Meet New Order's 5th member....

Priceless...

Spotnick wrote: There is one thing I wasn't aware and I learned while being there.

Bernard's chatting is written on the autocue as well !!!

You are kidding?

The Man Up North wrote: Hey, there's a spelling mistake in Crystal's lyrics!!!!!

No wonder why there was an apostrophe controversy lately!

Ah, but if they replaced "your" with "you're" it would push words onto the next line and then things would get all messed up!

Spotnick wrote:

oldmonkey wrote:

Spotnick wrote: There is one thing I wasn't aware and I learned while being there.

Bernard's chatting is written on the autocue as well !!!

You are kidding?

No, I'm serious... the chat between 2 of the 3 first songs was written on the autocue... I don't remember what it was, but it was there.... I was surprised when I saw it...

Couldn't you insert in the thing something embarassing like "You all forgot Rudolf Hess" or "Ok, this is The Perfect Kiss"?

What think is hilarious is "Melodica/Phil" & "Long Bass Solo" Its as if they're going to forget what to play, and when to play it. Definently a fifth member.

I wonder does the Autocue have the Taking drugs with me line on it for TF....

That's hysterical that he has the chatting on there, too. I wonder if he writes all his own jokes?

Priceless!

Whats funny is when he strayed from his pal Oto during Blue Monday to work the machinary and started singing way too early. One of the roadies off on the side was yelling "NOT YET!!!"

That's why Otto Q. has "Long Bass solo"-- so he knows where they are in the song.

yeah i noticed that as well, and depending on the song, he would look at one or the other

Maybe Bernard just has a memory problem. If you listen to JD live, most of the arrangement straying is on Bernard's guitar. From what I've gathered from interviews, he's become real perfectionist and maybe at this stage in the game the autocue is where it's at. No big deal; it's pretty amusing and endearing in a way.

Spotnick wrote: There is one thing I wasn't aware and I learned while being there.

Bernard's chatting is written on the autocue as well !!!

Are you actually saying his 'ad lib' lines are typed out word-for-word on the thing? Unbelievable.

Or just eg. "Twisted ankle gag"?

Perhaps Barney's memory is more munted than we perceived.

:\pimp3:

:D

Well, if the autocue is even only in small part responsible for the vast improvement in the quality of their live gigs (And Barney's mood) since around 1998, then i will take it anyday!!!

Robert Roy wrote: Well, if the autocue is even only in small part responsible for the vast improvement in the quality of their live gigs (And Barney's mood) since around 1998, then i will take it anyday!!!

hahah awesome and it wasn't just me who saw the typo in Crystal.

Let that be a lesson to anyone who thinks Ecstacy washed down with Pernod night on night for twenty years is a good idea!

oldmonkey wrote: Let that be a lesson to anyone who thinks Ecstacy washed down with Pernod night on night for twenty years is a good idea!

If the memory is the only thing that is affected - then it may be worth it

Another pic of Oto Q!

Im pissing myself over hear. I wish i was up that close to see it. Poor old man bernard. At least he can drive it 60mph per hour. I bet Barney needs viagra.

jonathan

God bless New order there one of the only bands that can make this jaded 28yr old dance so much. I posted before that i wish they dropped true faith. I was so wrong. I wish they played more songs maybe 22 songs. All their fucking dance tracks.

Is a song really a song if it is not performed live. Whats the use of releasing new material if is buried underneath the hits. My guess is after jetstream the title track will be the next single. There were 3 songs played off the new album.

I guess my point is that i believe that songs needs to be consumated by playing at gigs. Do they really exist if they are not?

I hope they ditch love vig. and run wild next time.

Last random rant: I must confess no new order show is complete without self-indulgence. Did anybody else have a little fun in the bathroom.

I hate when venues have bathroom attendants. I hate the idea of somebody being subserviant to myself. I made sure to take a slice of gum, and give him of george washington's. I waited 2 hrs to pee at the show because i just couldnt leave during new order.

jonathan szwajkos wrote: I bet Barney needs viagra.

Spotnick wrote: Bernard's chatting is written on the autocue as well !!!

I believe it's true but could someone please explain how the hell he knew it was gonna rain on that day at Finsbury cause he just kept repeating "this fooking rain"?

Ms. kiddo, this thread is making me laugh so much. So i guess new order brings me joy, dance, and laughter. What else could I ask for.

Same here. RIDE SURFBOARD? LOL!

i wonder if manchester- "home of the cunts, excuse my dry british sense" was on autocue.

He had a whole bit about how he hurt his leg surfing in cali and hand an encounter with sharks

But i suppose he might of had a surfboard dance move.

His dancing is so silly, i love it. I found myself being barney's mirror while dancing. Interpol wouldn't be caught dead dancing like that.

