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Ness wrote:
DoN wrote: A 6 hour show!!! this is looking like a good one!
Its midweek so people best start planning excuses/holiday for the following day if working, as their will be some serious drinking going on i suspect(just for a change
)
Knowing you, you will take the rest the week off to recover!!
Well everyone needs a bit of recovery time after seeing New Order eh?! :D
as for the subsequent hangover, nurofen here we come 
digitalwaters wrote: I've seen them up close at Hyde and Finsbury Park
I'd like to know how you managed this. I saw them at both venues and the stages there were huge, real festival size. Closer you got to the front you were just looking UP at the band. At the Queen Elizabeth Hall it's a low-stage. You could probably have grabbed Hooky's ankle if he ventured close enough to the front of the stage. The drop in the Royal Festival Hall is about 7ft I think, it's similar in the Queen Elizabeth Hall.
It's the most intimate gig New order have done since the 1980's (I can't think of anything that comes close?) and you could've had a ticket halfway back and didn't bother buying one, that's all there is to it. As you might've seen on another post of mine, they're only doing 20mins on the night now. Another excuse for you not to show really.
digitalwaters wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
digitalwaters wrote: I don't think wanting a ticket at the front makes me a 'moaning TW*T'; if I pay good money I want a good view!
C'mon, digiwaters, you are a bit of a moaning tw&t, aren't you? I for one just don't understand your attitude. You COULD have bought a ticket for a row, say, 15 metres back from the stage but you're now moaning cos you didn't get one 10 metres closer to the stage. Some people here have travelled miles to see New Order and have watched them from different postcodes at some of the bigger gigs. Try going to Glastonbury one year - watching New order from the very front there is FURTHER away than any of the seats available to you when you were whinging on here yesterday arvo. It's not like you even had to travel to this give, you live in London! You're also making it sound like you would've been up in the Gods. You wouldn't have been. There were seats available halfway back when you started posting yesterday arvo. I'm sorry, but I just don't get your moaning whatsoever. You had your chance, you didn't bother buying a ticket. Other people sadly didn't even see this till the venue had Sold Out. I genuinely hope you get a ticket closer to the front but I think just getting 'inside' the venue is the important thing here. I've been to both the QEH and the RFH and it becomes a bit of a free-for-all towards the end.
I love NO, but going to every live gig isn't my aim in life.
I've seen them up close at Hyde and Finsbury Park and i've been to Glasto and Reading (not recently thou') so i'm aware of the views there. My criteria for seeing an NO gig is that a/ It's in London and b/ I can be sure of getting within 20m of them; otherwise I don't think it's worth paying (you say the views were 15m back, but it didn't look that good to me). Yes it's an intimate venue, yes it's a special event, but no, I won't pay to see them live unless it's up close.
I know many people here will go and see them whenever or whatever, which is fine; nothing wrong with it and lots right with it!
I like to be sure that i'm going to get the experience i'm paying for as I don't have money coming out of my ears... If I sound like a whiner fine, that's your opinion, but from my POV, it's just that I have a different threshold for deciding whether or not it's worth going.
I'm sure it will be a great night and I hope you all have a cracking time- it's sure to be something special!
You are surely not that bothered about seeing them else you'd have gone regardless.
Still im sure you will get plenty more chances to see them play live to under 1000 people in an accoustically designed music arena ;)
So crucify me for not knowing the layout and size of the venue!
I was bothered about not seeing them live before I hadn't seen them, but now I've seen them i'm more fussy about bothering to see them live again...
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
digitalwaters wrote: I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
We know. You stalk Dawn Zee as well!
digitalwaters wrote:
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
And the rest of us don't?
You had the chance for a ticket but never bought one - be all and end all, and yer criteria means having to be at the front? Obviously everyone would like to be at the front, but if sitting at the back means getting a ticket, well.
I had to sit up on the Balcony at Liverpool in 2001, but the whole point was that I was there.
I feel more sorry for the others on the site who would have sat on the floor in a puddle wearing a lycra jumpsuit whilst humming rockin all over the world and hitting themselves on the head with a wooden ruler if it meant getting in.
:D
I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for me but...
...DZ won't be there my stalking intelligence tells me...
...so my real reason for not getting a ticket has been rumbled...
digitalwaters wrote: So crucify me for not knowing the layout and size of the venue!
I was bothered about not seeing them live before I hadn't seen them, but now I've seen them i'm more fussy about bothering to see them live again...
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
We've all got lives outside of NO DW. To imply we haven't cos we're going to a gig in our home town is slightly harsh, don't you think ?.
But on another level I kinda know where you're coming from. I turned down a ticket for The White Stripes at Brixton this year cos it was a seat at the back of the venue and I like the atmosphere in the standing area. Thing is I'm not that big a White Stripes fan. Got a couple of their albums, sure and Doorbell's a cracking little tune. But I've never been near their web site and don't eagerly await their next release. Now that's where I don't get it. You're obviously a big NO fan, you come on here all the time and regularly contribute to the forum. So why be so precious over your vantage point ? you could pluck Steve Morris' nasal hair from the back row of this place.
