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From the FAQ Here..... http://www.neworderonline.com/Common/Topic.aspx?Topic=FAQ
How tall are the members of New Order/Joy Division?
Bernard Sumner is about 5'8" Peter Hook is about 5'8" Steven Morris is about 5'10" Gillian Gilbert is about 5'4" Ian Curtis was 6'3"
I call bullsh*t....
Jarvis, where did you get that?
(p.s. anyone read the text to the book An Ideal For Living who can comment on the odder portions?)
To be fair, although Spotnick has quoted Jarvo and myself as being the sources of this data, it came from a number of people and the data noted here was subsequently revised a bit. Hooky and Barney aren't 5'8", more like 5'6". Ian was over 6 foot, Deborah told us that much, and looking at some of the photos from early 1979 you can see how much taller he was than the others.
I don't think Ian was 6'3...if he was, he'd be towering over the other members, which if you looked at JD pictures, that's not quite true. I'm thinking Ian was probably about 6 feet tall or so. I know I read on the FAQ here that Barney was 5'8 ish but I've heard other people say that he looks like he's 5'6 ish.
oldmonkey wrote: To be fair, although Spotnick has quoted Jarvo and myself as being the sources of this data, it came from a number of people and the data noted here was subsequently revised a bit. Hooky and Barney aren't 5'8", more like 5'6". Ian was over 6 foot, Deborah told us that much, and looking at some of the photos from early 1979 you can see how much taller he was than the others.
From the picture I've taken for my own use, the one I have with Bernard in my profile, I'm 6'3.5", so Bernard must be around 5'9" or 5'10" to be honest.
Phil Cunningham is probably 6'1", Stephen 6'0" and Hooky is also near 5'10" or 5'9" (not, I'm on the back in this picture, so it might add 1 or 2 inches to them)
There are not that small... Hooky is taller than WenOrder!! maybe we should ask Mike his height.
I've posted on this before. Bernard and Hooky are both 5'8/9 - definitely not 5'6! Phil and Steve are roughly 5'10. I'd say Ian was close to six feet but no more; if he was, he would have dwarfed Barney and Hooky on stage!
Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind ;)
The only person you can really judge is Andy Robinson on the right of the picture as he's also behind.
Spotnick wrote:
Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind ;)
The only person you can really judge is Andy Robinson on the right of the picture as he's also behind.
i dunno Spotnick...you're standing at least 3 feet behind hooky and you seem alot taller. it looks like he is 5'6". How tall is Wenorder?
Spotnick wrote:
oldmonkey wrote: To be fair, although Spotnick has quoted Jarvo and myself as being the sources of this data, it came from a number of people and the data noted here was subsequently revised a bit. Hooky and Barney aren't 5'8", more like 5'6". Ian was over 6 foot, Deborah told us that much, and looking at some of the photos from early 1979 you can see how much taller he was than the others.
From the picture I've taken for my own use, the one I have with Bernard in my profile, I'm 6'3.5", so Bernard must be around 5'9" or 5'10" to be honest.
Phil Cunningham is probably 6'1", Stephen 6'0" and Hooky is also near 5'10" or 5'9" (not, I'm on the back in this picture, so it might add 1 or 2 inches to them)
No way, basically! If Hooky is 5'10", I am Godzilla.
Tarbox23 wrote: I call bullsh*t....
Jarvis, where did you get that?
Er, where did you get the information that I'd said it? I ain't got a clue how tall Curtis is. I just 'know' that Curtis was tall, same way that you do, by reading other people's comments here.
Spotnick wrote: Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind
Nic, you getting confused with metric? 6ft3 makes you taller than me, and I'm sure you ain't taller than me! 
Hooky is fcuking TINY. As is Barney. Check out Ness's avatar. The fact you can see her past Barney's waist proves how small he is!
oldmonkey wrote: To be fair, although Spotnick has quoted Jarvo and myself as being the sources of this data, it came from a number of people and the data noted here was subsequently revised a bit. Hooky and Barney aren't 5'8", more like 5'6". Ian was over 6 foot, Deborah told us that much, and looking at some of the photos from early 1979 you can see how much taller he was than the others.
