You've got love technique

BufferLow wrote:

sparks74 wrote: What a great show!! Thanks for the link, BufferLow!!

No problem, i've forgotten who put it up, but i'm sure it's someone from this site.

Might've been me...

Old Blue wrote:

Might've been me...

So it is Old Blue, this is the first New Order gig i ever downloaded and i love it to this day. Thank you kindly.

I remember them doing Fine TIme on Top of the Pops in 1988... it was definitely live, and Bernard did all the vocals.

DShamen wrote: I remember them doing Fine TIme on Top of the Pops in 1988... it was definitely live, and Bernard did all the vocals.

I saw Hooky do the low end vocals on the Substance tour.

((((e))))

Spotnick wrote: Manuel doesn't have that one in his vault?

*I don't know, I'm not usually as fanatical as him about collecting bootlegs (though he calmed down recently), I just like something once in a while, though I have my fixations... for example getting Umbrellas In The Sun was very important for me, anmd it would be very important now to get the fookin Turin bootleg... By chance would you know anything about it? :D

DShamen wrote: I remember them doing Fine TIme on Top of the Pops in 1988... it was definitely live, and Bernard did all the vocals.

Blimey, never knew they did it on TOTP! Anyone have a video or audio recording of this they can email me???

Cheers,

Andy

Mr Discography wrote:

Blimey, never knew they did it on TOTP! Anyone have a video or audio recording of this they can email me???

Cheers,

Andy

You can see 30 seconds of it on BBC website (real player low quality) but I remember Barney dancing in circles with a red T-shirt.

And Technique for me is their best album (not considering Substance as an album) but back in 88 I hated Fine Time.

ze t wrote: but back in 88 I hated Fine Time.

I think everyone on this site hates it, but me, well, i just love it.

BufferLow wrote:

ze t wrote: but back in 88 I hated Fine Time.

I think everyone on this site hates it, but me, well, i just love it.

I’ve hated back then. I don't hate it now. But in 88 was a bit complicated to like that song. It was very different from the rest of Technique and it was released as a single after TBTHOG and True Fait and there are no resemblances between it.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: To me it looks like Barney is miming to a pre-recorded voice. Could have originally been Barney doing the vocoder thingy.

I aggree with that. What we hear on this live is so close to what we hear on the album. If the voice is really pre-recorded, I think it's stupid to miming over it. We can easily accept this kind of pre-recorded voices.

DShamen wrote: I remember them doing Fine TIme on Top of the Pops in 1988... it was definitely live, and Bernard did all the vocals.

I too have seen this footage. It still looks pre-recorded to me.

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

I too have seen this footage. It still looks pre-recorded to me.

Trust me it is. As i said before in this thread, do you really think Bernard could ever get his voice down that low?

no no no that can't possibly be Barney singing

no no no that can't possibly be Barney singing

BufferLow wrote:

That's Bernards voice slowed down.

For those who missed this the first time he posted, here it is again.BufferLow nailed it. You're listening to Barney's voice slowed down. It's not a vocoder and it's highly doubtful it was done with a pitch shifter. Back in the good 'ol days of widespread analog tape recording, using varispeed on deck yielded these types of results. You play the multitrack back at a faster speed while recording a track, say a vocal track in this instance. When you return the song to normal speed the pitch will be different but still in timem with the rest of the song. This was also a common trick to help a singer hit the appropriate key if he/she was singing flat/sharp or it was slightly out of the singer's range. The robotic sounding vocal pieces are processed with a vocoder.

I haven't listened to the live version but if it sounds close to the album, then it's taped or sampled.

Sound on Sound magazine featured NO shortly after the release of technique, don't know the exact date, but if anyone has a copy of this, (Mine got thrown away years ago, and my heads too fooked to remember it very well), I should think it would answer the question from a very reliable source, ie NO.