I do feel sorry for the many NOOLers who live overseas or miles from London and would have given their back teeth to see the band in a venue as intimate as this, but clearly can't get to the gig. You turning your nose up at the gig on the grounds you've given will stick in the throat of many I assure you.
It just kinda sounds like, "If I can't have exactly what I want then I'm not going". Spoilt kid syndrome if I'm being honest with you mate.
digitalwaters wrote: So crucify me for not knowing the layout and size of the venue!
I was bothered about not seeing them live before I hadn't seen them, but now I've seen them i'm more fussy about bothering to see them live again...
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
Damn just go there to kill the evening! I'd go there to see NO [and the Fall] if I were a Londoner.
Or tell us what are the exciting things you are going to be busy with at that particular night? 
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digitalwaters wrote: So crucify me for not knowing the layout and size of the venue!
I was bothered about not seeing them live before I hadn't seen them, but now I've seen them i'm more fussy about bothering to see them live again...
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
Damn just go there to kill the evening! I'd go there to see NO [and the Fall] if I were a Londoner.
Or tell us what are the exciting things you are going to be busy with at that particular night?
20mins of NO verses 30mins of Corrie...
Plus theres a five minute break in the middle of corro. so its 20mins of the order against 25mins of corro.
Uncle Liam wrote: Plus theres a five minute break in the middle of corro. so its 20mins of the order against 25mins of corro.
Ah, but with all the footie being on TV we may have an unexpected extra shunted episode of Corry on a day such as this; so it could be 50mins of Corrie verses 20 mins of NO!
It's also Lost day on C4; that's another 45mins of cracking TV....
So that's potentially 95mins of good TV verses 20mins of NO...
Oh, God, i'm going to get so drawn and quartered for this.......
digitalwaters wrote:
Oh, God, i'm going to get so drawn and quartered for this.......
No, you'll probably just get ignored, which would piss you off more, wouldn't it?
oldmonkey wrote: Anyone got two spares? Our guitarist Phil Collins is in Spain and it will have sold out by the time he gets back!
You've got mail
digitalwaters wrote:
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
It seems this "life" of yours involves sitting in front of mindless tv programmes - Coronation Street, Lost, etc.
How very sad
Lunatic Fridge wrote:
digitalwaters wrote:
I know this is heresy, but I do have a life outside of being a NO fan!
It seems this "life" of yours involves sitting in front of mindless tv programmes - Coronation Street, Lost, etc.
How very sad
Coronation street is quite funny actually.
P.S. Try looking up 'humour' and 'sarcasm' in the dictionary...
Atrocity Exhibit wrote: Looks like bein' a bit of a good 'un, predictable setlist or (hopefully) not. Any spare tickets from the 'ardcore, gizza job... I mean a shout. Not been down London town since Pixies with Hibster and Jarvo last summer, so there'll be a bit of catch-up drinking to do.
ello! you doing any of the franz ferdinand dates with editors?
digitalwaters wrote:
Uncle Liam wrote: Plus theres a five minute break in the middle of corro. so its 20mins of the order against 25mins of corro.
Ah, but with all the footie being on TV we may have an unexpected extra shunted episode of Corry on a day such as this; so it could be 50mins of Corrie verses 20 mins of NO!
It's also Lost day on C4; that's another 45mins of cracking TV....
So that's potentially 95mins of good TV verses 20mins of NO...
Oh, God, i'm going to get so drawn and quartered for this.......
hmm 20 mins of new order playinf somewhere really small, never to be repeated in honour of john peel.
or an episode of a soap opera that you could skip for three weeks & miss nothing.
yeah, you're right.
who wants my ticket?
oh & lost - at the end of the episode you'd miss, guess what - they're still on the island!
Barney Army wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: Anyone got two spares? Our guitarist Phil Collins is in Spain and it will have sold out by the time he gets back!
You've got mail
As do you sir
All this reminds me of that Lemonheads song "The Outdoor Type" where he bigs himself up as being this great adventurer, then wimps out at the end "what if something's on TV and it's never shown again".
Suffice to say, there is considerable demand for this event, and to come up with flimsy excuses like being too far back from the front is just pitiable. Even the very back row of this venue will still be a lot nearer, clearer and more generally accessible than the very front row at Hyde Park or Finsbury!
digitalwaters wrote: P.S. Try looking up 'humour' and 'sarcasm' in the dictionary...
The Lunatic is well known for being facetious.
oldmonkey wrote: All this reminds me of that Lemonheads song "The Outdoor Type" where he bigs himself up as being this great adventurer, then wimps out at the end "what if something's on TV and it's never shown again".
