What does Barney sing best?

What songs do you think the Barnster sings best? Slowies like Run Wild, All Day Long etc.. or the rockier numbers, TBTHOG, Crystal, RTS ??

Looking back on the stuff he made with Electronic it seems less harder than some NO suggesting that perhaps he prefers to sing in a bit more of a restrained manner when left to his own devices so to speak. And Atmosphere which is a tricky one at the best of times let alone the fact that Ian Curtis shrouded his vocals in angst and despair was taken on magnificently by Barney i thought (whoops aside ;) )

I find it most annoying when friends of mine who arent avid NO fans critise him for having a weak voice and not being able to cut it live :\pissedoff:

I couldnt agree LESS!! :)

All I can say is I'm glad that I haven't got mates like that! Are they Beatles fans?

Ceremony's my choice (although I'm big into JD, I think Barny does a much better job than Curtis did.)

Haha!! one of em is a Beatles fan as it goes!! He's also a bit Smiths fan and was most put out when Barney collaborated with Johhny, apparently theres some history of rivalry between Smiths and NewOrder fans - although i'd never been aware of it!

Gotta agree with you on Ceremony!! - superbly sung, and made to sound so fresh that a lot of people forget it was recorded in the JD era :)

What a question - Barney sings like an angel on run wild and the other slowies but you need a bit of variety and he surely CAN cut it on the rockier ones - sometimes feel he needs to cut down on the amount of howling and whooping though - be fair Barney you are a talented boy musically you don't need to try to be a cowboy to impress us... bless him :happytongue:

Always prefered his voice in the dancier numbers - like many of technique, stuff like OUt of COntrol as well, where his voice seems to 'sit' on top, slightly detached from the instruments.

I've also noticed how many club remixes of NO keep Barney's voice in the mix, where normally remixes of chart acts tend to cut out the vocal altogether...homage to the Barnster I'd say.

Thats true Seb vocals are often kept in NO remixes which is a good thing as it means that there versatile enough to cut it on a dancefloor!!

Better get my thoughts on the rapping on feel everybeat out of the way right now...

Great Singing:

True Faith (the "in a world thats so demanding" bit is brilliant...) Regret All The Way Run Wild Love Less Sunrise

Bad Singing:

Subculture Rock The Shack (chorus is a real killer) Slow Jam Everything live until 1993 Elegia

Originally posted by Major Tarantino Great Singing:True Faith (the "in a world thats so demanding" bit is brilliant...)RegretAll The WayRun WildLove LessSunriseBad Singing:SubcultureRock The Shack (chorus is a real killer)Slow JamEverything live until 1993Elegia

HAHA!! wot about Avalanche, and Soviet ;)

C'mon the singing on Brixton Acadamy 87 video is totally class!!!

Originally posted by I D > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> Great Singing:> > True Faith (the "in a world thats so demanding" bit is brilliant...)> Regret> All The Way> Run Wild> Love Less> Sunrise> > Bad Singing:> > Subculture> Rock The Shack (chorus is a real killer)> Slow Jam> Everything live until 1993> Elegia> > > > >

HAHA!! wot about Avalanche, and Soviet ;)

C'mon the singing on Brixton Acadamy 87 video is totally class!!!

Yeah, until Hooky gets on the mic. Thank god they cut it up with that interview... in fact, i think that they did that on purpose.

Originally posted by Major Tarantino > Originally posted by I D> > > > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > Great Singing:> > > > True Faith (the "in a world thats so demanding" bit is brilliant...)> > Regret> > All The Way> > Run Wild> > Love Less> > Sunrise> > > > Bad Singing:> > > > Subculture> > Rock The Shack (chorus is a real killer)> > Slow Jam> > Everything live until 1993> > Elegia> > > > > > > > > > >

HAHA!! wot about Avalanche, and Soviet ;)

C'mon the singing on Brixton Acadamy 87 video is totally class!!!

Yeah, until Hooky gets on the mic. Thank god they cut it up with that interview... in fact, i think that they did that on purpose.

Oh on Dreams never end.. i know its a bugger right in the middle of the tape as well... cue fast forward!!!

The temptation reprise at the end is a bit pointless as well...

Originally posted by I D > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > > > Originally posted by I D> > > > > > > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > > Great Singing:> > > > > > True Faith (the "in a world thats so demanding" bit is brilliant...)> > > Regret> > > All The Way> > > Run Wild> > > Love Less> > > Sunrise> > > > > > Bad Singing:> > > > > > Subculture> > > Rock The Shack (chorus is a real killer)> > > Slow Jam> > > Everything live until 1993> > > Elegia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

HAHA!! wot about Avalanche, and Soviet ;)

C'mon the singing on Brixton Acadamy 87 video is totally class!!!

Yeah, until Hooky gets on the mic. Thank god they cut it up with that interview... in fact, i think that they did that on purpose.

Oh on Dreams never end.. i know its a bugger right in the middle of the tape as well... cue fast forward!!!

The temptation reprise at the end is a bit pointless as well...

dreams never end - great on record, but live...

I like the fact that Barney whoops an yelps and whoo hooo's or whatever you want to call whatever he does ... It seems pretty sincere when he does it ... Means he's having a good time and getting into the music ...

I remember a quote from the bass player of At the Drive In where he says that the band don't play their songs perfectly live ... He went on to say 'if you want to see perfection, go see NSync ... If you want to see heart and soul, then see a rock band' ...

