Download Shug's Glastonbury DVD via Bittorrent

well, this is a great idea nic, however, hosting a tracker could put you in deep trouble with the powers that be. what about using a public tracker like "the pirate bay"?

still, I'm not complaining, this could be a good way of sharing music and video between fans, are you going to allow us to use the tracker for posting new order related torrents on here? and if so, what are the boundaries (nothing thats availible commercially is allowed?!?!)

thanks

matt

p.s.whens the next podcast? and are you going to distribute that using bittorrent also?

I don't get higher than 35kb/s (1 day and 7 hours loading time )

I can't download it because I can't read DVD on my computer (unless the file is actually a WMV or something), also I hope I'll get it anyway sooner or later, but it's a great experiment. Anyway torrents are just a way to distribute files, just like HTTP, so there's no difference from making available a file in one way or the other. Actually, the only difference is that torrents are much more effective, so this is good for the server and the users.

seems to be working fine... cheers nic!

JJ - Is that an Alegro with a bass bin in it?

Download works fine BTW

Its working great Spotnick, thanks for the media! Hopefully we can see more of this in the future. :)

OK I give in, I'm going to join the Bit Torrent cult.

I just download bit torrent from www.bittorrent.com and within a couple minutes I'm downloading Glastonbury. So far so good!

Right now it says 3 days so I'm failing to see how this is faster? But I guess when more people start downloading this it will get faster?

anybody know any good bit torrent sites for new order recordings?

Dave Algeo wrote: JJ - Is that an Alegro with a bass bin in it?

yeah man, that's my bro's alegro with a 12" subbie in the back. we spent one saturday afternoon kitting that puppy out... tweeters in the dash, amps under the seats, new speakers in the doors & parcel tray... u can hear us coming down the road 1km away!

JJ wrote:

Dave Algeo wrote: JJ - Is that an Alegro with a bass bin in it?

yeah man, that's my bro's alegro with a 12" subbie in the back. we spent one saturday afternoon kitting that puppy out... tweeters in the dash, amps under the seats, new speakers in the doors & parcel tray... u can hear us coming down the road 1km away!

Jesus, the car must weight double now!

I had an Alegro deluxe many years ago. It broke down when I was going to play footy one day so we pushed it in the river Mersey. Probably lasted 20 seconds before it rusted away!

Keep yer eyes open for Mr Jarvis during LV - doing a spot of whistling, by the look of it!

Turn Jim wrote: Right now it says 3 days so I'm failing to see how this is faster? But I guess when more people start downloading this it will get faster?

*It's not faster, it's just more effective. It has an excellent resume feature, as long as there's one peer uploading it doesn't matter how long it takes and how many times you have to resume, you know you'll get the file, and you have also the pleasure of uploading yourself even before the file is complete, helping others getting the file. For an excellent and light program try also ABC

I realized you cant go faster then your provider allows. (Maybe I should pay the extra bucks and get a faster connection?) But Bit Torrent is still cool because its more stable, there are no disconnects. And if it allows me to help out on the downloading, then I'm all for it.

Not read the whole thread, but.... Excellent a nool tracker's a much better idea then public tracker. For a good reason. If we track gigs here, everyone who downloads them will have the studio versions of the contained songs, meaning they hold a license to the published material. Since there is no mechanical copyright in live bootlegs, the publishing license is all you need :) (unless the band don't like bootleggers then they get into the unauthorized recording excuse).

Make sure only persons logged into the forums can use the tracker, otherwise you could get in trouble ( the RIAA shut down and then don't even bother with the questions later...they've killed more than one legal site before, that's why purelivegigs wants evidence that you;re allowed to share $BAND's gigs) And if anyone reposts these to pirate bay or mininova, take them out and shoot them. this could be SUCH a good way to trade live shows, instead of using all those ( come back later we're full) tracker sites, or the generous folks here making CD's for people.

this is Good Thing, we must be thankful and careful.