This ole chestnut AGAIN 
I am 5 7, John is 5 8, in the pictures we have with Barney, he is cleary taller. So Barney's at least 5 9. Hooky probably 5 8? Steve & Phil 5 10?
Jarvo, just about everyone is a small cunt compared with you! 
:D
NObabe wrote: Bollocks Shug, I'm 5.7 and you appear to be shorter than me
You must've been wearing high heels then Maya :p
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind
Nic, you getting confused with metric? 6ft3 makes you taller than me, and I'm sure you ain't taller than me!
Hooky is fcuking TINY. As is Barney. Check out Ness's avatar. The fact you can see her past Barney's waist proves how small he is!
I'm defo 6'3", (1.92m), and yes, you are taller than I am...
In fact, I'm in between 6'3" and 6'4", and no, I'm not confused with metric as I have no clue what my real height is in metric
So I'd check your height if I were you Al ;)
Spotnick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind
Nic, you getting confused with metric? 6ft3 makes you taller than me, and I'm sure you ain't taller than me!
Hooky is fcuking TINY. As is Barney. Check out Ness's avatar. The fact you can see her past Barney's waist proves how small he is!
I'm defo 6'3", (1.92m), and yes, you are taller than I am...
I'm deffo 5'7" (1.70m) Just got an inpartial judge to measure me......not that size counts 
Spotnick wrote: As for Bernard...
Judge for yourself ;)
Looks like Barney is having the time of his life! Did the lager run out?
Dunno what happened there. Anyway....looks like Barney's having the time of his life there. Or did the lager run out?
IC's height? I reckon 6ft max.
Dunno what happened there. Anyway....looks like Barney's having the time of his life there. Or did the lager run out?
IC's height? I reckon 6ft max.
NObabe wrote: Bollocks Shug, I'm 5.7 and you appear to be shorter than me
Shug is shorter than Rangers chances of winning the SPL this season
Are you lot seriously bored or something - pelllease? OK I'm 5'4" - so, that being the case, where would I reach in a kneeling position to say..... erm.........
All I can think of is that Monty Python sketch with the history professors, and basically their importance and authority depended entirely on how tall they were, resulting in many human pyramids and such.
BTW Wino, is that a day's suplly or a week's in yer avatar? :)
DC wrote: Dunno what happened there. Anyway....looks like Barney's having the time of his life there. Or did the lager run out?
IC's height? I reckon 6ft max.
Bernard was on painkillers, on his way to see the doctor for his ankle.. give him a break
Steve Campbell wrote: All I can think of is that Monty Python sketch with the history professors, and basically their importance and authority depended entirely on how tall they were, resulting in many human pyramids and such.
BTW Wino, is that a day's suplly or a week's in yer avatar? :)
3 days supply if weekend or day off or 5-6 days supply during sensible mode. (Which isn't very often). Yesterday was the weekend and now I wish it hadn't been cos I've got the very sensible VAT return to do today. Yippee!
Spotnick wrote:
DC wrote: Dunno what happened there. Anyway....looks like Barney's having the time of his life there. Or did the lager run out?
IC's height? I reckon 6ft max.
Bernard was on painkillers, on his way to see the doctor for his ankle.. give him a break
Bernards allways got something wrong with him, it seems the only thing he hasn't got is hypochondria
He's still a miserable bastard, could be related to doing so many JD songs again.
Jean-Philippe Ravier wrote: I am 1,94 m... that makes ?...
http://www.boatsafe.com/tools/meter.htm
Even tells you in Fathoms, a lot of people here will like that
Spotnick wrote:
Jean-Philippe Ravier wrote: I am 1,94 m... that makes ?...
http://www.boatsafe.com/tools/meter.htm
Even tells you in Fathoms, a lot of people here will like that
So I'm 5.09 then
I really didn't need to get smaller… give me back my 1,55m please !!!
Shug wrote:
Spotnick wrote:
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: Once again, I'm 6'3" (1.92m) and in the back behind Phil and Steve, so make up your own mind
Nic, you getting confused with metric? 6ft3 makes you taller than me, and I'm sure you ain't taller than me!
Hooky is fcuking TINY. As is Barney. Check out Ness's avatar. The fact you can see her past Barney's waist proves how small he is!
I'm defo 6'3", (1.92m), and yes, you are taller than I am...