I've recently been listening to Electronic's "Twisted Tenderness" quite a bit, and that features some of Barney's best vocal work...almost as if they took the time to do a second vocal take if the first was out of tune! But seriously folks, our man on the mic really seemed to be making an effort to singon that record.

I was very distressed, however, to hear artifacts of the diabolical Antares Auto-Tune software on that record. (That's the audio plug in that, turned up too high, gives you that Cher "Believe"/Daft Punk effect.) We love you Bernard, in or out of tune. Whoop!

Twisted Tenderness and, hmmmm...Regret.

great vocals on BM, PK, and (even though it's a little off) the original Confusion :D

My favorite vocals are on 1963, Regret and Face Up.

any moderate tempo song or ballad works really well for bernard. um, there's too many to name, so ceremony, temptation, true faith and 1963. there are songs when he sounds out of tune cuz he's pushing the limits of his voice. perfect kiss would be a good example (but i love the instrumentation on that song!)

Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > > dreams never end - great on record, but live...

Eh? I'd always say Dreams Never End was right up there with the very best of New Order's live stuff. Absolutely soooperb song live, infinitely better than the original record, or Peel version. What a crowd pleaser!

So, when exactly did a 21 year old see such a song live?! Bar a Brixton bassline, of course? Hmmmm.

You don't have to be an old has been to like New Order!

Hooky can't sing, I rest my case.

Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Major Tarantino> > > dreams never end - great on record, but live...

Eh? I'd always say Dreams Never End was right up there with the very best of New Order's live stuff. Absolutely soooperb song live, infinitely better than the original record, or Peel version. What a crowd pleaser!

So, when exactly did a 21 year old see such a song live?! Bar a Brixton bassline, of course? Hmmmm.

The song that never quite finishes.......or starts ! The premature ejaculation of New Order, the song that should have been great but doesn't go anywhere after the opening 30 seconds. Hooky can't sing. End of story. Doubts even here still.....fookin' good instrumental though !

Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got grey eyes Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got grey eyes

True Faith Regret World 1963 Getting Away With It

I must also agree with comments made about Dreams Never End sounding great live. Watching Hooky sing it with such power on various videos sends shivers down my spine.

i tend to enjoy bernard's voice most on their earliest material, especially chosen time, the him (with hooky singing an octave below), procession, mesh, ceremony

about the incessant(sp?) whooping: i have a video of NO performing in 1981. bernard is absolutely stone-faced and tranced out during the performance, and appears to be in a a dark mood. but still, he whoops. ie during everythings gone green (of course), truth, and temptation. actually, truth is vastly improved by the well-timed "whoop," right before the guitar kicks in. i think that the whooping is just a part of new order.

i disagree with the statement that hook cant sing. everyone in that band, including steve and gillian, have really cool voices. i think they should trade off vocals, like sonic youth. in live joy division recordings, sometimes the vocals suddenly become incredibly loud and overpowering during certain parts. sometimes, ian was just going off, but a lot of the time, it was hooky, singing his balls off behind ian.

Elegia

Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe Elegia

Sorry mate, that joke's been done!

Yes, by me, but even the best comics use old material again !

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Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd > Originally posted by April> Oh, you've got green eyes> Oh, you've got blue eyes> Oh, you've got grey eyes> Oh, you've got green eyes> Oh, you've got blue eyes> Oh, you've got grey eyes> >

yes...this probably is his crowning moment...in my honest opinion...even if I did call him a porker earlier...I shall sod off now! Temptations riddled with exquisite singing and even better than the green eyes, blue eyes bit which in iteself is sublime, is the.... oh its the last time, oh its the last time oh its the last fookin time! bit when he sings it live!!

Originally posted by IntaDon > Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd> > > > Originally posted by April> > Oh, you've got green eyes> > Oh, you've got blue eyes> > Oh, you've got grey eyes> > Oh, you've got green eyes> > Oh, you've got blue eyes> > Oh, you've got grey eyes> > > > >

yes...this probably is his crowning moment...in my honest opinion...even if I did call him a porker earlier...I shall sod off now! Temptations riddled with exquisite singing and even better than the green eyes, blue eyes bit which in iteself is sublime, is the.... oh its the last time, oh its the last time oh its the last fookin time! bit when he sings it live!!

I do agree with you there, the lyrics I posted were mainly for good memories..

Originally posted by April > Originally posted by IntaDon> > > > Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd> > > > > > > Originally posted by April> > > Oh, you've got green eyes> > > Oh, you've got blue eyes> > > Oh, you've got grey eyes> > > Oh, you've got green eyes> > > Oh, you've got blue eyes> > > Oh, you've got grey eyes> > > > > > > > >

yes...this probably is his crowning moment...in my honest opinion...even if I did call him a porker earlier...I shall sod off now! Temptations riddled with exquisite singing and even better than the green eyes, blue eyes bit which in iteself is sublime, is the.... oh its the last time, oh its the last time oh its the last fookin time! bit when he sings it live!!

I do agree with you there, the lyrics I posted were mainly for good memories..

Hey April, its all good!! :) in fact its ALWAYS all good when discussing Temptation

Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Major Tarantino like it Allen

Originally posted by Allen Jarvis > Originally posted by Major TarantinoOh no! I'm going to live longer.... help! ;)