For whoever has no DVD drive....if it's an ISO, mount it with alcohol or something and tell powerdvd or whatever to use the virtual drive ( same should work if it's a bunch of video-ts and vob files) This is certainly how I watch downloaded dvd iso's in linux, and I've done it in windows too, although windows media players are generally far stroppier about their source cos of fucking DRM and DCSS and all that crap.....remember that if I buy a DVD and watch it in Linux, i commit the same crime as if I downloaded it....not a terrific incentive to buy movies is it.

Unles it give you specific trouble.....use azureus, it's by far the best, many others have stats trouble and other issues (including reduced download speeds sometimes). Either Azureus or just the real original bittorrent (which I still use now and then, cos I can run it in text mode)

Torrent numbers seem to be zipping away for me!!!

Thanks guys for sharing Adrian

What type of file is the video? mpg? avi? wmv?

Just curious before I start the download.

I'm back on it, my external hard drive had enough late last night and died on me. Somehow I managed to upload more than I downloaded

Cheers Shug and Nic! I want to spot my brother enjoying himself in the crowd and then remind him how he used to slag the Order off when we was kids.

By the way I can recommend Azureus too!

Re: uploading more than you downloaded. That's a good thing, it'll save you seeding so long when you're done. I know some of you are wide eyed innocents on this, so I've disabled rant mode for now :) Torrenting only works (in general, but particularly in NOOLs case, where it's being used as a sustitute for locally hosting 100's of downloads of a huge file) if you upload at least what you download, and if everyone adds even 1-2% more than that, tis sweet download heaven.

The E-donkey leeching bastard approach will get you nowhere. Mind you, for NO gigs, I'm probably the worst fooker on this thread, I always find them when there's plenty of seeds and no other downloaders for weeks. my ratio on dimeadozen's hovering about .6, which is most poor.

Still, I doubt anyone here would leech, just thought I should mention that upping more than downing is normal...remember you may only have 1/3 of the file, but 8 people may want that 1/3.

Word to the wise...do not saturate your outbound connection, it will slow down your downloads like crazy, and destabilize the uploads. Best thing to do is adjust the outbound limiter in azureus until the stats graph for upload is perfectly flat....the exact speed needed varies from day to day depending on how many torrents are running and what they're doing.

does anyone know the difference between this dvd and the current glastonbury 05 on dimeadozen? the dimeadozen file size is much smaller. are there extras on this one?

Patrick Jackson wrote: does anyone know the difference between this dvd and the current glastonbury 05 on dimeadozen? the dimeadozen file size is much smaller. are there extras on this one?

Haven't downloaded the DimeaDozen version, but this one has the ending of "Regret" that the DAD version doesn't seem to have (at least according to its setlist).

Good to see this torrented at NOOL, I received the DVD earlier this week so I won't be needing to download it but hopefully more torrents will be put up here one day.

You COULd copy it to your HD and help seed :)

Steve Campbell wrote: You COULd copy it to your HD and help seed :)

Doh, indeed! ;)

Steve Campbell wrote: Word to the wise...do not saturate your outbound connection, it will slow down your downloads like crazy, and destabilize the uploads. Best thing to do is adjust the outbound limiter in azureus until the stats graph for upload is perfectly flat....the exact speed needed varies from day to day depending on how many torrents are running and what they're doing.

Which graph and where's the Outbound limiter setting....been looking but can't find?

(getting a sudden creeping feeling the win32 client may differ from mine)....

tools menu>statistics> then click on the Activity tab. Easiest way to limit is just to right click the up or download limits in the bottom right hand corner.

Note, I have seen some weird shit if you use the download limiter....once I set it quite low on a busy torrent....about an hour later the machine started swapping something HUGE around and being very odd. I noticed that azureus was now using 92% of my physical ram ( I really need to sit my penguin down and discuss what consitutes a system critical process and what consitutes something that can be swapped out....I'm fond of things like the desktop being in ram :)....anyway it only did this once). I also noticed my connection was still just as activee as before I'd limited it.I had a thought and set the download limiter back to unlimited.....WHAM!!! my download speed went to like 12MB/sec. Seems azurues far from sending choke packets back to peers to reduce download speeds, was just pretending, and all the time GULPLING data down and shoving it into a disk buffer like a bloody squirell with his cheeks full of berries.

