What is the signifigance of "the Beach" like;
- B-side of Blue Monday and lyric within it too.
- Atmosphere video has a reference of a beach
Did something important happen there? I think theres one more NO or JD song that has a Beach reference too.
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What is the signifigance of "the Beach" like;
Did something important happen there? I think theres one more NO or JD song that has a Beach reference too.
Richard Latanville wrote: whats with the beach. It keeps aprearing in songs and the irony of the soundtrack.
Hardly "it keeps appearing" we're talking "mentioned in a lyric" in one song, which became the name of a dub of the exact same song (not a huge coincidence), and the name of a film soundtrack NO contributed a song towards 17 years later. Incidentally Brutal has no references to a "beach" so I'm struggling to see the coincidence other than in the soundtrack name.
Don't mean to sound cynical but this is overanalysing territory and pointless speculation.
Ally.
If you were "Standing by the ocean when I saw your face", the unspoken implication is that you are either on, or in close proximity to, a beach.
Interesting.
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Ally3000
Don't mean to sound cynical but this is overanalysing territory and pointless speculation. Ally.
Pot. Kettle. Black. ![]()
Sorry Ally, but sometimes reading your posts takes me half an hour;)
Passover also had a reference to a beach. I thought Ian was trying to combine the emptiness and desolation of an empty beach with the usual imagery we have of beaches in high summer, packed with holidaymakers. There's also the "washed up" aspect of something that has been rejected by life and even rejected by the sea......
Bernard may be trying to portray the same imagery.
And let's not forget the prophetic dream that Debbie Curtis had about walking alone on a beach, which later proved true in summer of 1980 when she and her parents went to Scotland after Ian's death.
didnt Joy division had a song with beach in a lyric: lemme dig it up but I believe its Interzone.
I guess you were right when we talked on the beach there's no room for the weak no room for the weak
Ian Curtis apparently told Debbie Curtis he had a dream where she was walking alone on a beach.
Mark it, I say mark it.
It's a red sky tonight It's a red sky tonight At the end of the road Where all futures go At the end of the road There's a soldier waiting for me He's got three miles to go Three miles to go At the end of the road At the end of the road There's blood on shore
Wasimple wrote: I guess you were right when we talked on the beach there's no room for the weak no room for the weak
- Day of the Lords
Ian Curtis apparently told Debbie Curtis he had a dream where she was walking alone on a beach.
Mark it, I say mark it.
The lyric isn't "beach", it's heat. I guess you can stretch it to say beaches are usually hot so ain't it close?
I think the only Joy Division song that has the word Beach is Passover. It's in the context of crisis and disappointment and Blue Monday has that as well.
The only significance of Beach as the song title is that it's a remix of Blue Monday and they had to come up with a name and since they had no more movie titles to use they used the word Beach because it's in the song and unlike Ian, Bernard didn't rhyme Beach with another word. But Blue Monday does use "cold" immediately after "Beach" so it's an interesting juxtaposition of Beach (normally warm, invoking images of friends and families playing together) with Cold (the word, and a metaphor for coldness between people). So is the title Beach intended to emphasize the coldness that is at the heart of Blue Monday?
twist wrote: I often hear Hooky calling Barney a beach.
no my lad,
you often hear hooky calling barney a bEACHED WHALE ,ooof thats gotta hurt.
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ShugZV© wrote: Ally3000
Don't mean to sound cynical but this is overanalysing territory and pointless speculation. Ally.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Sorry Ally, but sometimes reading your posts takes me half an hour;)
shug, it takes you half an hour to read what flavour a pack of crisps is!
[white](but i get your point)[/white]