I could be wrong but did i see barney drinking a martini on stage? He must have all the sex and the city dvd's.

facseven wrote: Another pic of Oto Q!

OK, you can laugh at me, but damn I'm gonna ask anyway: IS THAT TRUE?

WenOrder wrote: well, i did get the same shot from my angle.

post of the year awards, watch out!

Holy Shit Wen-

That's FUNNY!:D :D :D :D

lmao omg, dude, this thread, has seriously won the thread of the year, no doubt about it.

this is all too funny :) and to think, i thought those were monitors :/ how often does he use those things? surely, its a guide, and nothing more. after playing similar setlists, i'd hope he'd remember most of the lyrics.

As a suggestion, call the guy "Otto", 2 t's. The correct writing.

I think it's time to quit when Barney starts to sing the words "bass solo" and "Melodica/Phil"...

Nice picture Wenorder! I thought I was the only one who seen it.

WenOrder wrote: well, i did get the same shot from my angle.

Please say that you're kidding and did that with Photoshop. Otherwise I tend to believe it...

facseven wrote: Another pic of Oto Q!

I was just going to ask if the whoops where on the autocue as well Poor old Bernard... I just can see him wondering "what can I say funny between each song?" and then writing stuff on the thing because he knows he wouldn't ever remember. It must be a bit sad for him, maybe that's one of the reasons he doesn't completely enjoy touring. It's clear he still enjoys their best performances, but every time he prepares for a gig he just has to tell himself it was a bit stupid to fuck up his memory with drugs. Of course he regrets it, of course it wasn't worth it. Memory is everything, memory is our essence, our soul, the engine of our brain. If I couldn't remember my best experiences I'd fell like being dead, or having never lived...

New Order on tour 2015

Hooky: next week it's Glastonbury

Bernard: oh no, not fookin Germany again! Since when has Jack joined the band?

Hooky: that's Phil, you stupid cunt!

Bernard: oh yeah, the new guitarist, looks like your son though. Alright, let's do this Glassberry show, but let's spice up the set list: what do you think of replacing that silly old song... what's the title... oh yeah: How Does It Feel, with You're Much Too Young?

I'm outraged to hear they're leaving the word gullible out of the next revision of the Oxford English Dictionary.

Why don't they leave our language alone?

WenOrder wrote: What is photoshop? is that a store?

Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

facseven wrote: Another pic of Oto Q!

I was just going to ask if the whoops where on the autocue as well Poor old Bernard... I just can see him wondering "what can I say funny between each song?" and then writing stuff on the thing because he knows he wouldn't ever remember. It must be a bit sad for him, maybe that's one of the reasons he doesn't completely enjoy touring. It's clear he still enjoys their best performances, but every time he prepares for a gig he just has to tell himself it was a bit stupid to fuck up his memory with drugs. Of course he regrets it, of course it wasn't worth it. Memory is everything, memory is our essence, our soul, the engine of our brain. If I couldn't remember my best experiences I'd fell like being dead, or having never lived...

Are you talking about Barney or Ozzy?

Right, what we need to do is slip someone a few quid to program it to announce the next song as Age of Consent, then Hooky can play the bassline and it will start, they won't back out even if they make a pigs ear of it! They could even insert the lyrics for him!

Or "What Do You Want From Me"?

BIGINOIL wrote: I'm outraged to hear they're leaving the word gullible out of the next revision of the Oxford English Dictionary. Why don't they leave our language alone?

*Do you think I'm gullible? Well, I am, but actually I thought Nic was joking. After he kept on confirming the story I started to think it might be true (though not still entirely convinced, but I trust him and I wouldn't find so unbelievable Bernard wants a reminder of the funniest things to say, after all his speech has become a part of the show). So my comments are made just choosing the option to believe him, but it's not been easy, gotta take some risk...

Just makes sense, so I wasn't so gullible when deciding to believe you... ;)

WenOrder wrote: gul·li·ble P Pronunciation Key (gl-bl) adj. Easily deceived or duped.

Oh, it's back!

Now I believe Nic (though I know Photoshop when I see it). Here's Razorlight's set list from Coachella:

See the notes to remind Bjorn what to talk about between songs?

Colin

We can believe Nick, but what about Michael? Of course I still don't believe in the whoops and kicks.

No - 100% Photoshop, but well executed.

It's between the party store and the butcher's shop.

Nicely spotted! You'd barely recognize their version though - different words, different rhythm and a different tune...

Colin

CCRGMac wrote: Now I believe Nic (though I know Photoshop when I see it). Here's Razorlight's set list from Coachella: See the notes to remind Bjorn what to talk about between songs?

* I don't think Bjorn is excused as Barney, he's not near 50! They could form a new duet, after Electronic, here's... ... Barn'n'Bjorn! ;)

Server Error in "/" Application wrote: We can believe Nick, but what about Michael? Of course I still don't believe in the whoops and kicks.

