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DM Review Has Resonance for NO?

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Often I find the reviewers at Pitchfork to be the worst kind of snooty sonic elitists, but they can strike a fair chord on occasion.

Here's what they have to say about the latest Depeche Mode album. There's a sense of familiarity about it.

First things first: You can count me among that class of people who haven't paid the closest attention to Depeche Mode over the past, umm, decade. I don't imagine this is all that unusual. Sure, the music they've released seems fine enough. But laying claim to our brainspace takes more than that, and each album these guys produced seemed to be slotting them further and further into that place where groups just naturally wind up after a couple decades as a going concern-- the band version of adulthood. Band adulthood is where you've settled into enough of a groove that your core fans know who they are, and everyone else happily ignores your continued existence. Band adulthood is where you make perfectly fine and increasingly subtle and sophisticated new albums, and your members embark on highly touted Significant Solo Projects-- neither of which anyone can really work up any enthusiasm about.Band adulthood means reviews that are a big swirl of stock phrases like "return to form" and "just may be their best since [insert classic here]"; it's a world of die-hard fans politely trying to convince everyone that actually, this new album, it's interesting, you should give it a listen. Band adulthood is a city where R.E.M. and Elvis Costello have offices downtown, and the Cure and New Order keep stopping by open houses in the suburbs. No mistake: people of all sorts still love their Depeche Mode; last year I even got to watch a 19-year-old metalhead dig back and convert. But people want their prime-era DM, not a paler adulthood. Even the titles of the band's last couple releases seemed to know it: after Ultra (!) and Exciter (!), I'm half-surprised they didn't manage to call one No Really, We're Still Worth It.If you've caught any advance word on Playing the Angel, you'll probably have heard the same rumors that swirl around all band-adulthood records: That this is the one, the "return to form." That this isn't just the "best since Violator," but maybe even just as good. That they're about to pull off the same trick Morrissey did-- following the same path as always, and yet somehow getting everyone to sit up again and take notice. (Publicists help.) And while I wish I could take some bold, controversial true/false stance on that one, this album just won't let me. If you really are the sort of person who's been waiting with bated breath for a new Depeche Mode release, then don't worry: You'll love this. Dear everyone else: It's pretty okay.It certainly sounds as good as anything they've done in a while-- and isn't that always the key with these things? Band-adulthood records leave everyone in fear of limp retreads, embarrassingly bombastic attempts to capturing former glory, ill-advised experiments, laughable bandwagon-jumping, or that ultimate horror of classic acts trying to ape the bands they're meant to have influenced. Depeche Mode have long managed to avoid those traps (say, "showing Linkin Park how it's really done"), and on this record they've done even better, hitting on something that feels solid and relevant and natural: a dense, buzzy web of sound that folds in the old arena anthems, the camp noir-gospel of the early 90s, and the polished micro-production of Exciter.

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How did you make the choice of where to put the "continues here," DC?

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I just cut it free where the relevance to NO waned and the nitty gritty of the album tracks kicked in.

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I'd hoped for some darker explanation.

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Like what?

I used candles and a ouija board?

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When faced with an unexplained phenomenon, doesn't one often hope that the explanation will be exotic rather than mundane?

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gezuus fookin kriess, another DM thread. IM outta here.

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what's next? an offspring thread?

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Jonathan wrote: what's next? an offspring thread?

What a ridiculous suggestion, Jonathan.

I don't know what gets into you sometimes.

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I think this thread shows plenty of relevance to New Order. Just about every person I know who loves NO loves DM. Now that's coming from an American, so...

I went out on Tuesday, which is release day in the US, and I was kinda feeling low, so I bought the Deluxe Edition of the new DM album. I will say that, unfortunately, the reviewer pretty much has this one down cold. Some lofty record reviewers dissect the albums waaay to much for it's own good, but a band with a history like DM, this was necessary. The "band adulthood" thing was spot on.

I think DM's new album, is good, 'Precious' is AWESOME, but no one else will give a damn. I'll be surprised if it even gets into the Top 50 on the Billboard 200 (album chart). 'Exciter' went to #8, probably in it's first week, but we'll have to see.

In comparison, the New Order album is better.

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MTO wrote: I think this thread shows plenty of relevance to New Order. Just about every person I know who loves NO loves DM. Now that's coming from an American, so...

I went out on Tuesday, which is release day in the US, and I was kinda feeling low, so I bought the Deluxe Edition of the new DM album. I will say that, unfortunately, the reviewer pretty much has this one down cold. Some lofty record reviewers dissect the albums waaay to much for it's own good, but a band with a history like DM, this was necessary. The "band adulthood" thing was spot on.

I think DM's new album, is good, 'Precious' is AWESOME, but no one else will give a damn. I'll be surprised if it even gets into the Top 50 on the Billboard 200 (album chart). 'Exciter' went to #8, probably in it's first week, but we'll have to see.

In comparison, the New Order album is better.

I didn't get a chance to give him another listening, but from my first listening, it's BORING... Precious is the only noticable track.

Damn it, there is no tempo on that album.. but I'll give it a few other listenings before judging for real.

For me, it's below Exciter right now.

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Spotnick wrote:

MTO wrote: I think this thread shows plenty of relevance to New Order. Just about every person I know who loves NO loves DM. Now that's coming from an American, so...

I went out on Tuesday, which is release day in the US, and I was kinda feeling low, so I bought the Deluxe Edition of the new DM album. I will say that, unfortunately, the reviewer pretty much has this one down cold. Some lofty record reviewers dissect the albums waaay to much for it's own good, but a band with a history like DM, this was necessary. The "band adulthood" thing was spot on.

I think DM's new album, is good, 'Precious' is AWESOME, but no one else will give a damn. I'll be surprised if it even gets into the Top 50 on the Billboard 200 (album chart). 'Exciter' went to #8, probably in it's first week, but we'll have to see.

In comparison, the New Order album is better.

I didn't get a chance to give him another listening, but from my first listening, it's BORING... Precious is the only noticable track.

Damn it, there is no tempo on that album.. but I'll give it a few other listenings before judging for real.

For me, it's below Exciter right now.

i do agree 'precious' is awesome, but i think 'john the revelator' is the best track in the album. i had the chance to listen numerous time, and i must admit its just doesnt quite have it. its like having tofu burger.... wheres the meat....

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Few corkers, plenty of filler

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At the risk of sounding like a facetious fool, I wonder if they even listened to any album of the bands and artists mentioned?

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An interesting read, the concept of 'band adulthood' certainly does have resonance for NO irrespective of how much of a DM fan you may be (there are plenty of DM lovers & loathers here). There would be temptation to interpret this as a sleight against the bands mentioned, but to be honest I think it's reasonably accurate. As the Chargler says, quite out of character from Pitchfork to be so insightful - usually their reviews are so muffled due to the fact that their head is up their own arse. CTB :bear:

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Thanks for your support, CTB.

It wasn't intended as "yet another DM thread", but you can't deny there's similarity between the phasing of the bands careers.

Tend to think it's accurate of NO's situation. As much as we may wince at the notion of 'band adulthood', it's a fact of life. "Don't wanna own a key, don't wanna wash my car", well, I think there are plenty of suds on Hooky's RX-8.

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I agree about the "band adulthood" theory, but I would rather have mature DM and NO than most stillborn pop, R&B/Rap, and country shite that oozes out of any radio in the States!

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