I'm deffo 5'7" (1.70m) Just got an inpartial judge to measure me......not that size counts
Hmmmm.... The nurse at my health check said I was 6' 4 3/4" and when Shug and I met, his exact words were: 'Christ, you're a f**king big bugger'.
I'm sure I'm more than alot taller than you, Shug, so that would make you... erm... LOTS shorter than me! But then, you have the pics!
Who cares though. I'd love to be shorter...
Spotnick wrote:
Jean-Philippe Ravier wrote: I am 1,94 m... that makes ?...
http://www.boatsafe.com/tools/meter.htm
Even tells you in Fathoms, a lot of people here will like that
does it provide a collective height though ?
I thought Shuglet was the same height as me , I know I'm a bit taller than Ness , bout the height of Jarvo's elbow and ROCKET is tall enough to borrow the oakleys of ma head without me knowing , I think I'm a similar height to One Brain . Few of yer are as rotund , though using the Shug Scale System ( pat pending ) , possibly few are as svelte:\ohwell:
You know.. some men do grow a couple of inches from their early 20s to 25ish. My S.O. was 6'4" when he was 23 and at 28 is 6'6"
Just sayin...
ChrissMari wrote: You know.. some men do grow a couple of inches from their early 20s to 25ish. My S.O. was 6'4" when he was 23 and at 28 is 6'6"
Just sayin...
ya got any data on the 43 to 50 age bracket ?
6'3648294383333335"
That's what I call a precise measure... Anyway Ian C. was a bit smaller than me...
reach for the ground wrote: I thought Shuglet was the same height as me , I know I'm a bit taller than Ness , bout the height of Jarvo's elbow and ROCKET is tall enough to borrow the oakleys of ma head without me knowing , I think I'm a similar height to One Brain . Few of yer are as rotund , though using the Shug Scale System ( pat pending ) , possibly few are as svelte:\ohwell:
I'm pretty sure Jarvo is 6'4"... I dare people to measure him up
He is taller than me, and once again, I did check, and I am 6'3", just like my driver's license says ;)
Spotnick wrote:
Jean-Philippe Ravier wrote: I am 1,94 m... that makes ?...
http://www.boatsafe.com/tools/meter.htm
Even tells you in Fathoms, a lot of people here will like that
Hey Nick this converter isn’t as good as that because it doesn't give the inches in 1/12 but in 1/10 (example: 1,79 m -> 5.90551185 feet !!!, not 5’11” 1/2).
And from what I have heard in the past Ian Curtis was about 1, 92 m (6'3").
Spotnick wrote: I'm pretty sure Jarvo is 6'4"... I dare people to measure him up
Nope, defo only 6ft2. I don't think we stood shoulder to shoulder in the US, Nic, cos you were always complaining about your bloody knee!
There's a few people here much taller than me, who stand a good 6ft4 or more: Biginoil, Nick King, Muffy, Hank Wiseass, Chris Nash, FourFortyFive, DC, Marko ... Conor maybe?
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: I'm pretty sure Jarvo is 6'4"... I dare people to measure him up
Nope, defo only 6ft2. I don't think we stood shoulder to shoulder in the US, Nic, cos you were always complaining about your bloody knee!
There's a few people here much taller than me, who stand a good 6ft4 or more: Biginoil, Nick King, Muffy, Hank Wiseass, Chris Nash, FourFortyFive, DC, Marko ... Conor maybe?
I am 6'4". I have stood next to IC and as I said, he was around 6 feet. I was 17/18, so maybe I was an inch smaller then, but he wasn't my height.
He only looks 6 foot. No taller. he only looks 6 inches taller than Hooky.
I think all this confusion stems from Deborah's (the other DC !!) comment in the book that he was "well over 6 feet tall".
Al Jarvis wrote: Nope, defo only 6ft2. I don't think we stood shoulder to shoulder in the US, Nic, cos you were always complaining about your bloody knee!
Quite possible.. and fortunatly, that damned knee is getting better and better, I had surgery in August 2004, and everything seems to be getting better, so I shouldn't complain next year
I have found another translator
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/duke.traduction/fintrad/conversion.htm
so 1,94 m is 6'36"
reach for the ground wrote:
ChrissMari wrote: You know.. some men do grow a couple of inches from their early 20s to 25ish. My S.O. was 6'4" when he was 23 and at 28 is 6'6"
Just sayin...
ya got any data on the 43 to 50 age bracket ?