*My God, Server, of course I knew that was a joke!!! My post was a laugh to the Photoshop image (which of fookin course I never believed) and a comment to Nic's post (which I half believed). Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!!

Server Error in "/" Application wrote:

Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!!

Of course... He's a perfectionist - you remember?

In all fairness to Bernard, he's got to get up in front of a crowd and "entertain" them for the entire set.

I'm a law student, which sometimes entails speaking to an audience (judges). I prepare notes with bulleted talking points to remind me of the points I want to make. If I didn't do that, I'd forget half the stuff I want to say.

(On the other hand, considering Bernard and I are the same age, maybe it is age... )

That's all the "notes" on the autocue are doing-- reminding Bernard of where they are in the set, what he wants to say, etc.

As for the lyrics...

Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Can you imagine Barney PLANNING his whoops???!!

Rehearsal scene:

(bass, guitar, drums come to a grinding halt...)

Barney: I don't know, guys, it's missing something...

Peter: What's missing?

(Ghost of Tony Wilson: "A certain je ne sais quoi")

Barney: I don't know what...

(Peter and Stephen exchange glances)

Barney: What do you think if I put in a "whoop" right at this point, where Peter slings his bass way down low...?

Peter: W...

Barney: Fine, its agreed then....

...[and so Bernard clicks the "Save" icon on the computer programming the autocue updating the lyrics with the whoop]

Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...

Spotnick wrote: Maybe the whoops are actually sampled :p

*You mean he MIMES his whoops???!!

Bere wrote: Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...

The first whoops where indeed born in the early days, but they were quite different from the euphoric whoops of today. Back at the time they were furious "whoooooooooop!"s, but also "whoooooaaargh!"s and other variations, they can be heard in many early live performances (EGG, In A Lonely Place, many others) and were a mix of post punk attitude, loads of drugs, frustration, loads of alcohol, confrontational blank stares and much more loads of drugs. I loved the proto-whoops... then they gradually evolved with the music of the band, into these contemporary whoops. I still like them. A "barking" extreme variation of the whoop ("whoof whoof") can be seen on the brand new DVD release by LTM, Umbrellas In The Sun, where we have New Order's best performance ever, Everything's Gone Green at the Ancienne Belgique in Brussels. Available at http://www.sisterray.co.uk, just ordered mine. Hey, maybe we should start a "Whoopology" forum from which develop a "Whoopology" section of the site... ;)

I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

At the NY show, as I was singing along, I found myself whooping at random points where I found it appropriate. At times, Barney and I ended up whooping at the same time! Whoop!

Delilah wrote: "I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential"

*Yeah, those were exciting days, they were just experimenting with sequencers AND whoops, they were evolving through an innovative direction... Pleased to meet you, it seems you'll do wonders on the Whoopology forum! ;) And well done to Church too! (gonna whoop like you in Turin)

delilah wrote: I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

Snowball-induced, allegedly!

oldmonkey wrote:

delilah wrote: I thought the whoop was born in autumn 81 and made its first appearance on EGG...the bit towards the end of EGG sounds like a bit of experimental whooping, like Bernard was just beginning to discover its potential

Snowball-induced, allegedly!

I thought that was the Temptation whoop...

Mick Aneworderfan wrote:

Bere wrote: Perhaps the first "Whoop" was born when Barney hurt his foot onstage for the first time (back in 1980something). He saw that people liked it and didn't recognize that it was a scream in pain - so he adapted it for future gigs...

The first whoops where indeed born in the early days, but they were quite different from the euphoric whoops of today. Back at the time they were furious "whoooooooooop!"s, but also "whoooooaaargh!"s and other variations, they can be heard in many early live performances (EGG, In A Lonely Place, many others) and were a mix of post punk attitude, loads of drugs, frustration, loads of alcohol, confrontational blank stares and much more loads of drugs. I loved the proto-whoops... then they gradually evolved with the music of the band, into these contemporary whoops. I still like them. A "barking" extreme variation of the whoop ("whoof whoof") can be seen on the brand new DVD release by LTM, Umbrellas In The Sun, where we have New Order's best performance ever, Everything's Gone Green at the Ancienne Belgique in Brussels. Available at http://www.sisterray.co.uk, just ordered mine. Hey, maybe we should start a "Whoopology" forum from which develop a "Whoopology" section of the site... ;)

Liking your analysis...I always thought the whoop was an alternative/industrial/post-punk satire on 80s Thatcherism, but perhaps I am talking out of my arse

i laughed when the shot on the jumbotrons at Coachella showed the prompters as well!

That's a great pic, Mike.

For those who haven't been, Coachella is in a beautiful location - check out the skyline. Looks like NO got the sunset spot, like the Pixies last year.