Suffice to say, there is considerable demand for this event, and to come up with flimsy excuses like being too far back from the front is just pitiable. Even the very back row of this venue will still be a lot nearer, clearer and more generally accessible than the very front row at Hyde Park or Finsbury!
Who is bigging themselves up? I've not made any grand claims about anything?
All i'm saying is I wanted a ticket in the front rows. If I'm paying good money for 20 mins of The Order and 3 hours of chunder I want the best view, otherwise it's a waste of time and money; in my opinion- which is not everyone else's. I'm sure everyone will have a great time and that it will be a special night, but despite the wonders of a small venue it's not for me- unless i'm in the front rows (repeats ad nauseum).
i'm curious dw.
when you buy your hyde park/ finsbree tickets etc do you get front row reserved tickets or unreserved ones like the rest of us?
just wondering how you could justify getting them, when there's no guarantee you'll be right at the front, that's all.
hibster wrote: i'm curious dw.
when you buy your hyde park/ finsbree tickets etc do you get front row reserved tickets or unreserved ones like the rest of us?
just wondering how you could justify getting them, when there's no guarantee you'll be right at the front, that's all.
The give away is in the title; Finsbury PARK, Hyde PARK; i.e. an open field, meaning you can walk to the front of the field before the gig starts and stay there. It's a cunning bit of genius, please don't share the secret with anyone else!
digitalwaters wrote: The give away is in the title; Finsbury PARK, Hyde PARK; i.e. an open field, meaning you can walk to the front of the field before the gig starts and stay there. It's a cunning bit of genius, please don't share the secret with anyone else!
You're not helping yourself, are you, dw. From memory, at both Hyde Park and Finsbury Park, there was a pit-FULL of security between both you, and the stage, which was a very high stage at that. On the South Bank, they don't have such pits. You can literally walk right up to the stage. Which is very low. It's intimate.
Still, I hope you're gonna join everyone here for an evening soiree on the 12th. Can't not really, can you, seeing as you actually live/work in town!
digitalwaters wrote:
hibster wrote: i'm curious dw.
when you buy your hyde park/ finsbree tickets etc do you get front row reserved tickets or unreserved ones like the rest of us?
just wondering how you could justify getting them, when there's no guarantee you'll be right at the front, that's all.
The give away is in the title; Finsbury PARK, Hyde PARK; i.e. an open field, meaning you can walk to the front of the field before the gig starts and stay there. It's a cunning bit of genius, please don't share the secret with anyone else!
ignoring the semantics of the word title there are going to be lots of people with the same idea. so wouldn't you miss several hours worth of telly, whilst at the same time having to endure several hours of "chunder" (was that what you called it?) to be FURTHER BACK than you would be at this gig?
hang on lads - i think i've cracked it - dw is only three foot tall & so if he isn't right at the front he can't see over anyone.
only logical explanation
Al Jarvis wrote:
digitalwaters wrote: I've seen them up close at Hyde and Finsbury Park
I'd like to know how you managed this. I saw them at both venues and the stages there were huge, real festival size. Closer you got to the front you were just looking UP at the band. At the Queen Elizabeth Hall it's a low-stage. You could probably have grabbed Hooky's ankle if he ventured close enough to the front of the stage. The drop in the Royal Festival Hall is about 7ft I think, it's similar in the Queen Elizabeth Hall.
It's the most intimate gig New order have done since the 1980's (I can't think of anything that comes close?) and you could've had a ticket halfway back and didn't bother buying one, that's all there is to it. As you might've seen on another post of mine, they're only doing 20mins on the night now. Another excuse for you not to show really.
I'm pretty sure I could have grabbed Hooky's ankle for real at the Hammerstein Ballroom ;)
If it's even closer than that one, it's going to be great.
Al Jarvis wrote:
digitalwaters wrote: The give away is in the title; Finsbury PARK, Hyde PARK; i.e. an open field, meaning you can walk to the front of the field before the gig starts and stay there. It's a cunning bit of genius, please don't share the secret with anyone else!
You're not helping yourself, are you, dw. From memory, at both Hyde Park and Finsbury Park, there was a pit-FULL of security between both you, and the stage, which was a very high stage at that. On the South Bank, they don't have such pits. You can literally walk right up to the stage. Which is very low. It's intimate.
Still, I hope you're gonna join everyone here for an evening soiree on the 12th. Can't not really, can you, seeing as you actually live/work in town!
Look:
http://https://www.rfh.org.uk/main/booking/index.html?esroevent=32857
Click on the back rows. Then click on the front rows. Big difference.
All i'm saying is I wanted a ticket in the front rows. If I'm paying good money for 20 mins of The Order and 3 hours of chunder I want the best view, otherwise it's a waste of time and money; in my opinion- which is not everyone else's. I'm sure everyone will have a great time and that it will be a special night, but despite the wonders of a small venue it's not for me- unless i'm in the front rows (repeats ad nauseum).