;)
IIRC When Ian Curtis was still on this plane of existence the boys were only in their early 20s. Therefore, to compare their height now to pictures of them 20 years ago to get Ian Curtis' height is kind of silly.
We weren't. We were looking at a photo of all four of them stood together in a field in Stockport, behind Strawberry Studios.
You's are all fucking wankers.
It's official, I am a short arse :D
5ft 577....not even 5ft 6? I have always thought 170cm was 5ft 7.
Mr Mac we are indeed about the same height mate, I am still working on the formulaic for the rotund height system of the equation. Keep reading 
It's actually better being shorter as you can fit into decent clothes/shoes, are able to sit in cars/public transport without complaining about legroom, and are less likely to complain about back pains!
I envy the lot of ya (being about 6'4")! :)
Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
Shug wrote: You's are all fucking wankers.
It's official, I am a short arse :D
5ft 577....not even 5ft 6? I have always thought 170cm was 5ft 7.
Mr Mac we are indeed about the same height mate, I am still working on the formulaic for the rotund height system of the equation. Keep reading
You'll be telling us you're English next!
Bere wrote: Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
I'm taller than you
ChrissMari wrote:
Bere wrote: Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
I'm taller than you
Then don't wear high heels if we should ever meet... My "here" was pointing out to my location....
ChrissMari wrote:
Bere wrote: Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
I'm taller than you
same here: 5'9". but i always wear shoes with chunky soles to make myself even taller; don't know why.
Bere wrote:
ChrissMari wrote:
Bere wrote: Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
I'm taller than you
Then don't wear high heels if we should ever meet... My "here" was pointing out to my location....
I know :)
One thing I noticed is that here (in the US) I'm not taller than most guys.. a lot but not most. However, when I was living in the UK, it was a treat to find a guy taller than I am. I found the same when going over to Europe on trips as well.
:'(
Al Jarvis wrote:
Spotnick wrote: I'm pretty sure Jarvo is 6'4"... I dare people to measure him up
Nope, defo only 6ft2. I don't think we stood shoulder to shoulder in the US, Nic, cos you were always complaining about your bloody knee!
There's a few people here much taller than me, who stand a good 6ft4 or more: Biginoil, Nick King, Muffy, Hank Wiseass, Chris Nash, FourFortyFive, DC, Marko ... Conor maybe?
Think I'm about the same height as you, 6'2". Muffy's definitely taller than me.
ChrissMari wrote:
Bere wrote:
ChrissMari wrote:
Bere wrote: Well there are not many women being taller than me, around here. I always feel some kind of uncomfortable if some girl can look down on me...
I'm taller than you
Then don't wear high heels if we should ever meet... My "here" was pointing out to my location....
I know :)
One thing I noticed is that here (in the US) I'm not taller than most guys.. a lot but not most. However, when I was living in the UK, it was a treat to find a guy taller than I am. I found the same when going over to Europe on trips as well.
:'(
how tall are you?
i've found the opposite with men. when i lived in the UK i had no trouble finding men taller than me (my boyfriends were 6' and 6'2", respectively, although i did briefly date a guy who was 5'7"). here i find men are usually shorter than me.
Shug wrote: You's are all fucking wankers.
It's official, I am a short arse :D
5ft 577....not even 5ft 6? I have always thought 170cm was 5ft 7.
Mr Mac we are indeed about the same height mate, I am still working on the formulaic for the rotund height system of the equation. Keep reading
So I may be a slim fella ?
Apparently being of shorter stature is handy for sneakin to the front of the queue in bars and gettin a 'round in .....
you an Ourkid gonna try it Shuglet ?
:D
I have to say this is a great fucking thread!
I haven't laughed this much in ages. "I'm fucking taller than you...if hooky is 5'10" i am godzilla..... ness is above barney's waist....."
Hysterical! Bunch of fucking kids!!
:bag:
By the way, I'm 149 cm tall, or 4 feet 10 and a half...
I'm 18 and my height stopped when I was 12.
