5 Overrated New Order Songs
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This thread is a psy-trick... What someone rates highly someone else hates, therefore it's our least favourite NO songs. There's probably someway of deciding on what is a highly rated song, but I'm buggered if I know what it is (apart from sales success; not a good barometer for NO).
Anyway, enough analytical waffle>
State of the nation is my least favorite... ;)
I think a lot of people would include songs that they initially liked, but after hearing it 1000 times over the last 10-15 yrs went off it. Must admit if songs like Crystal and Temptation are regarded as overrated then I wonder what other NO offerings are regarded as up to scratch!!!
It seems that some confuse overrated with less favorite songs. Not an easy one, as, if you try to remain logical you can like songs that you may still find overrated.
I would go with Guilty Partner (though I didn't think it was rated so high), Paradise. In general, there's a lot of songs that I find very good and even enjoy much but that, because of some emotional content, are maybe a bit, just a bit, overrated (Everyone Everywhere, Dream Attack, Turn, 1963...)
A bit underrated in my opinion : SubCulture (just watched the PFOD vid and it really sounded amazing)
Less overrated should be Age of Consent, of course as it will never be rated high enough, no matter what.
i agree with that its about personal taste and mood etc. etc. but i'm really pissed off cause i saw in two threads Temptation as an overrated song. ARE YOU SERIOUS??? please go to a beach and relax
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
szwajkos technique wrote: This is was very difficult for me to come up with, and i dont think its been done before.
Turn round & round sub culture love vig special
Er, I would not say that any of these are particularly overrated. I have never heard of Sub-culture being raved about or put on a pedestal. The same goes for Round & round and Special which have barely been mentioned on this board compared to other candidates. 
Turn is genuinely a good song and so not overrated as is Love Vigilantes IMO. If you'd heard LV live at any of the 2005 dates you'd know why, I don't think there is a single NO fan that was disappointed to hear that song dusted off for the gigs. My overrated five would be:
60 Miles an Hour - Pish choice for a single + played to death live in 2001-02. Close Range - Totally forgettable, how does it go again? Jetstream - Not a bad song but too throwaway and lite. Slow Jam - Pish. Dracula's Castle - Not an awful track but a bit 'will this do?'
I do recall the last two having their own "appreciation society" on Digital Republic, i.e. the general consensus is they're shite, but two or three individuals love them enough to start a thread about them in a desperate attempt to convince us they're actually good. (They failed 
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Ally.
This is kind of what I was getting at; How do you define over (or indeed under) rated?
We are voting for perceptions here, or we are voting for our own personal least favourites.
You could only define a 'rating' by sales or aggregate viewpoints. Sales is no good for judging NO songs and the aggregate views of NOOLers isn't definitive - only a teeny weeny percentage of the total NO fan base come here and write an opinion.
i.e. I love 60 MPH and so do quite a few others, how many NO fans love it in total is unknown...
Blue Monday Shellshock Someone Like You Fine Time (although Technique is phenomenal, you naysayers are crazy) Confusion 87 (Confusion 83 rocks!)
craigy wrote: This is kind of what I was getting at; How do you define over (or indeed under) rated?
Pretty simply, a song that is spoken about often by the fans or a regular feature in NO's best of/setlists can qualify as 'overrated'. Candidates would be True Faith, Regret, Turn (had it's 'we want it as a single' campaign), Low-life, Technique or even Everything's Gone Green of late. Underrated would be the non-single album tracks never mentioned from each album like Sub-culture, Everyone Everywhere, Way of life etc. to name an obscure few.
I agree that there is probably only a small percentage of the entire NO fanbase that posts here but I don't think this thread is meant to be accurate to an exact count. I do often think it's important that fans who don't use NOOL either by choice or because they are unaware of its existence are just as important as all the members here, goes without saying really 
Sorry to muddy the waters, but I quite like Close Range and Slow Jam as well; both tracks that have been given a good panning by many, so they could be underrated as well....:D
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
have to say that both are still great records that sound as good to me today as the days that i first heard them.
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
Cheer up son.....It's just an opinion!
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
Cheer up son.....It's just an opinion!
:) :) :) :) :) :)
How's that?
Temptation Everything's Gone Green Turn Love Vigilantes Run
I get flack for not liking Temptation, its okay, but I have never really enjoyed it THAT much, and the fact that I hear it all the time makes me resent it.
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
Cheer up son.....It's just an opinion!
:) :) :) :) :) :)
How's that?
Much better!
I forgot to add crystal to the list, it just always hurt my ears and head.
Jetstream is overrated by the band(probably barney), but not their legion.
Jetstream is one of my favs on the new one.
I was really disappointed that love vig. was the they choose to dust off. So much more to chose from.
definitely run wild- its not that i hate it but it smells like bobby gillespie to me. lot of other people seem to like it though, and i admit the lyrics are mostly nice. Don't know what it is- the vocal style maybe, a bit too strong. can only think of one at the moment.
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote:
Patrick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Patrick wrote:
GlasVegas wrote: Low Life.
Technique.
Agreed.
:D
Yer arse! Not suggesting Lowlife's a bad album, however...
Technique = TIMELESS. Sounds as fresh and relevant today as it did 16 years ago
Low Life = DATED. Cheesy synth stabs ahoy, very much a product of it's time.
Where da fuk is joe??? Tell him to stop posting that low life is shit...It's their best album by far.
((((e))))
Waiting For The Sirens' Call is pretty much the only one everyone on here seems to love, but I can't get into. I think it and Krafty are the weakest tracks on the new album.
Oh yeah, let me add As It Is When It Was. It bores me to tears.
AND, last but not least, the most overrated New Order track ever: Lonesome Tonight. That's just brutal.
