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Most of my picks for the all-time WORST New Order singles include female backup singers and/or cameos:
World, Crystal, Subculture 87, Shame of the Nation, Jetstream, Guilt is a Useless Emotion
BUT there are a few which involve the band members or other male backup singers that actually work (with the strong exception of World in Motion):
Krafty, Weirdo
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Vince wrote: Most of my picks for the all-time WORST New Order singles include female backup singers and/or cameos:
... Crystal ...
You're kidding, aren't you?
"Most of my picks for the all-time WORST New Order singles include female backup singers and/or cameos:
World, Crystal, Subculture 87, Shame of the Nation, Jetstream, Guilt is a Useless Emotion"
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but i definitely disagree on all the non WFTSC tracks, and even then, im still mixed on jetstream and guilt, i need more time to let them sit with me, but im just a bit surprised, cuz i didnt think too many new order fans hated subculture87 and crystal
All I can say is, be thankful you haven't heard my wife singing along to Krafty in the shower!
I personally really like Subculture and LOVE Crystal and Guilt. What do you not like about Crystal?
I don't like them either, but I believe that for the first time they are wisely used on this album.
Plus, Jetstream is very flat without it, trust me.
Spotnick wrote: I don't like them either, but I believe that for the first time they are wisely used on this album.
Plus, Jetstream is very flat without it, trust me.
Spotnick, you're completely right. The 85/86 singles and 93/01 stuff had superfluous and over the top backing vocals but they've done it properly on this album.
Vince wrote: Most of my picks for the all-time WORST New Order singles include female backup singers and/or cameos:
... Crystal ...:\ohwell:
One of the better songs on Get Ready
Crystal is one of the greatest New Order tunes of all time. Perfection. I get pissed off when Dawn Zee is not there and they use a tape.
World, Crystal, Jetstream - 
Subculture, Shame of the Nation, Guilt - 
A bit harsh on Guilt but they could have been done better. I might be being a bit kind on World too.
I don't mind them really, when properly used, which is certainly the case on World and Guilt for instance, but I can easily understand why people can hate them too. It gives New Order songs a rather cheesy feel. ;)
Ronald Kirsch wrote: What about the ones that feature Backup/Guest male vocalists, like Rock The Shack.
Unlike everybody else, I like Rock the Shack. 