Anyway, watch out for it.

And TRY to open the ports it wants....you can still connect, with them closed, but not to any other user who also has them closed.

Shug wrote: Has any poor bugger managed to download it yet?

I would like to see some reviews - and you must call the last song World In Fucking Motion.....or more projects like this will not be forthcoming

Yeah I've downloaded it; really I can't express my gratitude enough for this project. Thanks Shug and all concerned.

My only beef, and this is going to sound really petty, is that it's not all in widescreen. Does not spoil the enjoyment much but just a point to note.

Spotnick wrote: since my client has uploaded now almost 6 gb, I hope somebody out there finished it.

Yeah I've got it; I'll leave it seeding hopefully that'll help the speed for others. Just one point: Nero bitched at me that the VTS_01_0.BUP is not present on the download. Not something which is really needed but thought worth mentioning.

Question about download speeds what is the average download speed? Because I'm averaging only 4 kb/s to 12 kb/s downloading speed. It says 2 days if I'm lucky but I seen it go as long as 12 days. My upload gets to 29 kb/s but download is at 10kb/s at the moment? So my question is, is this normal? I moved my upload speed to only 6 kb/s and it makes no difference, my download wont improve? Do people have there upload turned on? Or are people taking advantage and not sharring? If it doesnt impove by tomorrow and turning my upload down to the lowwest setting of 4kb/s unless somebody can explain to me why It's so low? I seen it go as high as 25 kb/s so I know it can?

maybe you turned it down TOO far, sometimes what comes down is very closely related to what goes up. I prolly shoulda said "highest value that gives a flat line, or 1-2k under that".

FWIW, I'm only getting the same down speed as you. Odd since I assume one of the seeds is still NOOL. C'mon seeders, get sharin :)

I knew they were summat to do with indexing titles, but I checked before raving. Turns out they are just a backup copy of the .IFO . That would explain some players, the gung-ho ones, playing it, and other severely anal players are balking on it for no good reason.

Suppose the easiest answer is just to make a copy of the relevent IFO and rename it accordingly. BUT, do check a couple of real dvds to check the 2 are always the same before doing it. ( not that you'll cause any trouble if it's wrong, unless you waste a disc.)

Always try to play DVD's off the HD first, saves making a coaster. I did mention the use of alcohol or demontools to mount a dvd iso to create a virtual dvd player.....but in windows I am afraid I cannot tell you how to convince a mendia player that a certain directory IS a DVD....although I know SOME players will play vobs.....it's not the same as emulating the disc. for me it's just mplayer dvd://oi/this/folder/here

most windows programs DO accept commandline parameters, they just pretend they're all high and mighty, but I really doubt the same approach would work.

Steve Campbell wrote:

Suppose the easiest answer is just to make a copy of the relevent IFO and rename it accordingly.

I did this with the files downloaded via bittorrent and Nero stopped complaining and the DVD plays fine on my PC and DVD player. So think that solves it. Thanks for the tip.

Y'know, apart from the end of Regret, I don't think I need to be downloading this. It only just o0ccurred to me that's it's basically the TV footage I have, albeit stuck together right.

Don't think I'll bother with the rest of it. But I'll seed the little I have for a while for the good of all.

BTW, I wonder about posting full DVD's.....is it STILL that hard to make one in windows that a .avi would ruin everyone's day? I assume that's the reason for this (and most of the other full dvd's one sees online), I know that before I learned the mysteries of transcode in Linux that handling mpeg-avi-mpeg-dvd type transfers was a real pain and very hit and miss, especially since have the apps available are snake oil. I just thought it had improved a lot....mainly cos mates have stopped ringing me to ask how to do it (of course maybe they're just sick of hearing the answer "go to www.gentoo.org and click on download....." :D ) It's not even like you can zip a DVD cos a lossless compression like zip or rar is not going to squeeze any more out of it than the lossy mpeg compression already got.

