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Who's Joe

got all the ingredients.

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LE Roberts wrote: Turn - my #3 favorite of all-time.

My #1.

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wftsc would be a contender but if talking TRUELY MADLY GREAT, i suppose crystal.before that would be dream attack

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yes yes Here to Stay is a great song...

but the latest is I Told You So... I'm sure a lot of you will disagree, but spend some time with it and try to appreciate its genius. so much cool shit goes on and it's still catchy as hell.

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Chuckles wrote: yes yes Here to Stay is a great song...

but the latest is I Told You So... I'm sure a lot of you will disagree, but spend some time with it and try to appreciate its genius. so much cool shit goes on and it's still catchy as hell.

It's nice to see someone saying something positive about this one.

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Patrick wrote:

Chuckles wrote: yes yes Here to Stay is a great song...

but the latest is I Told You So... I'm sure a lot of you will disagree, but spend some time with it and try to appreciate its genius. so much cool shit goes on and it's still catchy as hell.

It's nice to see someone saying something positive about this one.

i feel the same way. Its been really underlooked. Its more experimental then anything new order has done lately.

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I don't think anybody has mentioned Behind Closed Doors yet :confused: It's better than anything off WFTSC or GR. Here to Stay was refreshing after the appalling Get Ready mess, but it is only really average; in fact it couldn't compete even with the weakest tracks off Substance...

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Hmmmm...

Here To Stay or Shame of the Nation? Primitive Notion vs Subculture?

I have to say that i wholeheartedly disagree

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Crystal. No doubt.

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bansheeman wrote: if talking TRUELY MADLY GREAT, i suppose crystal.before that would be dream attack

Exactly what I think.

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Uncle Liam wrote: Hmmmm...

Here To Stay or Shame of the Nation? Primitive Notion vs Subculture?

To clarify I meant to say Substance Disc 1. I think of disc 2 as a bonus addition.

I accept Primitive Notion is one of the stronger tracks on GR. While I have never heard a favourable version of Sub-Culture (the Low-Life mix is even worse) I think it is a better song than Primitive Notion. Sub-Culture has a musical grandeaur about it that is blended with sexual frustration and sleaze, which makes a rare amalgam.

Primitive Notion is by contrast quite a yawn... :sleep:

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if WFTSC gets brilliant remix work done, it has the potential to be way up there in the grandios new order remix tradition...easily

my fingers are SOOOO crossed

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Last life-changing truly great track? Age Of Consent.

Good recent tracks though - Someone Like You, Crystal, Here To Stay, Who's Joe, WFTSC :thumb:

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Actually, scrub that - Sunrise, Elegia and the Saville soundtrack were (still are) brilliant... :bow2:

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Since the band got back together, they've produced Here to Stay, Crystal, Waiting for the Sirens Call and Turn. Add to that, Primitive Notion, Someone Like You, Behind Closed Doors, Krafty, Who's Joe.... finished? Like fuck.

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One song, its so hard to chose on, but Crystal, Here To Stay and Close Range. rock the house

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Here to stay was great at the times we had to wait for a new album. Now the we have it, I do think WFTSC is a powerful song,their best last song, with Jetstream not far behind.

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Dracula's Castle cause its after WFTSC into the album

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:music: Crystal

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In reverse chronological order: -Waiting For The Sirens' Call -Guilt Is A Useless Emotion (Mac Quayle Vocal Mix) -Here To Stay -Crystal

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Since Technique (i.e in the past 16 years), IMHO, New Order have only recorded three truly great (much over-used word, that) songs:

  • Regret (1993)
  • Here To Stay (2002)
  • WFTSC (2005)

Not very prolific, even if these three are majestic beyond mere words.

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last truly great songs:

crystal and before that regret. WFTSC is not as good as these two songs (it's personal of course). The first two song are real neck-hair-raiser imo.

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I don't think we'll really know just how good WFTSC is until a few years have passed. What seems like a good track now will seem a classic when we look back in 5 years. I'm sure this will be the case for 4 or 5 tracks on WFTSC, including the title track. Krafty is another Regret to me. And I think we've yet to hear the 'last' great New Order song. It'll be on the next album.

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georgo konstantinidis wrote: Dracula's Castle cause its after WFTSC into the album

Didn't get it - Is it because DC is a good one or because WFTSC is?

:scratch:

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1 Turn 2 Waiting For The Sirens Call 3 Krafty 4 Run Wild 5 Slow Jam 6 Turn My Way 7 Crystal 8 Regret 9 Young Offender 10 All The Way

:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

:bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2:

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Yeah, Sirens or Krafty for me but if i had to narrow it down to one i'd go for sirens (sheer class) :thumb:

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SLOW JAM? :nuts:

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On record, the title track from WFTSC, but not sure it's worked live. In fact, Krafty seems to work much better in the live environment than I'd expected.

Last true classic for me was Crystal. Before that Regret. Then I'd probably have to go back to the original BLT for the hairs to stand up the back of me neck. Did love Don't Do It during the Technique era but it ain't been done live so doesn't get played by me a great deal of the time.

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Turn

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