Blender Magazine: Reviews Every Single New Order / JD Studio Album

Repost?

It has Eminem and 50 Cent on the cover. Should I scan it in, or has this been discussed?

It's a one paragraph review of each album ranking them from stuff you must have to stuff you can live without.

afr0puff wrote: Repost?

It has Eminem and 50 Cent on the cover. Should I scan it in, or has this been discussed?

It's a one paragraph review of each album ranking them from stuff you must have to stuff you can live without.

I don't recall seeing that before.

Found the article online:

http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=1574

That's the first I've heard of a Substance (1988).

Or is that JD?

I guess so. Very confusing presentation.

Substance 88 IS JD

you know this article is crap they Listed Brotherhood and Lowlife as "Good"

Do they review WFTSC?

I recall seeing a good 3 star review for Get Ready and they rate it as "be careful" there.

WFTSC should be in next months issue

Have you seen what they link as the "official site"? Nic will be sooooo pleased...

frank smarra wrote: Substance 88 IS JD

you know this article is crap they Listed Brotherhood and Lowlife as "Good"

Yes Low Life should be 'Essential', and Brotherhood 'Be Careful'.

Low-life should be great, if not essential.

Movement, Republic, and Get Ready are not mediocre. But that's just the humble opinion of a New Order fan.

So Stephen really sang on Movement?

Reading through all these new articles it seems concensus seems to have shifted as to NO's best album.

There was a time when PC&L was relegated to the OK category along with Brotherhood, while LL and Technique were championed by all.

Some of us always considered PC&L to be at the peak of the band's catalogue and now more seem to be in agreement. Don't know if it's a different generation of critics or the dating of other material but it's interesting.

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I think it has to do with how the tech sounds on LL and Technique have dated more than the others.

But, half of Technique has very little keyboards, which is funny cause so many folks consider it a dance record (which it is) but half the songs are dancy without being tech...

And Lowlife certainly has some cheesy sounding keyboards for 2005. I mean, I love them, and I love Lowlife, my personal favorite, but I can understand why some folks nowadays would hear it and think it sounds 'dated'. Mainly the second side. Subculture was a bit cheese even in 1985! But, hey, I think those keyboards sound great on a dance floor, even in 2005...

Hell, in another 10 years the sounds on LL and Technique will be the cool hip thing again and they will be the faves once more!

When people put PC&L on a pedestal, are they thinking about the endless bore of We All Stand and the knobtweaking drek of Ultraviolence and Ecstacy. Sure, as a new order fanatic, I would rather hear those 3 tunes over anything else by another band, BUT, I think other songs on PC&L are so good that they let us forget those 3....

So, my longwinded question comes to this: Is PC&L, with 'only' 5 great songs, really their best LP??? (seems to me that Lowlife, Technique, and even Republic, can at LEAST match that number....)

(edit: I am of course referring to the standard non-Blue Monday version of PC&L, as it was released in 1983 and should be considered...)