thanks to shugs and spotnik for putting this dvd up for download.using bittorent is a great idea and fits with the ethics of this site for sharing(thats my opinion obviously).if there are to be more files to be uploaded with bittorent could they be compressed with a program called "RAT DVD".You can download it from www.videohelp.com. This briliant program will shrink a dvd down to less than 1 gig if needed ,it keeps all the menus and isplayed on windows media player.It will also allow the file to be burned to a proper dvd with nero etc...plus this will save spotnik,s bandwidth as he will only have to upload a smaller file..and we all will download a smaller file....thanx again.....phil

yes but mac and linux owners get static no doubt :)

Thanks, after 4 day od download, it's work. But What happend with the sound... very low volume??? Next time make it loud...

But great souvenir after all

Thank you very much for sharing this! Ugh, even with a cable modem I still have 22 hours remaining... Oh well. It's a small price to pay to be able to see this!

Downloaded in 11 hours, now seeding. Cheers

Just got to work out how to play it !

Turn Jim wrote: Question about download speeds what is the average download speed? Because I'm averaging only 4 kb/s to 12 kb/s downloading speed. It says 2 days if I'm lucky but I seen it go as long as 12 days. My upload gets to 29 kb/s but download is at 10kb/s at the moment? So my question is, is this normal? I moved my upload speed to only 6 kb/s and it makes no difference, my download wont improve? Do people have there upload turned on? Or are people taking advantage and not sharring? If it doesnt impove by tomorrow and turning my upload down to the lowwest setting of 4kb/s unless somebody can explain to me why It's so low? I seen it go as high as 25 kb/s so I know it can?

Torrents are a little bit tricky to understand in the beginning. I use Azureus, an excellent client and they have some good documentation on their site.

The #1 think you want to do is to make sure that you firewall and router (if you have them) are setup for port forwarding on port 6881. With Azuerus you can check to see if your setup if properly config'd.

Then you want to configure the speeds. I have 512kb (up and download) ADSL, so I set my max download to unlimited (i.e., ~55kB) and my upload to about 10-15kB below max (i.e., 40kB). The higher your upload, the higher your download - often. Though you want to look at the average and not instantaneous values. The speeds can change quite a bit.

Now, if you've downloaded 60% of the torrent and your Share Ratio is at 3.0, then you have some config-problem... ;)

/TLV

Works a treat, A great souviner of Glasto.

Hooray, I'm finally at 50%. On the home stretch now

getting 67kbs D/L speed, just hope the 1 seeder keeps seeding

ORBlivion wrote: getting 67kbs D/L speed, just hope the 1 seeder keeps seeding

Just seen this post so started up Azureus to seed, hope this helps. Good luck

Cheers MANIC... about 12 hours to go, so keep it seedin. i will seed for a few days when done

only one seed

Can someone kindly reseed this? I've been stuck on 61% for a few days now

Should be able to fire the old PC from about 18:00 BST

Cool. I'll leave my PC on in the hope someone reseeds it. I'm off to bed - too much late night cricket. Go Aussies!

looks like its is working. Azureus is telling me 0 seed and 5 peers.

Does that make me the only seed ?

Up speed is about 12.2

Good luck.

Umm, am I the only one who doesn't know what to do with the files once we download them...

A little help please?

Spotnick wrote: Please be patient if this doesn't work, it's my first creation of a torrent, I downloaded several files using it, but sending some is a little different.

I have installed a tracker on NOOL's server, and I have high hopes I'm set ok to share, so please let me know if it works, and it's share this the easiest way.

If it works, it can open the door to more...

http://www.neworderonline.com/Torrents/Shug's%20Glastonbury%20DVD.torrent

Not Found The requested document was not found on this server.

How do you download this? When I click on the link I get the above message! Pleeeeeeeeeeease help!

Well it didn't work for me, the picture was all messed up so I deleted it.

Same issue here. Can someone else place their torrent index file online.

Thanks Dennis R www.factoryrecords.info

Stuck on 82%. Anyone? Please?