From what I've heard, there is no middle class in Brazil, so you're either rich or poor, I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I've been told.

So only a few people could really afford a 50$USD ticket to see them live over there.

That is an economical tragedy... yes, but they could tour there using a local crew instead of flying their own, but they wouldn't make any money out of this, they would do it just for the fans.

Japan and Australia are better for that matter, but hey, they don't come to Canada at all and did 1 date in 2001 only, and Canada is part of the G7...

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I don't think money is an issue. Loads of big bands have been playing in Brazil in the last years and the venues were always packed despite the tickets being so expensive.

Since the Get Ready [ahem] "tour" New Order have been very selective about where they play and perhaps there's really no interest in playing in Brazil. They don't have to play here if they don't want to.

By the way Nicolas, this stuff about "there's no middle class in Brazil" is a pretty big exaggeration.

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One Brain wrote: I don't think money is an issue. Loads of big bands have been playing in Brazil in the last years and the venues were always packed despite the tickets being so expensive.

Since the Get Ready [ahem] "tour" New Order have been very selective about where they play and perhaps there's really no interest in playing in Brazil. They don't have to play here if they don't want to.

By the way Nicolas, this stuff about "there's no middle class in Brazil" is a pretty big exaggeration.

Yeah, I should check my information before putting them online, that was from my friend & his portuguese wife ;)

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I'm gonna stick up for Nic, I lived in Bazil for 2 years and I never saw middle class like we have middle class.

I know this is not the point of this thread, but really their "middle class" is not the same as ours. But great people I love them.

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I sympathise with Brazilian fans seemingly not getting any gigs this time around, but implying they're being greedy and cynically ignoring Brazil is probably a bit unfair. If I was say, Barney at this stage in the band's career I would see no need to return to the grim old days of 85-90 touring my arse off and hospitalising myself in the process. Not to mention falling out with the rest of the band in a nasty way. They seem to have a decent touring schedule coming up, they can't really be expected to play the entire planet. As DC said hopefully for the next album you'll get a festival or two.

Ally.

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Facthunt wrote: i heard the offer was posted to new order from brazil & never arrived...

Don't worry about that, I assure you it was not sent to Paraguay...

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Facthunt wrote: i heard the offer was posted to new order from brazil & never arrived...

Fcuk me, that's good by your standards ;)

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